Errors (and duplicate listings) are not uncommon in the censuses. Note age differences, Samuel listed as son not stepson, and Samuel's last name assumed to be Fowler in the 2nd listing. But I would guess the marriage date is wrong here - there just wasn't too much "shacking up" going on in those days, at least not this publicly. Perhaps it's the date the marriage was registered? FOWLER ALEXANDER 26 M W IL IL WHITE Co., GRAYVILLE PCT, 1870, with wife Mary 24, b TN, and son George 3, b IL. --- John McGowan <jmack@carolina.net> wrote: > Folks, > Another dilema: in 1882 estate division of her > bachelor Uncle Henry > McGOWAN in Hyde Co., NC, Alemeda McGOWAN > (b.1855), daughter of Wiley & > Tabitha (Norris) McGOWAN of Saline Co., IL, she > is listed as Alemeda > FOWLER. In Illinois records I have found the > following: Alexander > FOWLER m. Mrs. Almeda WILKINS on Jan. 11, 1881 > in Gallatin Co., IL. > Also, her sister Rachel McGOWAN was married at > the home of Alexander > FOWLER. In the 1880 Census of Whitle Co., IL I > found them listed twice: > -------------------------------------------------- > White Co., IL - Indian Creek > p.413D > Alexender Fowler 36 head Laborer IL/AL/TN > Almada " 24 wife IL/TN/TN > George F. Fowler 13 brother IL/AL/TN > Samuel Wilkins 2 son IL/IL/IL > -------------------------------------------------- > White Co., IL - Indian Creek > p.421D > Alixander Fowler 35 head Laborer IL/TN/TN > Almada " 25 wife IL/TN/TN > George F. " 12 son IL/IL/IL > Samuel W. " 3 son IL/IL/IL > -------------------------------------------------- > So, either the above marriage date is incorrect > of Alexander and Alemeda > lived together before they were married. > Any information on Alexander FOWLER, b.c.1844 > in Illinois, or the > McGOWANS of Saline & White Co., IL, will be > greatly appreciated. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

BURRISS LORENZO 34 M W IL IL WHITE HAWTHORNE TWP 1910 Series: T624 Roll: 333 Page: 138 Burriss, Lorenzo, head, m, w, 34, md once 12 yrs, b Il, fa b KY, mo b IL, farm laborer Rella, wife, 32, md once 12 yrs, 6 ch, 5 living, b IL, fa b KY, mo b IL Children were Earl, Dorothjy, Kenneth, Ernest W., Leland, all b IL except Kenneth, who was b WA. Also Burriss, Amos, 32, brother, single, b IL, fa b KY, mo b IL, farm laborer. There is an older Joseph and Margaret Burris on the same page. --- Norman Gidcumb <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> wrote: > If anyone has excess to an index for these > census I would appreciate a look > up for Clinton Burris, born IL (1876) and wife > Rilla, born IL (1877). > > In 1900 they were in White Co. living parents > Joseph and Margaret Burris. > Enfield Township household 301. 1930 I found > them in Venice City, Madison > County, IL. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

If anyone has excess to an index for these census I would appreciate a look up for Clinton Burris, born IL (1876) and wife Rilla, born IL (1877). In 1900 they were in White Co. living parents Joseph and Margaret Burris. Enfield Township household 301. 1930 I found them in Venice City, Madison County, IL. Many thanks, Norm

Folks, Another dilema: in 1882 estate division of her bachelor Uncle Henry McGOWAN in Hyde Co., NC, Alemeda McGOWAN (b.1855), daughter of Wiley & Tabitha (Norris) McGOWAN of Saline Co., IL, she is listed as Alemeda FOWLER. In Illinois records I have found the following: Alexander FOWLER m. Mrs. Almeda WILKINS on Jan. 11, 1881 in Gallatin Co., IL. Also, her sister Rachel McGOWAN was married at the home of Alexander FOWLER. In the 1880 Census of Whitle Co., IL I found them listed twice: -------------------------------------------------- White Co., IL - Indian Creek p.413D Alexender Fowler 36 head Laborer IL/AL/TN Almada " 24 wife IL/TN/TN George F. Fowler 13 brother IL/AL/TN Samuel Wilkins 2 son IL/IL/IL -------------------------------------------------- White Co., IL - Indian Creek p.421D Alixander Fowler 35 head Laborer IL/TN/TN Almada " 25 wife IL/TN/TN George F. " 12 son IL/IL/IL Samuel W. " 3 son IL/IL/IL -------------------------------------------------- So, either the above marriage date is incorrect of Alexander and Alemeda lived together before they were married. Any information on Alexander FOWLER, b.c.1844 in Illinois, or the McGOWANS of Saline & White Co., IL, will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John McGowan mailto:jmack@carolina.net

Norm, Sometimes even the trickiest of spellings can't help find a person. I tried 2 different sources, one being Ancestry, for them in 1920 and came up empty. For 1910 White Co. Hawthorne Twp ( ED 140 ) Page 7B ( go to image 13 or 14 ) Good Luck, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Norman Gidcumb [mailto:ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:22 PM To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] 1910 & 1920 census Carolyn, Yes that is them. He went by Lorenzo in 1900 and Clinton in 1930. Give me as much as possible to find them on Anscestry, I'll print out a sheet. I've tried every combination I could think of in the 1920 and came up empty. Thanks, Norm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

That is a great list of people. I recognized a lot of names ----- Original Message ----- From: <Thikaben@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: [ILWHITE] Check out Journal of Loren Bruce Bennett > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">Click here: Journal of Loren Bruce Bennett</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.root sweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A> > > > Sorry. Maybe because my print is larger, the last letter is not showing. > Try again. > > Let me know if it doesn't work this time. > > Jane > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Folks, I have a small dilema. With John J. RUPERT (1836-1885) of White Co., IL, I have been told that he married three times. Of course, I am mainly interested in Anna McGowan since she was a niece of my gg grandfather. However, John J's. is listed as marrying his first two wives within a few weks of each other. While I'm sure this may be possible, I would appreciate it if anyone could check on it for me. Thanks very much. Here are the marriages I have for John J. Rupert/Rupart: 1st - Nancy J. Williams - April 5, 1857 in White Co, IL. 2nd - Elizabeth Nelson - April 30, 1857 in White Co, IL. 3rd - Anna McGowan - April 9, 1876 in White Co, IL. Also, any additional info on John J. Rupert would be appreciated. John McGowan mailto:jmack@carolina.net

Hi Norm, Could Clinton also use the name Lorenzo ? There is a Lorenzo Burris in 1910 White Co. , age matching those you gave , with wife Rella ( Rilla ). They are a few houses down from Joseph. Have not found them in 1920 yet. Let me know if you need the page # or the whole reading. Carolyn Campbell White -----Original Message----- From: Norman Gidcumb [mailto:ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:06 PM To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILWHITE] 1910 & 1920 census If anyone has excess to an index for these census I would appreciate a look up for Clinton Burris, born IL (1876) and wife Rilla, born IL (1877). In 1900 they were in White Co. living parents Joseph and Margaret Burris. Enfield Township household 301. 1930 I found them in Venice City, Madison County, IL. Many thanks, Norm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

John, There doesn't appear to be a marriage shown for John Rupert and Nancy J. Williams. There is one for the other two. April 30, 1857 - John Rupert Jr. & Elizabeth Nelson White Co., IL April 9, 1876 - John J. Rupert (38) & Anna McGowan (18) White Co., Il Married by J.M. Campbell Both of these marriages are found on the Illinois Statewide marriage index as well as in Volume 1 of Marriage's from White Co., IL by Harriet B. Vaught This is not much , but I hope it helps a little. Carolyn Campbell White -----Original Message----- From: John McGowan [mailto:jmack@carolina.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:49 AM To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILWHITE] White Co. Marriages - John J. Rupert Folks, I have a small dilema. With John J. RUPERT (1836-1885) of White Co., IL, I have been told that he married three times. Of course, I am mainly interested in Anna McGowan since she was a niece of my gg grandfather. However, John J's. is listed as marrying his first two wives within a few weks of each other. While I'm sure this may be possible, I would appreciate it if anyone could check on it for me. Thanks very much. Here are the marriages I have for John J. Rupert/Rupart: 1st - Nancy J. Williams - April 5, 1857 in White Co, IL. 2nd - Elizabeth Nelson - April 30, 1857 in White Co, IL. 3rd - Anna McGowan - April 9, 1876 in White Co, IL. Also, any additional info on John J. Rupert would be appreciated. John McGowan mailto:jmack@carolina.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Were these actual marriage returns or just applications for licenses? If the latter, then the first marriage may never have occurred. Of course, these could be two or more different people. There is, e.g., a 61-yr. old John Rupert in White Co. in 1860 and an (unmarried) 18-yr old in Woodford Co. IL that year. And in 1870, there is an apparently unmarried 33 yr old John Rupert in White Co., living with a Melvin family. None of them seem to be yours??? --- John McGowan <jmack@carolina.net> wrote: > Folks, > I have a small dilema. With John J. RUPERT > (1836-1885) of White Co., > IL, I have been told that he married three > times. Of course, I am > mainly interested in Anna McGowan since she was > a niece of my gg > grandfather. However, John J's. is listed as > marrying his first two > wives within a few weks of each other. While > I'm sure this may be > possible, I would appreciate it if anyone could > check on it for me. > Thanks very much. Here are the marriages I > have for John J. > Rupert/Rupart: > > 1st - Nancy J. Williams - April 5, 1857 in > White Co, IL. > 2nd - Elizabeth Nelson - April 30, 1857 in > White Co, IL. > 3rd - Anna McGowan - April 9, 1876 in White Co, > IL. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">Click here: Journal of Loren Bruce Bennett</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A> Sorry. Maybe because my print is larger, the last letter is not showing. Try again. Let me know if it doesn't work this time. Jane

Can't get this site to respond either...Are we missing a letter some place? I have lots of Lands so would like to check it out for possible more info...

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link didn't work ----- Original Message ----- From: <Thikaben@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Wilson > There were a lot of Pyles and Lands in the New Haven area. A record was kept > for years of their marriages and deaths (along with the other residents). > > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.root sweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A> > > Maybe you will find some of your family listed here. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

There were a lot of Pyles and Lands in the New Haven area. A record was kept for years of their marriages and deaths (along with the other residents). <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A> Maybe you will find some of your family listed here.

Do you have a Lewis Bond born abt. 1830 in TN married 10 May 1860 to Rachel Wilkerson of TN. They were married in Jefferson Co. IL. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "ladybug" <ladybug@arends-sons.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] William Leonard Bond 1901 - 1948 or 1949 > Looking for information on wives of William Leonard Bond. born 1-21-1901 Hamilton County, Il. > s/o John E. Bond and Edith M. Davis Bond. > wed: Ida B. Schell 12-13-1924 HCI > wed: Della ? when? where? > > What happened to the two wives? WHO were they? > > Gail Hahn Hutchcraft, ladybug@arends-sons.com > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

sorry, no ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] William Leonard Bond 1901 - 1948 or 1949 > Do you have a Lewis Bond born abt. 1830 in TN married 10 May 1860 to Rachel > Wilkerson of TN. They were married in Jefferson Co. IL. > > Janean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ladybug" <ladybug@arends-sons.com> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: [ILWHITE] William Leonard Bond 1901 - 1948 or 1949 > > > > Looking for information on wives of William Leonard Bond. born 1-21-1901 > Hamilton County, Il. > > s/o John E. Bond and Edith M. Davis Bond. > > wed: Ida B. Schell 12-13-1924 HCI > > wed: Della ? when? where? > > > > What happened to the two wives? WHO were they? > > > > Gail Hahn Hutchcraft, ladybug@arends-sons.com > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Looking for information on wives of William Leonard Bond. born 1-21-1901 Hamilton County, Il. s/o John E. Bond and Edith M. Davis Bond. wed: Ida B. Schell 12-13-1924 HCI wed: Della ? when? where? What happened to the two wives? WHO were they? Gail Hahn Hutchcraft, ladybug@arends-sons.com

I have no idea but would imagine it very possible. My father was born in Mt. Vernon. That was the "big" city to go to nearest Carmi and Enfield. I have no locations for the Lands or Pyles but the Marlin's at least my direct line was in Carmi and Enfield. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BamiyanTourist@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Wilson > Were the Land, Pyle, and Marlin families in the Mt. Vernon area, or were some > of them in the New Haven area? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Were the Land, Pyle, and Marlin families in the Mt. Vernon area, or were some of them in the New Haven area?