It is a Hutchcraft I am searching... Charles Hutchcraft b. abt 1851 s/o John and Mary Charlotte Crisel Hutchcraft Mary Charlotte remarries to George Daily and has another son, Silas Daily. Charles disappears after the 1860 census, @ age 9..... would be 19 in the 1870 census; but cannot locate. ladybug@arends-sons.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "S" To: ladybug@arends-sons.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Harrelson I have a relatively small Harrelson book with a brief index of the Harrelson's only ... if you would tell me which of the Harrelson's the connection would be to, I would be happy to see what I might find. Sandra

Gail, I have copies of Felty's and Harrelson's books, but I don't know that they are still available. I can do a lookup for you, but if you want the books, check with the Genealogical Society of Southern Illinois (GSIS) to see if they obtained permission to reissue. Shirley

I've seen the prices - out of my reach! Appreciate a lookup? Charles Hutchcraft wed Mary Jane Drew 3-30-1871 in HCI Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeeandBop31@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] 1871 marriage > Gail, > I have copies of Felty's and Harrelson's books, but I don't know that they > are still available. I can do a lookup for you, but if you want the books, > check with the Genealogical Society of Southern Illinois (GSIS) to see if they > obtained permission to reissue. > > Shirley > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Looking for anyone researching this family. Thanks Janean Modified Register for Judge William Wilson First Generation 1. Judge William Wilson was born on 27 Apr 1794 in Loudoun County Va.. He died on 29 Apr 1857 in Carmi, White Co. IL. William married Mary S. Davidson on 27 Apr 1820 in Illinois. Mary was born in 1800 in Wheeling, Va.. She died on 23 Nov 1868 in Carmi, White Co. IL. They had the following children: 2 M i. Dr. William H. Wilson was born on 12 Jun 1821 in Illinois. He died on 3 Aug 1850. 3 M ii. John Cook Wilson was born on 29 Jul 1823 in Illinois. He died in Hawthorne Township, White Co. IL. 4 M iii. Robert Davidson Wilson was born on 5 Jan 1826. He died in California. 5 M iv. Charles J.F. Wilson was born on 19 Jun 1827. He died in Carmi, White Co. IL. Charles married Lucy Wilson daughter of John Stretchley Wilson and Harriet L. Blue. Lucy was born in 1836 in Kentucky. 6 M v. Phillip King Wilson was born on 4 Mar 1829 in Illinois. He died in 1856 in Burlington, Iowa. 7 F vi. Mary Illinois Wilson was born on 5 Aug 1830. She died in Springfield, Illinois. Mary married Dr. B. Sturvi . 8 F vii. Margaret Eleanor Wilson was born on 25 Feb 1832. She died in Illiopolis, Sangamon Co. IL. Margaret married John Pearson . John was born in Harrodsburg, KY.. 9 M viii. Thomas K. Wilson was born on 27 Jul 1833. He died in Carmi, White Co. IL. Thomas married (1) Lucinda R. Vories Boyd daughter of Solomon Vories and Jane unknown Vories on 15 Feb 1863 in Carmi, White Co. IL. Lucinda was born in Carmi, White Co. IL. She died on 16 Mar 1865 in Carmi, White Co. IL. Thomas married (2) Mary O. Spicknall Nevitt daughter of Richard Spicknall on 18 Mar 1875 in Carmi, White Co. IL. Mary was born in Salem, Indiana. 10 F ix. Susan Jane Wilson was born on 11 Mar 1835 in Illinois. She died on 14 Nov 1844. 11 M x. Byron Wilson was born on 16 Apr 1843 in Illinois. He died on 18 May 1844. Appendix A - Notes 6. Phillip King Wilson Phillip King Wilson was born the day Jackson took his seat as President of the U.S. He became an eminent lawyer, and while a resident of Burlington, Iowa, came within a few votes of the nomination for Governor; he died in that city in 1856. 9. Thomas K. Wilson Thomas K. Wilson, farmer, Carmi, was born on the old homestead west of town, July 27, 1833, and is the son of Hon. William Wilson, so well known in the early history of Illinois. He was brought up on the farm, attended the Ayer's University at New Albany, Ind., in 1851, and then the Western Military Institute at Drennon Springs, Henry Co. Ky. In April, 1854, he went to California, where he followed mining one year and taught school two years, with eminent success. Sacramento was chiefly his home. On leaving he was offered $400 a month to remain as teacher, but his father having died here and left the estate to be settled by him, he had to return, in 1857. He moved into the town of Carmi in 1864, on Main Street fifth house west of Jessup st. Since moving into town Mr. Wilson has dealt in grain and tobacco, and attended to the farm at the old homestead. In 1872 he was elected Circuit Clerk, and served a term of four years. Politically he is Democrat, and he has been a Freemason for about twenty years. He takes great interest in educational affairs, and is a member of the Board of Education of Carmi, and a Trustee of the Southern Illinois Normal School and Commercial College. 9S. Mary O. Spicknall Nevitt When quite young she moved to Louisville, KY where she remained until grown; then the family removed to Rockport, IN. She first married Mr. Nevitt, and in 1869, about four weeks after his death, she came to Carmi, with her parents had come during the war. She was a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church.

I'm a little confused. I have no Thomas Carpenter, who is he? I have no wife for my William Shook so how do you know this is yours. Here is what I have: Copied from the History of Jefferson Co. IL, Globe Publ. C. Chicago. 1883. SAMUEL W. CARPENTER: S.W. Carpenter, miller, Dix, was born in Knox Co. KY on January 5, 1812, son of Benjamin and Melia (Shook) Carpenter. Her father, William Shook, was a native of German, and her mother an Englishwoman. Both died in Bedford Co. TN. Benjamin was engaged in boating on the Mississippi at the time of his death, but his family resided in Indiana at the time. His widow then removed to TN with her family to her people, where they resided unti 1830 when they came to Jefferson Co. where she died. She was the mother of seven children. Samuel and brother Jesse were the only ones still alive in 1883. Samuel went into partnership with his son William R.; purchased a mill to do custom grinding. March 7, 1833 Samuel married Lucinda O. Stockton. She was born in IL, daughter of Robert and Phoebe Stockton. Twelve children have been born to Mr. and Mrs. Carpenter, nine of who still survive - Phoebe C. Maxey, Robert W.; William R.; Margaret Spiller, Mary L. Frost, Jemima M. Beagle, Sarah T. Williams, Helen M. Metzenthin, and Isaac D. Mr. and Mrs. Carpenter are members of the Methodist Episcopal Church. In politics he is Democratic and for about 40 years has acted as Justice of the Peace. For eight years he was Associate Justice of the county. He is one of the few survivors of the Black Hawk war. Other surnames that married into this Carpenter family are: Elliot; Fyke; Maxey; Hutchinson; Spiller; Frost; McGuire; Stockton; Elkins; Blaylock; Long; Williams; Beagle; Metzenthine; Crosnoe (my line); Berry; Atwood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Walters" <chrisw1940@yahoo.com> To: <JRay38@neo.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: Shook/Hart > Hi Janean > > The one that would concern me the most is William Shook who died in Bedford Co had a > daughter named Melia.. married Benjamin Carpenter. You said this was your line.. > > All the early research for William never could turn up a daughter named Melia - not to > say she didn't exist though - just never any documentation. I come from this family > myself. William Shook/Catherine Sears did have a daughter named Mary Ann who married > Thomas Carpenter III.. > > > Gladys Hart who married William Austin is in my files.. She is a descendant of James > Williamson Hart/Jane Gott of White Co IL > > Those are the only 2 I have any information on... > > Christine Walters > > > > > Well this is what happens when you don't work on one family for a long time. All of a > sudden SHOOK looked familiar to me and I found the other two names. I know nothing but > here's what I have. > > Felix Foley m. Agnes Savage had son Theodore Foley who m. Pearl Stella Wilson (my 1st > cousin 2x rmvd). They had Gary Theodore Foley(son Matthew), Vickey Lynn Foley(Married > Randy Skelton) , Karen Elaine Foley (Married Robert Chase) , and Debra Kay Foley > (Married Larry Hart with son Johathan Hart). I also show a Ronald Ray Jackson with they > children. > > I have William Shook w/unknown wife. Died Bedford Co. TN. Daughter Melia Shook b. 1786 > TN d. 1853 Jefferson Co. IL married Benjamin Carpenter. Her son Samuel is my line. > > I also have Gladys Hart m. William Austin with daughter Ruby Nigel Austin who married > Everett Ellison Pyle. > > I have a Dana Hart who married William Andrew Smith of Omaha, Dallatin Co.IL son of John > Pender Smith Sr. of White Co. and Blanche Marie Miller. > > Like I said, I don't have much information on these people but can tell you how I tie > into them. Janean > > ===== > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Well this is what happens when you don't work on one family for a long time. All of a sudden SHOOK looked familiar to me and I found the other two names. I know nothing but here's what I have. Felix Foley m. Agnes Savage had son Theodore Foley who m. Pearl Stella Wilson (my 1st cousin 2x rmvd). They had Gary Theodore Foley(son Matthew), Vickey Lynn Foley(Married Randy Skelton) , Karen Elaine Foley (Married Robert Chase) , and Debra Kay Foley (Married Larry Hart with son Johathan Hart). I also show a Ronald Ray Jackson with they children. I have William Shook w/unknown wife. Died Bedford Co. TN. Daughter Melia Shook b. 1786 TN d. 1853 Jefferson Co. IL married Benjamin Carpenter. Her son Samuel is my line. I also have Gladys Hart m. William Austin with daughter Ruby Nigel Austin who married Everett Ellison Pyle. I have a Dana Hart who married William Andrew Smith of Omaha, Dallatin Co.IL son of John Pender Smith Sr. of White Co. and Blanche Marie Miller. Like I said, I don't have much information on these people but can tell you how I tie into them. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Walters" <chrisw1940@yahoo.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] HART > Hi Carol, > > Interesting possibility - I don't happen to have a David III born 1802 Mercer KY but I > did have a Shook/Hart connection in Crawford Co IL that I've had a lot of trouble with. > It was Miles Hart b abt 1823 in KY who married Temperance Shook in 1846. They did name > a son named David who was born in 1848. I've never been able to find out who Miles > Harts father was - could have been David, could have been anybody. Miles was born in KY > and moved to Crawford Co IL - which isn't all that close to Macoupin but they did manage > to get around quite well. I know that somewhere in this line I thought I saw some > mention of Macoupin but then it all runs together sometimes. If its not a lot of > trouble would you just send me the information and maybe I can figure out some > connection if there is one. My Catherine HART married James SHOOK which is why that > Crawford IL couple sticks in my mind. Their daughter Hannah Elizabeth SHOOK is my > ancestor. > > Thanks for the offer to help.. I appreciate it.. > > Christine Walters chrisw1940@yahoo.com > http://www.angelfire.com/tn3/hart/index.html > > > > > > > > --- Carol Dugger <cvdugger@allera.net> wrote: > > Christine, did any of those HART family members go up to Macoupin County? > > There are several HART families in Macoupin that I connect with via > > marriages., particularly a David Hart III b. 1802 from Mercer Co KY. I have > > some information on David's descendants but nothing further back than David. > > > > Carol Dugger > > Rio Vista CA > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Charles Hutchcraft wed Mary Jane Drew 3-30-1871 in Hamilton County, Il re: the index @ courthouse in McLeansboro. Many thanks - ----- Original Message ----- From: <Yoricat@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] 1871 marriage > Gail, > There is a copy of the Harrelson book here in Carbondale. Give me the > names again. > However, not all the names are in the book. I got a copy of my great > grandfather's marriage from Mcleansboro about 25 years ago. It is not in the book. > > Jeanette > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

All the Harrelson books were sold at GSSI. Mrs. Harrelson refused permission to reprint. The Felty books are still for sale. Tullyne's email is Tullyne2@yahoo.com. Jeanette

Gail, There is a copy of the Harrelson book here in Carbondale. Give me the names again. However, not all the names are in the book. I got a copy of my great grandfather's marriage from Mcleansboro about 25 years ago. It is not in the book. Jeanette

Hi Carol, Interesting possibility - I don't happen to have a David III born 1802 Mercer KY but I did have a Shook/Hart connection in Crawford Co IL that I've had a lot of trouble with. It was Miles Hart b abt 1823 in KY who married Temperance Shook in 1846. They did name a son named David who was born in 1848. I've never been able to find out who Miles Harts father was - could have been David, could have been anybody. Miles was born in KY and moved to Crawford Co IL - which isn't all that close to Macoupin but they did manage to get around quite well. I know that somewhere in this line I thought I saw some mention of Macoupin but then it all runs together sometimes. If its not a lot of trouble would you just send me the information and maybe I can figure out some connection if there is one. My Catherine HART married James SHOOK which is why that Crawford IL couple sticks in my mind. Their daughter Hannah Elizabeth SHOOK is my ancestor. Thanks for the offer to help.. I appreciate it.. Christine Walters chrisw1940@yahoo.com http://www.angelfire.com/tn3/hart/index.html --- Carol Dugger <cvdugger@allera.net> wrote: > Christine, did any of those HART family members go up to Macoupin County? > There are several HART families in Macoupin that I connect with via > marriages., particularly a David Hart III b. 1802 from Mercer Co KY. I have > some information on David's descendants but nothing further back than David. > > Carol Dugger > Rio Vista CA > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Copies of the Felty Books by Harrelson are in the Mary Smith Fay Gen. Library of White County, IL, 618-382-8425. Mrs. Harrelson gave permission to Genealogy Society of Southern Illinois at Carterville to publish the books. They are very large, hardbound, and therefore quite expensive. Ask for Tullyne Oliver. Janet Armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: <Yoricat@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] 1871 marriage > Hamilton County did not allow their records to be placed in the > Illinois State Marriage Index. However, there was a book of marriages done several > years ago by a resident in Hamilton Co. He is now deceased but the book is > still arround. I believe it was Ralph Harrelson who did the book. The last I > heard his widow was still alive. > > Jeanette > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

OK - now, I have another lead on my 1871 marriage. March 30 1871 Hamilton County Il (it is listed in their index book at the courthouse in McLeansboro; however, the records are missing!) Charles Hutchcraft wed Mary Jane Drew Can anyone check either of these books for more information? Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com Ford County, Il volunteer

Shirley - I didn't think there were ANY Hamilton County vitals on the State site? I'm anxious to learn from the Felty book and/or the Harrelson book. Any copies laying around? Gail Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com Ford County, Il volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeeandBop31@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] 1871 marriage > IL State Marriage Records for Hamilton County? I find it a good game on that > site to enter a query about a common surname (no first name) of Hamilton > County. See what comes up. No Millers. No Malones. No Nations. How about a > common name like Smith? Only one, from 1822. They used to have Hamilton Co. up > to either 1854 (the date Felty's book of Hamilton Co. marriages went through) > or 1870 (from Harrelson's book). When the site was revamped, all of Hamilton > Co. marriages seemed to disappear. Well, I did find that one Smith marriage! > I'd like to know what other Hamilton Co. marriages, if any, are actually > available on that site. > Shirley > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jeanette - care to play detective and find this for me? Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug Ford County, Il volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: <Yoricat@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] 1871 marriage > Hamilton County did not allow their records to be placed in the > Illinois State Marriage Index. However, there was a book of marriages done several > years ago by a resident in Hamilton Co. He is now deceased but the book is > still arround. I believe it was Ralph Harrelson who did the book. The last I > heard his widow was still alive. > > Jeanette > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

IL State Marriage Records for Hamilton County? I find it a good game on that site to enter a query about a common surname (no first name) of Hamilton County. See what comes up. No Millers. No Malones. No Nations. How about a common name like Smith? Only one, from 1822. They used to have Hamilton Co. up to either 1854 (the date Felty's book of Hamilton Co. marriages went through) or 1870 (from Harrelson's book). When the site was revamped, all of Hamilton Co. marriages seemed to disappear. Well, I did find that one Smith marriage! I'd like to know what other Hamilton Co. marriages, if any, are actually available on that site. Shirley

Hamilton County did not allow their records to be placed in the Illinois State Marriage Index. However, there was a book of marriages done several years ago by a resident in Hamilton Co. He is now deceased but the book is still arround. I believe it was Ralph Harrelson who did the book. The last I heard his widow was still alive. Jeanette

Have you tried the IL state marriage records? Their site is: http://www.sos.state.il.us/GenealogyMWeb/refform.html Go to databases and scroll down to the marriages. You can enter a statewide search or county search. Be aware of the misspellings of surnames. It can give you a date. Good luck. Helen Zuber Keusch forever searching in the LAND, EDWARDS, WOFFORD, REEVES, MULLINIKS, CRABTREE, GOODWIN, CHAPMAN, BENNETT, ZUBER, BANGERT, ANTHIS, GOODART-GUTEKUNST, BANGERT, EAKINS, FORD-FOARD, SANDEFUR, MELTON, HANDLEY, EZELL, WALCUP, THOMASSON, and DUNCAN families. On hubby's side-- lines of KEUSCH, ZIMMERMANN, MEHRINGER, SCHITTER/SCHUETTER, SCHMITT, HOCHGESANG, HOPF, and BURGER (Dubois CO, IN). ----- Original Message ----- From: "ladybug" <ladybug@arends-sons.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] 1871 marriage > My husband just learned in Hamilton County courthouse that records for 1871 (marriages) and surrounding years are missing from the courthouse - stolen, they say. Does anyone have any idea where to check next for a wedding that took place in HCI in March of 1871? > Charles Hutchcraft and Mary Jane Drew? > ladybug@arends-sons.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Christine, did any of those HART family members go up to Macoupin County? There are several HART families in Macoupin that I connect with via marriages., particularly a David Hart III b. 1802 from Mercer Co KY. I have some information on David's descendants but nothing further back than David. Carol Dugger Rio Vista CA

My husband just learned in Hamilton County courthouse that records for 1871 (marriages) and surrounding years are missing from the courthouse - stolen, they say. Does anyone have any idea where to check next for a wedding that took place in HCI in March of 1871? Charles Hutchcraft and Mary Jane Drew? ladybug@arends-sons.com

On the IL Statewide marriage Index, the Hamilton Co. list includes only 1821-1824. To find all marriages starting with "M", for example, enter only the first letter. There aren't mnay. --- BeeandBop31@aol.com wrote: > IL State Marriage Records for Hamilton County? > I find it a good game on that > site to enter a query about a common surname > (no first name) of Hamilton > County. See what comes up. No Millers. No > Malones. No Nations. How about a > common name like Smith? Only one, from 1822. > They used to have Hamilton Co. up > to either 1854 (the date Felty's book of > Hamilton Co. marriages went through) > or 1870 (from Harrelson's book). When the site > was revamped, all of Hamilton > Co. marriages seemed to disappear. Well, I did > find that one Smith marriage! > I'd like to know what other Hamilton Co. > marriages, if any, are actually > available on that site. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com