What proof of John's birth in Edinburgh do you have? Jody ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Robert Bruce > Laurel, I thought we had connected up the two Bruce families already? Your > Robert Bruce (b. 1764 , Culpeper Co VA) was the brother of my William b. > 1762 and their father was John Bruce b. abt 1740 in Edinburgh, Scotland who > married Mary Smith. Correct me if I am wrong. > > Carol Dugger > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Laurel, I thought we had connected up the two Bruce families already? Your Robert Bruce (b. 1764 , Culpeper Co VA) was the brother of my William b. 1762 and their father was John Bruce b. abt 1740 in Edinburgh, Scotland who married Mary Smith. Correct me if I am wrong. Carol Dugger

<OH, do you have any knowledge Henry Wilkerson and Mary "Polly" Bruce daughter of Michael D. Bruce. I'm going back into the 1700's now. Not sure of location other than Henry Wilkerson was b. 1764 in Albemarie Va. His daughter Rachel m. and lived in Jefferson Co. Mt. Vernon IL.> Janean, I have no information about the above Bruce family or the Wilkersons. There were a lot of Bruces floating around the USA in those early days and I personally haven't sorted them out. Carol

Just putting my names out there since these boards are active right now. Janean White Co. Skiles, Smith, Wilson, Adams, Harris Jefferson Co. Crosnoe, Carpenter, Wilkerson, Anderson (maybe), Elliot, Stockton

To the best of my knowledge it is. There is also a Carmi cemetery and a Maple Ridge. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Crooks" <thecrooks@peoplestel.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > Is West Union Cemetery the same was Union Cemetery? I have a partial copy of > "Cemeteries of White County, Illinois" Volume 1, and it lists Union > Cemetery, but not West Union. There are no Bruces listed there. I've been to > West Union and don't recall seeing any Bruces there either. Benjamin F. and > Tabitha Bruce are also not listed to be buried in Ebenezer or Mt. Oval > Cemeteries. I've also looked around in Hazel Ridge cemetery and unless they > are in an unmarked grave, or have a stone so deteriorated as to not be > easily read, they are not there either. > > Carol, I know we've corresponded before. Can you remind me of your Bruce > line? My line is from Benjamin Jasper Bruce, son of Isaac Jones Bruce. If I > come across anything, I'll be sure to let you know. > > Good luck!! > Laurel Crook > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > > > > Enfield is in White Co. They could be buried in West Union Cemetery. My > > family was from Enfield and that is where they are buried. > > > > Janean > > > > OH, do you have any knowledge Henry Wilkerson and Mary "Polly" Bruce > > daughter of Michael D. Bruce. I'm going back into the 1700's now. Not > sure > > of location other than Henry Wilkerson was b. 1764 in Albemarie Va. His > > daughter Rachel m. and lived in Jefferson Co. Mt. Vernon IL. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> > > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:25 PM > > Subject: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me where Benjamin F. BRUCE and his wife Tabitha Stephens > > > BRUCE are buried? They lived in Enfield but I am not sure if that is in > > > White Co. or Gallatin Co. I would assume that they were buried in the > > > Enfield Cemetery but don't know this for sure. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Carol Dugger > > > Rio Vista, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Laurel, What the database from Carl Shelton shows is that Isaac Jones Bruce was a descendent of Robert Bruce, born about 1764. His father was John Bruce b. 1742 and Mary Smith. Benjamin F. who married Tabitha Stephens is supposed to be a descendent of the brother of Robert, named Benjamin Bruce Sr., b. 1768. Of course, this database is unsourced so there is no way to confirm all the information. You should check the Gallatin Co. site for the Bruce family members listed there. West Union and Union cemetery are different, as is West Union, but all are located in White County. Hazel Ridge, which also has some Bruces, is actually just over the Gallatin Co. line. Cindy The Crooks wrote: > > That depends on which Bruce line. There are two lines in the area, > supposedly not connected, but I'm determined to find a connection down the > line somewhere. :-) Anyhow, there are lots of other Bruces buried throughout > White Co., in Ebenezer, Mt. Oval, Hazel Ridge, and possibly other > cemeteries. I'm not familiar with the Bruces buried in Ridgway. Do you have > a listing of who those are?

That depends on which Bruce line. There are two lines in the area, supposedly not connected, but I'm determined to find a connection down the line somewhere. :-) Anyhow, there are lots of other Bruces buried throughout White Co., in Ebenezer, Mt. Oval, Hazel Ridge, and possibly other cemeteries. I'm not familiar with the Bruces buried in Ridgway. Do you have a listing of who those are? I just know that there used to be an older gentleman who came to our family reunion who was a Bruce, but not connected to our line. He just liked to come and enjoyed the company. I'm not sure if he's still living because I've not seen him in years. The Bruces were in Sumner Co., Tenn., before moving to Southeast Ill. One set moved up there around 1815-1817, and I think another set moved up there years later. I'm not sure of all the details, just that I'm descended from the first set. That set was Robert Bruce and his son Isaac Jones Bruce, father of Benjamin Jasper Bruce, my 3g-grandfather. Laurel Crook ----- Original Message ----- From: "cindy" <cbconly@midwest.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > Carol, > > Just about all the Bruce family members are buried at Crawford > Campground cemetery near Ridgway. I am pretty sure these Bruces are > there. You can check this out at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/listings.htm > > There are also lots of Bruce family members at a cemetery near Omaha, > not many in White County. > > Cindy > > Carol Dugger wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me where Benjamin F. BRUCE and his wife Tabitha Stephens > > BRUCE are buried? They lived in Enfield but I am not sure if that is in > > White Co. or Gallatin Co. I would assume that they were buried in the > > Enfield Cemetery but don't know this for sure. >

Is West Union Cemetery the same was Union Cemetery? I have a partial copy of "Cemeteries of White County, Illinois" Volume 1, and it lists Union Cemetery, but not West Union. There are no Bruces listed there. I've been to West Union and don't recall seeing any Bruces there either. Benjamin F. and Tabitha Bruce are also not listed to be buried in Ebenezer or Mt. Oval Cemeteries. I've also looked around in Hazel Ridge cemetery and unless they are in an unmarked grave, or have a stone so deteriorated as to not be easily read, they are not there either. Carol, I know we've corresponded before. Can you remind me of your Bruce line? My line is from Benjamin Jasper Bruce, son of Isaac Jones Bruce. If I come across anything, I'll be sure to let you know. Good luck!! Laurel Crook ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > Enfield is in White Co. They could be buried in West Union Cemetery. My > family was from Enfield and that is where they are buried. > > Janean > > OH, do you have any knowledge Henry Wilkerson and Mary "Polly" Bruce > daughter of Michael D. Bruce. I'm going back into the 1700's now. Not sure > of location other than Henry Wilkerson was b. 1764 in Albemarie Va. His > daughter Rachel m. and lived in Jefferson Co. Mt. Vernon IL. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:25 PM > Subject: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > > > > Can anyone tell me where Benjamin F. BRUCE and his wife Tabitha Stephens > > BRUCE are buried? They lived in Enfield but I am not sure if that is in > > White Co. or Gallatin Co. I would assume that they were buried in the > > Enfield Cemetery but don't know this for sure. > > > > Thanks, > > Carol Dugger > > Rio Vista, CA > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________

Cindy and Janean, thanks for your input on the Bruce graves. I will check the Gallatin Co Cemetery lists and see what I come up with, though I don't think I found these particular Bruces listed on it last time I was looking at it. Sorting out those Bruce families is an absolute nightmare and now I see why I have put off doing much Bruce research until now! Carol

Enfield is in White Co. They could be buried in West Union Cemetery. My family was from Enfield and that is where they are buried. Janean OH, do you have any knowledge Henry Wilkerson and Mary "Polly" Bruce daughter of Michael D. Bruce. I'm going back into the 1700's now. Not sure of location other than Henry Wilkerson was b. 1764 in Albemarie Va. His daughter Rachel m. and lived in Jefferson Co. Mt. Vernon IL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] BRUCE > Can anyone tell me where Benjamin F. BRUCE and his wife Tabitha Stephens > BRUCE are buried? They lived in Enfield but I am not sure if that is in > White Co. or Gallatin Co. I would assume that they were buried in the > Enfield Cemetery but don't know this for sure. > > Thanks, > Carol Dugger > Rio Vista, CA > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Carol, Just about all the Bruce family members are buried at Crawford Campground cemetery near Ridgway. I am pretty sure these Bruces are there. You can check this out at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/listings.htm There are also lots of Bruce family members at a cemetery near Omaha, not many in White County. Cindy Carol Dugger wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where Benjamin F. BRUCE and his wife Tabitha Stephens > BRUCE are buried? They lived in Enfield but I am not sure if that is in > White Co. or Gallatin Co. I would assume that they were buried in the > Enfield Cemetery but don't know this for sure.

Can anyone tell me where Benjamin F. BRUCE and his wife Tabitha Stephens BRUCE are buried? They lived in Enfield but I am not sure if that is in White Co. or Gallatin Co. I would assume that they were buried in the Enfield Cemetery but don't know this for sure. Thanks, Carol Dugger Rio Vista, CA

Looking for photos of the following folk. PLEASE let me know if you can help, it would be GREATLY appreciated. Just jpegs are fine. JOHN WILLIAM BAKER SENIOR 1865-1934 LOUELLA STIFF NORMAN 1872-1908 JULIA CAROLYN PARKER 1862-1945 JAMES JASPER BAKER 1843-1905 FRANCIS AMANDA HORNING 1834-1922 JOB CALVIN RISTER 1865-1943 SARAH SAMANTHA JONES 1871-1942 (WILLIAM JACKSON JONES 1817- ???) (MARY JANE CAMPBELL 1834-1905) MARY ELVA RISTER 1890-??? OSA L LUCAS ELVIS CLYDE RISTER 1892-1974 MAGGIE YATES 1894-1950 Anything on these folks is greatly appreciated. Along with anything on related folks, blood or marriage. My thanks steve sspunk@aol.com

Anyone have a Lewis Bond m. Rachel Wilkerson Crosnoe in 1860 Jefferson Co.? Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "ladybug" <ladybug@arends-sons.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Captain John Bond b. 1816 > Captain John Bond b 1816 KY > married Elizabeth Daily 1838 > Elizabeth Daily Bond died 1877 HCI > > John married secondly to Catherine Dickson Hammer > in 1878 @ Delafield in HCI. > Catherine is not even mentioned in obituary of John Bond when he died 6-25-1899 in HCI. > Would like to know something about her? > Her father was listed as Willilam Dickson on the marriage certificate. > Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

George Daily b. 1816-1822? married Mary Charlotte Crisel Hutchcraft 5-23-1858 in HCI by John S. Kinnear, JP. One known son, Silas Daily b. 1859 married Malinda Hullinger as was a school teacher. They had two sons, Milton Daily , b. 1888 and Cullen Daily b. 1889 Any descendant to correspond with? Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com

Captain John Bond b 1816 KY married Elizabeth Daily 1838 Elizabeth Daily Bond died 1877 HCI John married secondly to Catherine Dickson Hammer in 1878 @ Delafield in HCI. Catherine is not even mentioned in obituary of John Bond when he died 6-25-1899 in HCI. Would like to know something about her? Her father was listed as Willilam Dickson on the marriage certificate. Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com

I am looking for anyone who is researching this family Judge William Wilson b. 1794 Loudoun Co. Va. m. 1820 Mary S. Davidson Children: Dr. William H. Wilson John Cook Wilson Robert Davidson Wilson Charles J.F. Wilson Phillip King Wilson Mary Illinois Wilson Margaret Eleanor Wilson Thomas K. Wilson Susan Jane Wilson Byron Wilson

I am passing this link along to those list that I have which could be interested in Kentucky names. If you have anyone you wish to pass it on to please do. This is a great list of marriages. http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:PaXkieN8mlsJ:hill-ky.org/tingle/TinglePDF/KyMar.pdf+%22Lucy+Powell%22+Wilson+virginia&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 If that doesn't work try; http://hill-ky.org/tingle/TinglePDF/KyMar.pdf

Just inquiring..... I sent a test e-mail out to a couple of my lists that had been pretty quiet. This one and another one took 3 days for me to receive it back. Wonder why? Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> To: <CHINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: [CHINN] Just testing > No response required. Just testing my lists that I haven't had any activity on. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I've "rescued" an old photograph album which appears to have belonged to the FASSNACHT Family and includes photographs identified as FASSNACHT, STUBER, and DEAL Family members. Most of the photographs are from South Bend, Indiana, however, others are from Carmi, Illinois; Falls City, Nebraska; and Michawaka, Indiana. Most of the photographs were taken in the 1870's to early 1900's and are all studio photographs. The album contains a total of 23 photographs including the following identified as: 1. Memorial Card for Mary E. FASSNACHT d. 11 March 1896 at age 13 yrs, 6 mon, 12 days 2. Two copies of a photograph of Louise STUBER FASSNACHT and her "unidentified" spouse, taken at the McDonald Studio in South Bend, Indiana, notes that Louise is about 40 years of age at the time and that the photograph was taken before Amelia was born, probably taken in the 1880's or 1890's 3. Photograph of Martha FASSNACHT, no studio location, probably taken in the 1890's, name "Mrs. Willis DEAL" also appears on the back of the photograph as if it might have been gifted to her, Martha seems to appear in other unidentified photographs throughout the album, including one which appears to be a photograph of three siblings (two female and one male) I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old treasure can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley