Yes, this one I know. Mary and James were my great grandparents in Carmi..Their daughter Lizzie married my grandfather, James Land. Thanks for all the responses.

Thanks. I have not done much on that line of the family. I was given a short ancestry from White Co. on those Rice's. I haven't yet dove into it. I've been concentrating my efforts on my Wilson line. Thanks. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeeandBop31@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Roll Call: RICE, STERLING, GOSSETT (SEE LIST) > Janean, > Yes, I know those Rices, but they are not of my group; if so, it was probably > way back there in England or Wales. They always seemed to turn up in some of > the same places as my Rices, and I have chuckled at times thinking they might > have thought they were related to each other. My Rices came from England (of > Welsh descent) in 1638, and settled in Massachusetts. The first I know of > your Rices was is Virginia. I think one or two of that group (Jonathan, for > one) lived in Maury Co., TN, and some might have lived in Davidson Co. Then > your group went to western Kentucky before going to Illinois. Some of yours > lived very, very close to mine in White Co. I believe some mingled in Saline > or Gallatin - don't remember which. If you write Christine Rice, 400 Emerald > Lane, Carbondale, IL. I do not know for sure she still lives there as I > haven't corresponded with her for a number of years. You might check out the > address in the net white pages. I also do not know how old she is. She may > no longer do anything in genealogy. > > Let me know if she is not available to help you, and I will see what I can > find to help you. Everything I have came from her, and I know she has much > more than I have. > Shirley Malone Fritsche > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Mary E EVELETH married James HOLDERBY 16 Oct 1866 White Co Illinois. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Onefergy@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] (no subject) > just finished checking the Roll call info from Bee Bop and so wanted to ask > again if any one else can identify this Eveleth that she has. Feel because > the name is so uncommon that Sylvester and family of White Co must be related > to Ruth Henrietta Eveleth of Mass. who married Ebenzer Rice---family then in > TN and then some on to IL. And did fine connections to some of the Rice > family too. Feel everyone in White Co are related...what fun. > > Marian Land Ferguson > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Janean, Yes, I know those Rices, but they are not of my group; if so, it was probably way back there in England or Wales. They always seemed to turn up in some of the same places as my Rices, and I have chuckled at times thinking they might have thought they were related to each other. My Rices came from England (of Welsh descent) in 1638, and settled in Massachusetts. The first I know of your Rices was is Virginia. I think one or two of that group (Jonathan, for one) lived in Maury Co., TN, and some might have lived in Davidson Co. Then your group went to western Kentucky before going to Illinois. Some of yours lived very, very close to mine in White Co. I believe some mingled in Saline or Gallatin - don't remember which. If you write Christine Rice, 400 Emerald Lane, Carbondale, IL. I do not know for sure she still lives there as I haven't corresponded with her for a number of years. You might check out the address in the net white pages. I also do not know how old she is. She may no longer do anything in genealogy. Let me know if she is not available to help you, and I will see what I can find to help you. Everything I have came from her, and I know she has much more than I have. Shirley Malone Fritsche

just finished checking the Roll call info from Bee Bop and so wanted to ask again if any one else can identify this Eveleth that she has. Feel because the name is so uncommon that Sylvester and family of White Co must be related to Ruth Henrietta Eveleth of Mass. who married Ebenzer Rice---family then in TN and then some on to IL. And did fine connections to some of the Rice family too. Feel everyone in White Co are related...what fun. Marian Land Ferguson

FWIW: There is a Martha Eveleth, 20 yr. old schoolteacher, in Carmi, White Co., in 1870. She was b. IL, and is living in a house with another woman, a 35-yr. old milliner. --- Onefergy@aol.com wrote: > just finished checking the Roll call info from > Bee Bop and so wanted to ask > again if any one else can identify this Eveleth > that she has. Feel because > the name is so uncommon that Sylvester and > family of White Co must be related > to Ruth Henrietta Eveleth of Mass. who married > Ebenzer Rice---family then in > TN and then some on to IL. And did fine > connections to some of the Rice > family too. Feel everyone in White Co are > related...what fun. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

FYI (no relation): I found the following books on Heritage Quest with references to the name Eveleth. Sylvester was a very popular name among them, possibly the founder of the family in America. ----------------------- Jones, William Preble, Four Boston grandparents: Jones and Hill, Preble and Eveleth, and their ancestry. Somerville, Mass., 1930 Names author's maternal grandparents as Sarah Bartlett Eveleth, b May 29, 1817, and Nathaniel Coit Allen Preble, both of New Gloucester, ME (once part of MA). Names Sylvester Eveleth, first baker in Boston; Joseph Eveleth, the Centenarian; Nathaniel the New Gloucester pioneer; Perkins Eveleth (Sarah B.'s father), mentions a letter written by Chas. H. Eveleth in 1929, etc. The ame was once spelled Eveleigh and more anciently, Yeverleigh. ------------------------- Mears, Neal F. A history of the Heverly family : including the spellings Hever, Heverle, Heverley, Everle, Everley, Everleigh, Eveleigh, Evelegh, Eveley, Everly, and Eveleth. Chicago, Ill.: unknown, 1945 This book suggests other spellings of the name. Names Charles Nicholas Eveleigh and George Wyatt Eveleigh as in VA or possibly MD early on. Mentions record of Isaac Eveleth in SC in 1697/8 and names a Samuel or Samuel Henry Eveleigh, b ca 1745. A Charles Eveleigh is said to have participated in the rebellion against King Charles I. Also mentionsa Sylvester Eveleigh. ------------------------ Leonard, Clarence Ettienne, The Fulton-Hayden-Warner ancestry in America. New York: T.A. Wright, 1923 This one nams a Sylvester Eveleth and wife Susannah, son? Joseph, grandson? James, and a Sarah, b. 1765 in CT,and another Sarah b. 1732 in Iswich, MA, among others, including a Sylvester, b. England, d. 1689 in Gloucester, MA. ------------------------ This goes on for 267 (!) books, including one that mentions a town named Eveleth, MN. --- Onefergy@aol.com wrote: > just finished checking the Roll call info from > Bee Bop and so wanted to ask > again if any one else can identify this Eveleth > that she has. Feel because > the name is so uncommon that Sylvester and > family of White Co must be related > to Ruth Henrietta Eveleth of Mass. who married > Ebenzer Rice---family then in > TN and then some on to IL. And did fine > connections to some of the Rice > family too. Feel everyone in White Co are > related...what fun. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Darlene, Cindy, List Members, Before you put your White County Cemetery books away, would you please look for my gr gr grandfather? His name is HARRISON HUTCHCRAFT (SR). born 1815/16 KY/IL. and died 6 Nov. 1864* in Carmi, White Co. IL. Thank you for any information. Evalyn * information taken from the HUTCHCRAFTS IN AMERICA Book by Edna Hutchcraft Welling. -

My great-great grandmother was Callia T. Rice b.1810 Thompson Co. Ky. Married Rawleigh Chinn Wilson of Loudoun Co. Va. Callia's parents were James Harvey Rice and Ann I. (unknown) Rice. James Harvey died in Mercer Co. Ky, but his wife, Ann must have come to White co to be with her daughter Callia and her husband Rawleigh and/or other siblings of Callia. Callia d. 1873 in Carmi, White Co. It is thought that she is named for the Rev. David Rice's daughter Challia Rice Trotter who married John Trotter. Any one know these names? Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeeandBop31@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Roll Call: RICE, STERLING, GOSSETT (SEE LIST) > i'm running late for the roll call, but I started on this and couldn't find a > stopping point. I do not research ALL of these names (wouldn't that be > something!), as many are tangential to my main Rice line. > > These are the names included in the following family information: > > ALLEN, ANDERSON, BALDRIDGE, BARNETT, BATZ, BEATTY, BLACK, BROUGHER, BROWN, > CRAIG, DARLEY, ENDSLEY, EVELETH, GHOLSON, GILHAM, GOSSETT, GROVES, HART, > HAWKINS, HEALY HENDRIX, JOHNSON, JOHNSTON, MASON, MA(Y)SON, McGILLIARD, > MILLS, MILLER, MOORE, MORRIS, NELSON, ORR, PEARCE, RICE, RILEY, SIGLER, > STEELE, STERLING, STEVENSON, STUART, SUMMERS, SYKES, TALIAFERRO, TAYNTOR, > UPTON, VARNEY, VEATCH, WALLACE, WALTERS, WARNER, WELSH, wILLIAMS > > WILLIAM HENRY RICE > born 31 Dec 1851 White Co., IL > died 17 Jun 1942, Enfield, White Co., IL; > married 5 Jan 1876 in Sacramento, White Co., IL, to > > MARY JANE STERLING > born 11 Jan 1856 Sacramento, White Co., IL > died 4 Sep 1918 Enfield, White Co., IL > dau of THOMAS STERLING and REBECCA J. ENDSLEY > > Children of WILLIAM HENRY RICE and MARY JANE STERLING > 1. BERTIE ENDSLEY RICE, died in infancy > 2. EFFA IRENE RICE married CHARLES WILLIAMS > 3. EDWIN LOREN RICE, died young > 4. WILLIAM THOMAS RICE married EDNA MASON > 5. MARTHA REBECCA RICE married CLARENCE JAMES MALONE > 6. JOHN HENRY RICE married #1, JENNIE MILLS; > #2 JENNIE (BROUGHER) UPTON, widow of CLARENCE UPTON > 7. CARRIE STERLING RICE married CHALMUS ELI ALLEN > 8. MARY HELEN RICE, died at age of 3 from swallowing a brass button. > 9. RAYMOND TALMAGE RICE married FRANCES ALLENE DARLEY > 10. ARTHUR LINCOLN RICE married RUBY LEE STUART > > > THOMAS STERLING, born 29 May 1822, Knox Co., TN; > died 3 May 1862, Sacramento, White Co., IL of disease > contracted in the Union Army during Civil War. He had been > stationed in Memphis, TN, with WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE (see below) > during a measles outbreak. > Son of JOHN PATTERSON STERLING, SR., and SARAH ("Sallie") ANDERSON; > THOMAS STERLING married 11 Dec 1845 in Blount Co., TN, to > > REBECCA J. ENDSLEY, born 29 June 1825 in NC > died 4 July 1901, Sacramento, White Co., IL. > dau of JAMES ENDSLEY and SARAH McGILLIARD > She married 2nd to > > JOHN SIGLER on 6 Oct 1864 in White Co., IL. > he was born 2 Nov 1809 in KY, and > died 28 Dec 1902 > He had been married to ISABELLA W. BLACK who > died in Hamilton Co., IL, after the 1860 census. > Children of John and Rebecca were > > 1. MARGARET ("Maggie") SIGLER > who married JOHN GROVES and moved to Cottage Grove, OR; > 2. FRANCES ("Frank") SIGLER > who married WILBUR NELSON > Their son, CLYDE NELSON married NELLIE MAE WALLACE > Their son, DOYLE FRANCIS NELSON married > LOUELLA NORRINE BEATTY > Their children are DAVID FRANCIS NELSON AND > LESLIE DIANE NELSON > > WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE, father of WILLIAM HENRY RICE (above), > was born 26 May 1826, Stokes Station (no longer exists, but was located > between Carmi and Norris City), White Co., IL; > he died of measles during the Civil War, 7 Mar 1863 at Baptist Church > Hospital > (a church taken over by the Union Army to serve as a hospital) > in Memphis, TN. He was scheduled to rejoin his unit the next day, but > he got up during the night to get a drink of water for another ill soldier, > collapsed and died. In 1856, William and his brother ALLAN RICE had > built the Saline Salt Works in Equality, IL. They ran the salt works for > 2 or 3 years and then sold it. > On 5 Mar 1847, in White Co., IL, WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE married > > MARTHA ANN GOSSETT, born 17 Mar 1826, Sumner Co., TN. > she died 26 Aug 1901, White Co., IL; > Martha did not remarry. Her eleven year-old son, WILLIAM HENRY RICE, > did the farm work and MARTHA ANN did very fine needlework (which ruined > her vision) to support her five surviving children. > dau of ABRAM GOSSETT and REBECCA BATZ > > ABRAM GOSSETT, born 1791 Montgomery Co., TN, and > REBECCA BATZ. Rebecca died while Martha Ann was young, and Abram > married 2nd, MARTHA WALTERS. > > WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE'S father was > ABEL RICE, born 5 Sep 1792 in Tinmouth, VT; > died 18 Feb 1846, White Co., IL (gravestone was transcribed in a White Co. > > cemetery book as "March" for the month of death) > he was married 11 Oct 1815/16, in Maury Co., TN to > > LYDIA GHOLSON, born 15 Jun 1792, prob. Woodford Co., KY; > died 1 July 1850 White Co., IL. > dau of FRANCIS GHOLSON and MARY ("Polly") CRAIG. > MARY, her mother, was the dau of TOLIVER CRAIG, JR. and > ELIZABETH JOHNSTON, and her grandparents were > TALIAFERRO ("TOLIVER") CRAIG, SR.(son of JOHN CRAIG > and JANE TALIAFERRO) and MARY ("Polly") HAWKINS, the > heroine of Bryan's Station, KY.. > > ABEL and LYDIA (GHOLSON) RICE'S children were the following: > 1. TOLIVER GHOLSON RICE - married #1, ELIZABETH MILLER > and married #2, NANCY (STEVENSON) HENDRIX. > 2. ELIZA R. RICE - married WILLIAM JOHNSON > 3. HULDA A. RICE - married ABEL VARNEY, JR. > 4. MARTHA M. ("Patsy") RICE - married NATHAN T. HART > 5. SARAH M. RICE - married JOHN M. VEATCH > 6. ALLEN M. RICE - married SUSANNAH M. PEARCE > 7. WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE married MARTHA A. GOSSETT (above) > 8. HENRY C. RICE - married ARLETTA M. HEALY > 9. ELIZABETH J. RICE - married RICHARD M. JOHNSON > 10. MARY ANN RICE - married REV. JAMES L. RILEY > 11. JOEL RICE - married CHARLOTTE L. HEALY > ABEL RICE was the son of EBENEZER RICE AND RUTH HENRIETTA EVELETH. > > EBENEZER RICE was born 12 Mar 1756, Shrewsbury, Mass. > died Oct 1831 in Maury Co., TN, where he had gone as > a missionary to the Chickasaw Indians before 1810. > He married #1, SARAH TAYNTOR, (1756-1790) on 20 Sep 1780 in Mass. > He married #2, RUTH HENRIETTA EVELETH, of Stow, MA , on > 18 Dec 1791. > > EBENEZER RICE'S children: > 1. ROWLAND RICE md. PHERABA WARNER (he died in War of 1812)] > 2. EBENEZER RICE, JR. md. CATHARINE ("Caty") BALDRIDGE and > settled in Scott Co., IL > 3. SARAH ("Sally") RICE md. JAMES MA(Y)SON > 4. FLAVEL (died young) > 5. ABEL RICE (see in text above) > 6. MARTHA ("Patsy") RICE md. #1, ALLEN FLOYD MOORE > md. #2, MOSES PEARCE > 7. JOEL RICE md. #1, MARY HARRIET BROWN > md. #2, MARIA C. (wALLACE) MILLER > > JOEL RICE'S children (all born in White Co., IL) > 1. ARCHIBALD B. RICE md. #1, NANCY MILLER > #2, MARY ELIABETH MILLER > #3, MAHALA _________ > 2. HARRIET RICE md. MARK MILLER > 3. ABEL H. RICE, died in 1851 at age 23, still unmarried in 1850 census. > 4. MARY JANE RICE md. ALFRED B. ORR (who was first married to > Mary Jane's sister NANCY JANE RICE > 5. NANCY JANE RICE was first wife of ALFRED B. ORR > 6. TOLIVER RICE md. ELENOR STEELE > 7. LOUISA PARTHENA RICE md. #1, ALEX M. MILLER > md. #2, PETER CALVIN MILLER > 8. BERTHA C. RICE died young; born 1842 - not in 1850 census > 9. CHARLES RICE, born 1843; died when? > 10. JOEL RICE, JR., born 1845; not in 1850 census > 11. MARY ADELINE RICE md. SNOWDEN VEATCH > 12. MARIAH ISABELLE RICE md. RYDERAS CLARK GILHAM > 13 CHARLOTTE TABITHA RICE, md. #1 ____?____ SYKES > md. #2 WILLIAM M. ORR > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Please add my Great Grandmothers Obit to your web site. Her daughter, Alpha Jane Van Bibber was my grandmother. This appeared in The Norris City News dated October 18, 1945. "Aunt Jane" Edwards Succumbs to Lengthy Illness "Aunt Jane" Edwards, 92 one of the oldest residents of Norris City passed away at six o'clock Wednesday morning at her home in this city. She had been confined to bed for the past few years and death is attributed to infirmities of age. Melissa Jane, daughter of James and Sarah Ann Buttrey born one of seven children, only one of whom she survives her. The only member of the Buttrey family now living is Mrs William (Mary G.) Forrester of Eldorado. The first marriage to John Forrester, who preceded her in death. She later married Leonard Edwards on April 1, 1875, she also died. "Aunt Jane" joined the Mt. Oval Cumberland Presbyterian church as soon as the building was completed, about 75 years ago, transferring her membership to the Norris City church about 30 years ago, when she and Mr. Edwards moved to Norris City. Four of her eight children survive. They are: Sarah Catlin. who lived with her mother and cared for her for the past several years; Mrs Alpha Van Biber (Van Bibber), who lives in California; Will Forrester of Oregon, and Charles Forrester of Pine Bluff, Arkansas, who is bed fast. At press time funeral arrangements were not completed. The Turner Funeral Home is preparing the body for burial.

Hi Bee and Bop, Looks like a different set of Morris people although they were fairly near neighbors. Ernie

I am also running late for roll call. Sorry. RUSSELL, WARD, BRASHER, PARTON

Ernie, I'm sorry I forgot to put my name on my roll call answer regarding my Rice family. I remembered that I hadn't done it about two seconds after I hit the send key, of course. So, If your question was directed to me regarding the Morris connection to the Rice family, here is the little I know. Sylvester Higgins Morris (called "Higg") married Charlotte Florence Rice (called "Florrie") on 30 Sep 1880. He was from Norris City, born Nov 1859, and died 5 Aug 1937, in Norris City. He was the son of William L. (or was that an S.?) Morris and Mary E. Douglas. Higg and Florrie had the following children: 1. Eglon E. (July 1881 - 19 Mar 1902) md. James H. Pearce, son of W. W. Pearce and Alice Bennett. Eglon and James moved to Washington (state). 2. Clarinda H. ("Rena") (Oct 1883 - ?) md. Logan Farmer of Gossett, IL, son of Charles T. Farmer and Louisa J. Green. Rena and Logan moved to Eddyville, IL. 3. Nellie T. (13 Sep 1886 - 4 Mar 1977) md. Pinkus Edward Farmer (brother of Logan, above), born in KY. 4. Arthur S. (21 Oct 1889 - 19 Aug 1955) md. ___?___ Brook. They resided in Detroit, MI, and then moved to Dixon, IL Two children: Norwood Morris and Elizabeth Morris. 5. Grace May (Nov 1891 - ?) md. Hugh L. Barger, son of Anderson Barger and ___?___ Weadman. 6. Verla M. (18 Jul 1894 - 25 Oct 1938) md. Jesse McMurtry of Gossett, IL; son of Alvin McMurtry and Rachel Hollister. 7. Mary Letha (9 Dec 1896, Norris City - 29 Jan 1967, Dixon, IL) md. Andrew Johnson, 11 Aug 19129, Akron, OH; he was the son of Andrew Jackson Johnson (from Saline Co.) and Adar Francis Ellis (from Putnam Co., TN). 8. William Oscar (Mar 1899 - ____?___) md. Neta M. Eaton, dau of L. B. Eaton and Anna M. Bickel. They had 3 children: Sally Morris, md. #2, ___?___ Smith; Max Morris, residing in Nashville, IN, in 1992; and Judy Morris who married Bill Mann, and resided in Kansas City, MO, in 1992. I have her 1992 address if you e-mail me privately. Of course, it could very well no be valid now. 9. ____?___ died in infancy.

I have a Thomas Delton (or Delano) Morris and Nannie Bradshaw, my maternal grandparents, living on a farm just south of Norris City in the Depression. TD also had a first wife, Elnorah Shaver. T.D.'s father was John F. Morris and mother, Hester A.W. McClendon (sp??), came to Saline Co. (Eldorado) from Tenn. as kids in about 1831. Thanks, Ernie Heltsley

i'm running late for the roll call, but I started on this and couldn't find a stopping point. I do not research ALL of these names (wouldn't that be something!), as many are tangential to my main Rice line. These are the names included in the following family information: ALLEN, ANDERSON, BALDRIDGE, BARNETT, BATZ, BEATTY, BLACK, BROUGHER, BROWN, CRAIG, DARLEY, ENDSLEY, EVELETH, GHOLSON, GILHAM, GOSSETT, GROVES, HART, HAWKINS, HEALY HENDRIX, JOHNSON, JOHNSTON, MASON, MA(Y)SON, McGILLIARD, MILLS, MILLER, MOORE, MORRIS, NELSON, ORR, PEARCE, RICE, RILEY, SIGLER, STEELE, STERLING, STEVENSON, STUART, SUMMERS, SYKES, TALIAFERRO, TAYNTOR, UPTON, VARNEY, VEATCH, WALLACE, WALTERS, WARNER, WELSH, wILLIAMS WILLIAM HENRY RICE born 31 Dec 1851 White Co., IL died 17 Jun 1942, Enfield, White Co., IL; married 5 Jan 1876 in Sacramento, White Co., IL, to MARY JANE STERLING born 11 Jan 1856 Sacramento, White Co., IL died 4 Sep 1918 Enfield, White Co., IL dau of THOMAS STERLING and REBECCA J. ENDSLEY Children of WILLIAM HENRY RICE and MARY JANE STERLING 1. BERTIE ENDSLEY RICE, died in infancy 2. EFFA IRENE RICE married CHARLES WILLIAMS 3. EDWIN LOREN RICE, died young 4. WILLIAM THOMAS RICE married EDNA MASON 5. MARTHA REBECCA RICE married CLARENCE JAMES MALONE 6. JOHN HENRY RICE married #1, JENNIE MILLS; #2 JENNIE (BROUGHER) UPTON, widow of CLARENCE UPTON 7. CARRIE STERLING RICE married CHALMUS ELI ALLEN 8. MARY HELEN RICE, died at age of 3 from swallowing a brass button. 9. RAYMOND TALMAGE RICE married FRANCES ALLENE DARLEY 10. ARTHUR LINCOLN RICE married RUBY LEE STUART THOMAS STERLING, born 29 May 1822, Knox Co., TN; died 3 May 1862, Sacramento, White Co., IL of disease contracted in the Union Army during Civil War. He had been stationed in Memphis, TN, with WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE (see below) during a measles outbreak. Son of JOHN PATTERSON STERLING, SR., and SARAH ("Sallie") ANDERSON; THOMAS STERLING married 11 Dec 1845 in Blount Co., TN, to REBECCA J. ENDSLEY, born 29 June 1825 in NC died 4 July 1901, Sacramento, White Co., IL. dau of JAMES ENDSLEY and SARAH McGILLIARD She married 2nd to JOHN SIGLER on 6 Oct 1864 in White Co., IL. he was born 2 Nov 1809 in KY, and died 28 Dec 1902 He had been married to ISABELLA W. BLACK who died in Hamilton Co., IL, after the 1860 census. Children of John and Rebecca were 1. MARGARET ("Maggie") SIGLER who married JOHN GROVES and moved to Cottage Grove, OR; 2. FRANCES ("Frank") SIGLER who married WILBUR NELSON Their son, CLYDE NELSON married NELLIE MAE WALLACE Their son, DOYLE FRANCIS NELSON married LOUELLA NORRINE BEATTY Their children are DAVID FRANCIS NELSON AND LESLIE DIANE NELSON WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE, father of WILLIAM HENRY RICE (above), was born 26 May 1826, Stokes Station (no longer exists, but was located between Carmi and Norris City), White Co., IL; he died of measles during the Civil War, 7 Mar 1863 at Baptist Church Hospital (a church taken over by the Union Army to serve as a hospital) in Memphis, TN. He was scheduled to rejoin his unit the next day, but he got up during the night to get a drink of water for another ill soldier, collapsed and died. In 1856, William and his brother ALLAN RICE had built the Saline Salt Works in Equality, IL. They ran the salt works for 2 or 3 years and then sold it. On 5 Mar 1847, in White Co., IL, WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE married MARTHA ANN GOSSETT, born 17 Mar 1826, Sumner Co., TN. she died 26 Aug 1901, White Co., IL; Martha did not remarry. Her eleven year-old son, WILLIAM HENRY RICE, did the farm work and MARTHA ANN did very fine needlework (which ruined her vision) to support her five surviving children. dau of ABRAM GOSSETT and REBECCA BATZ ABRAM GOSSETT, born 1791 Montgomery Co., TN, and REBECCA BATZ. Rebecca died while Martha Ann was young, and Abram married 2nd, MARTHA WALTERS. WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE'S father was ABEL RICE, born 5 Sep 1792 in Tinmouth, VT; died 18 Feb 1846, White Co., IL (gravestone was transcribed in a White Co. cemetery book as "March" for the month of death) he was married 11 Oct 1815/16, in Maury Co., TN to LYDIA GHOLSON, born 15 Jun 1792, prob. Woodford Co., KY; died 1 July 1850 White Co., IL. dau of FRANCIS GHOLSON and MARY ("Polly") CRAIG. MARY, her mother, was the dau of TOLIVER CRAIG, JR. and ELIZABETH JOHNSTON, and her grandparents were TALIAFERRO ("TOLIVER") CRAIG, SR.(son of JOHN CRAIG and JANE TALIAFERRO) and MARY ("Polly") HAWKINS, the heroine of Bryan's Station, KY.. ABEL and LYDIA (GHOLSON) RICE'S children were the following: 1. TOLIVER GHOLSON RICE - married #1, ELIZABETH MILLER and married #2, NANCY (STEVENSON) HENDRIX. 2. ELIZA R. RICE - married WILLIAM JOHNSON 3. HULDA A. RICE - married ABEL VARNEY, JR. 4. MARTHA M. ("Patsy") RICE - married NATHAN T. HART 5. SARAH M. RICE - married JOHN M. VEATCH 6. ALLEN M. RICE - married SUSANNAH M. PEARCE 7. WILLIAM EMMERSON RICE married MARTHA A. GOSSETT (above) 8. HENRY C. RICE - married ARLETTA M. HEALY 9. ELIZABETH J. RICE - married RICHARD M. JOHNSON 10. MARY ANN RICE - married REV. JAMES L. RILEY 11. JOEL RICE - married CHARLOTTE L. HEALY ABEL RICE was the son of EBENEZER RICE AND RUTH HENRIETTA EVELETH. EBENEZER RICE was born 12 Mar 1756, Shrewsbury, Mass. died Oct 1831 in Maury Co., TN, where he had gone as a missionary to the Chickasaw Indians before 1810. He married #1, SARAH TAYNTOR, (1756-1790) on 20 Sep 1780 in Mass. He married #2, RUTH HENRIETTA EVELETH, of Stow, MA , on 18 Dec 1791. EBENEZER RICE'S children: 1. ROWLAND RICE md. PHERABA WARNER (he died in War of 1812)] 2. EBENEZER RICE, JR. md. CATHARINE ("Caty") BALDRIDGE and settled in Scott Co., IL 3. SARAH ("Sally") RICE md. JAMES MA(Y)SON 4. FLAVEL (died young) 5. ABEL RICE (see in text above) 6. MARTHA ("Patsy") RICE md. #1, ALLEN FLOYD MOORE md. #2, MOSES PEARCE 7. JOEL RICE md. #1, MARY HARRIET BROWN md. #2, MARIA C. (wALLACE) MILLER JOEL RICE'S children (all born in White Co., IL) 1. ARCHIBALD B. RICE md. #1, NANCY MILLER #2, MARY ELIABETH MILLER #3, MAHALA _________ 2. HARRIET RICE md. MARK MILLER 3. ABEL H. RICE, died in 1851 at age 23, still unmarried in 1850 census. 4. MARY JANE RICE md. ALFRED B. ORR (who was first married to Mary Jane's sister NANCY JANE RICE 5. NANCY JANE RICE was first wife of ALFRED B. ORR 6. TOLIVER RICE md. ELENOR STEELE 7. LOUISA PARTHENA RICE md. #1, ALEX M. MILLER md. #2, PETER CALVIN MILLER 8. BERTHA C. RICE died young; born 1842 - not in 1850 census 9. CHARLES RICE, born 1843; died when? 10. JOEL RICE, JR., born 1845; not in 1850 census 11. MARY ADELINE RICE md. SNOWDEN VEATCH 12. MARIAH ISABELLE RICE md. RYDERAS CLARK GILHAM 13 CHARLOTTE TABITHA RICE, md. #1 ____?____ SYKES md. #2 WILLIAM M. ORR

David, I would like to correct you on your data; I am a descendant from Aquilla Greer, born 1744 and married to Elizabeth Bandy, daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Bandy of Franklin County, Virginia. This Aquilla Greer, Jr. died young and left 8 children. My William Greer was the eldest child of this Aquilla, Jr and Elizabeth Bandy. Asa Greer was a son also; he married Rebecca Neighbors in Franklin County, Va. Also Aquilla Greer, the third who married Elizabeth Smith and lived in Gallatin County, Illinois is a son. The Aquilla Greer who married Elizabeth Welch in Wilson or Davidson County, Tenn, and two other women, was the son of Asa and Rebecca Neighbors. Two of his daughters married into the Quigley and Eubanks family-one named Martha Ann(Quigley)and one named Mary Elizabeth (Eubanks). I have sent many messages to the White County, Gallatin County and only once received an reply. I will be publishing my life time reserch on Aquilla Greer and Elizabeth Low and their descendants(He was the son of John Greer and Sarah Day of Baltimore County, Maryland and they had only JOhn who married Sarah Day. The first Aquilla Greer came from John and Sarah Day Greer. This is not to push my book--it may be private copies for some libraries and my Greer families only. I am editing now and real busy but if you need more info, I will be glad to send it. Then too, Thanks Bea Greer O'Quin From: "David Schichner" <davepeg@attbi.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Quigley/ Greer/Eubanks etc. > Hello Carol and All, > > I too have heard this Marth Ann Eubanks story, and have spent a lot of time > on this branch, complicated more by the errors in the 1860 census. > Here is what I have. > Aquilla Greer, Jr. (son of Asa Greer and Rebecca Neighbors) (Aquilla also > grandson of Aquilla Greer Jr) > married Elizabeth Welch, 21 March 1815 in Tennessee. > Children, Mary Elizabeth (Polly), William, John, Martha Ann, George William. > > Mary Elizabeth married James "Bigfoot" Eubanks, Jr. - 03 March 1835 > Martha Ann married Reuben W. Quigley - 27 March 1856 > > Mary Elizabeth and James Eubanks Jr. had at least 11 children. One was Nancy > Jane Eubanks. > Nancy married Reuben's brother - Philip Carroll Quigley > > Because Martha Ann Quigley was Aunt to Nancy Jane Eubanks, someone may have > thought that Martha was > a Eubanks, but Martha was Aunt on Nancy's mother's side. > > ASA GREER - named his son after his father Aquilla Greer, Jr. > Aquilla Greer, Jr. born 1744, married to Mary Haynes > son - Aquilla Greer, Sr. married Elizabeth Smith > son - Asa Greer born 1772, married Rebecca Neighbors > son of Asa - Aquilla Greer, Jr. born 1792, married Elizabeth Welch > > Reuben Walden Quigley - brother to my great grandfather. > > Dave, > Acampo, CA > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:17 PM > Subject: [ILWHITE] Quigley/ Greer/Eubanks etc. > > > > Hi, can somebody please help me out here? I have some data that needs to > be > > clarified somehow and I think there are a lot of Eubanks/ Greer/Quigley > > folks that may be able to help me figure out some murky stuff! > > > > Starting with Asa GREER/Rebecca Neighbors, who are Asa's children? I have > > one as being Aquilla (just love that name!). Who did Aquilla marry? > > > > I also have that Aquilla GREERr Jr (must be son of Aquilla Sr who was the > > son of Asa and Rebecca above???) married Elizabeth Welch. This Aquilla > Jr. > > had at least 2 daughters, Mary "Polly" Elizabeth GREER and Martha Ann > GREER. > > > > Where the confusion comes in is here: > > > > I have that Martha Ann EUBANKS married Reuben W. QUIGLEY ? According to > the > > IL Statewide Marriages, it was Martha Ann GREER that married Reuben W. > > QUIGLEY March 27, 1856. Is this Martha Ann GREER the daughter of James > > EUBANKS JR (b. 1808-1810) and Mary "Polly" Elizabeth GREER (b. 1817-1820)? > > > > > > Thanks for any assistance, I'm really quite confused. > > > > Carol Dugger > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Carol This is what I show for Asa + Rebecca. My line comes in with the Greer/Johnson end of it. As you can see John Johnson's kids seemed to have fancied them Baker boys !! Descendants of Asa Greer 1 Asa Greer b: 1772 in Bedford Co Va d: 1835 in White County Illinois . +Rebecca Neighbors b: 1775 Va d: Aft. 1850 Ill m: July 25, 1791 Bedford Co Va 2 Mary Greer b: 1799 in Virginia d: Bef. 1870 in White County Illinois .... +John Johnson b: 1794 Ga d: Aft. 1870 in Illinois m: 1814 in Tennesse .. 3 Rebecca Johnson b: 1815 in Tennesse d: 1880 in Saline County Illinois .. 3 Sarah Ann Johnson b: 1815 in Tennesse d: Aft. 1870 ......+Edmund Baker b: June 18, 1807 Tenn d: April 1, 1866 Saline Co Ill m: Illinois .. 3 Mariah Johnson b: 1816 in Tennesse d: Sept 04, 1890 in Saline Co Illinois ......+David Pendleton Baker b: 1815 Ill d:1/19/1879 Ill m:4/26/1839 Gallatin Co Ill .. 3 William Johnson b: 1825 in Tennesse ...... +Sarilda b: 1825 in Kentucky .. 3 Elizabeth Johnson b: 1829 in Roanoke County, Tennessee ......+Jonathan Garner Stricklin b: 1826 Gallatin Co Ill d:7/11/1874 Gallatin Co Ill m: Jan 28, 1847 Gallatin Co Ill .. 3 Lucy Ann Johnson b: 1832 in Illinois ......+William Greer b: Aug 31, 1831 Wilson Co Tenn d: Aft. 1900 m: Jan 07, 1849 .. 3 Elijah J Johnson b: Nov 24, 1834 Ill d: March 31, 1907 Saline Co Illinois ......+Lovinia Baker b:4/8/1838 Tenn d: Feb 27, 1899 Saline Co Ill m: Aug 06, 1853 .. *2nd Wife of Elijah J Johnson: ......+Mandy Sandlin Dodds b: 1858 in Tenn m: February 14, 1900 in Illinois .. 3 Nancy J Johnson b: 1838 Ill POSSIBLY NANCY J BAKER d: 1865 in Saline County, Illinois ......+William Bayes Stricklin b: 1835 Ill d: 1897 Saline Co Ill m: March 3, 1854 .. 3 James Johnson b: June 4, 1839 Ill d: Aug19, 1918 Saline County Illinois ......+Nancy Jane Graves b: March 27, 1838 in Tennesse d: November 03, 1895 in Saline County Illinois m: December 24, 1857 in Davidson County Tennesse .. 3 Martin Johnson b: 1841 in Illinois d: 1901 in Illinois ......+Teressa Cartherine Smith b: 1842 Tenn d: Bef. 1901 Ill m: Aug 24, 1859 Ill .. *2nd Wife of Martin Johnson: ...... +Martha Tuttle m: May 16, 1901 in Illinois .. 3 Mary Laura Johnson b: 1817 Tennessee d: 1880 in Saline County Illinois ......+John Baker b: 1816 Ill d: July 16, 1861 m: Nov 23, 1837 in Gallatin Co Ill 2 Aquilla Greer b: 1792 d: 1880 in White County Illinois .... +Elizabeth Welch .. 3 Mary Greer b: 1817 Wilson Co Tenn d: Aft. 1860 in Gallatin County Illinois ...... +James Eubanks b: 1808 m: March 03, 1835 in White County Illinois .. 3 James M Greer b: 1816 in Tennessee ...... +Caroline Phipps b: 1817 in Kentucky m: December 16, 1834 2 William Greer b: 1796 2 Elijah Greer b: 1800 2 Asa Greer b: in Unknown if s/o Asa 2 Abraham Greer b: 1804 .... +Peggy Kinney m: 1825 in Tennessee .. 3 William M Greer .. 3 Frances Marion Greer 2 James Greer b: 1810 2 Delilah Greer b: 1806 2 Seth Greer b: 1800 >>>>>

Wish I could help. Only Eubanks I have is James Henry m. Mary Campbell. Daughter Anna Cora Eubanks m. John Morrow Marlin, Brownsville, White Co. I am of the Marlin family. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:17 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Quigley/ Greer/Eubanks etc. > Hi, can somebody please help me out here? I have some data that needs to be > clarified somehow and I think there are a lot of Eubanks/ Greer/Quigley > folks that may be able to help me figure out some murky stuff! > > Starting with Asa GREER/Rebecca Neighbors, who are Asa's children? I have > one as being Aquilla (just love that name!). Who did Aquilla marry? > > I also have that Aquilla GREERr Jr (must be son of Aquilla Sr who was the > son of Asa and Rebecca above???) married Elizabeth Welch. This Aquilla Jr. > had at least 2 daughters, Mary "Polly" Elizabeth GREER and Martha Ann GREER. > > Where the confusion comes in is here: > > I have that Martha Ann EUBANKS married Reuben W. QUIGLEY ? According to the > IL Statewide Marriages, it was Martha Ann GREER that married Reuben W. > QUIGLEY March 27, 1856. Is this Martha Ann GREER the daughter of James > EUBANKS JR (b. 1808-1810) and Mary "Polly" Elizabeth GREER (b. 1817-1820)? > > > Thanks for any assistance, I'm really quite confused. > > Carol Dugger > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Carol and All, I too have heard this Marth Ann Eubanks story, and have spent a lot of time on this branch, complicated more by the errors in the 1860 census. Here is what I have. Aquilla Greer, Jr. (son of Asa Greer and Rebecca Neighbors) (Aquilla also grandson of Aquilla Greer Jr) married Elizabeth Welch, 21 March 1815 in Tennessee. Children, Mary Elizabeth (Polly), William, John, Martha Ann, George William. Mary Elizabeth married James "Bigfoot" Eubanks, Jr. - 03 March 1835 Martha Ann married Reuben W. Quigley - 27 March 1856 Mary Elizabeth and James Eubanks Jr. had at least 11 children. One was Nancy Jane Eubanks. Nancy married Reuben's brother - Philip Carroll Quigley Because Martha Ann Quigley was Aunt to Nancy Jane Eubanks, someone may have thought that Martha was a Eubanks, but Martha was Aunt on Nancy's mother's side. ASA GREER - named his son after his father Aquilla Greer, Jr. Aquilla Greer, Jr. born 1744, married to Mary Haynes son - Aquilla Greer, Sr. married Elizabeth Smith son - Asa Greer born 1772, married Rebecca Neighbors son of Asa - Aquilla Greer, Jr. born 1792, married Elizabeth Welch Reuben Walden Quigley - brother to my great grandfather. Dave, Acampo, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:17 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Quigley/ Greer/Eubanks etc. > Hi, can somebody please help me out here? I have some data that needs to be > clarified somehow and I think there are a lot of Eubanks/ Greer/Quigley > folks that may be able to help me figure out some murky stuff! > > Starting with Asa GREER/Rebecca Neighbors, who are Asa's children? I have > one as being Aquilla (just love that name!). Who did Aquilla marry? > > I also have that Aquilla GREERr Jr (must be son of Aquilla Sr who was the > son of Asa and Rebecca above???) married Elizabeth Welch. This Aquilla Jr. > had at least 2 daughters, Mary "Polly" Elizabeth GREER and Martha Ann GREER. > > Where the confusion comes in is here: > > I have that Martha Ann EUBANKS married Reuben W. QUIGLEY ? According to the > IL Statewide Marriages, it was Martha Ann GREER that married Reuben W. > QUIGLEY March 27, 1856. Is this Martha Ann GREER the daughter of James > EUBANKS JR (b. 1808-1810) and Mary "Polly" Elizabeth GREER (b. 1817-1820)? > > > Thanks for any assistance, I'm really quite confused. > > Carol Dugger > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bill Huckaby has been giving some very good thought about what happened to my Joseph Edgar Carter family. Quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- A Mrs. Elizabeth Carter married Berry Rose on February 9, 1879, in White Co., Illinois. The 1880 Census transcript shows Berry Rose and wife Elizabeth living in Mill Shoals Twp., White Co. In the household, there are three children of interest: Viola E. Carter, age 15, Joseph E. Carter age 12 and Mary T. Carter, age 9. This shows that Mrs. Elizabeth Carter is was the mother of Joseph E. (Edgar) Carter. This data is consistent with what we believe about Joseph E, Carter and would indicate that Mrs. Elizabeth Carter is likely to have been Elizabeth Musgrave, the wife of William Carter. This would also hint at the fact that it is likely that William Carter had died though it is possible that there was a divorce. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Does anyone have access to the marriage records that could give me more detail about the marriage of Mrs. Elizabeth CARTER and Berry ROSE? Also, if anyone does have access, I would also like the details of the marriage of Joseph Edgar Carter and Bales, Alice Elizabeth Marcus (MRS) Date is 11/15/1884. If not, I will have to send away for that information. Thank you everyone for all the help that you have given. Thanks, Mike Clemmons