Mixed persons - any races - were often listed as mulatto. See the following site for one discussion of this subject. http://www.martygrant.com/gen/origins/race-codes.htm --- SSpunk@aol.com wrote: > Question regarding race on census pre 1900. > > IF the father was white & mother Indian how > would they have listed the > children ????? > WOULD this be different if the Father was > Indian and the mother white ??? > WOULD they have listed the Father if he was > Indian pre 1840 ?? Mixed ?? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

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Cindy: I haven't been in White Co. website recently and forget.. are those cemeteries on line and have they been walked off? I believe most of my family is in West Union Cemetery but can't remember if I've checked. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "cindy" <cbconly@midwest.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Cemeteries > Norm, > > The big Carmi cemetery is Maple Ridge. There are Walnut Grove and Orange > Grove in the country, as well as Oak Grove near Grayville. Maple Grove > doesn't ring a bell. > > Cindy > > Norman Gidcumb wrote: > > > > I have two listings for cemeteries in Carmi, Maple Ridge and Maple Grove. > > Are they one of the same or are there two in Carmi? Which one is right? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, If you have SC ancestors you might check out this sight for land grants and other information. I have several families that came this way. http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/ Cindy

Hi all, >From the Vanderburgh County list I got this interesting comment about how immigrants got to Southern Indiana: "Three routes brought German immigrants to Indiana: (1) by landing at New York and continuing by way of the Great Lakes and the canals, (2) by landing at Baltimore and traveling overland by wagon for 2 weeks to Wheeling, West Virginia, then by boat down the Ohio River, and (3) by way of the Mississippi River. The second route was the safest, also the most expensive. The first route was so hazardous that Lake Erie was called the German graveyard. The voyage by way of the Mississippi River was also hazardous. The paddle boats had to go upstream and some of the boilers overheated and exploded, the boats burned, and the loss of life and possessions was heavy. Some boats sank, some were caught on sand bars and jetties. However, almost all of the immigrants came this way. It cost about half as much to come by way of New Orleans as by way of the Great Lakes. Most Knox County settlers came via the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers, then by wagon from Evansville." HTH Cindy

Here are all the Maple Grove cemeteries in IN according to GNIS. This may not include some old small family cemeteries, especially if they no longer exist. Maple Grove Cemetery IN Clay cemetery 391735N 0870729W Clay City Maple Grove Cemetery IN Clay cemetery 391735N 0870738W Saline City Maple Grove Cemetery IN Franklin cemetery 392518N 0850118W Brookville Maple Grove Cemetery IN Grant cemetery 403523N 0854610W Sweetser Maple Grove Cemetery IN Huntington cemetery 405404N 0853536W Bippus Maple Grove Cemetery IN LaGrange cemetery 413129N 0853425W Topeka Maple Grove Cemetery IN Marshall cemetery 411439N 0861358W Argos Maple Grove Cemetery IN Warrick cemetery 380204N 0871631W Boonville You can check them out, see maps of their locations, etc. at the GNIS site: http://geonames.usgs.gov/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

By the way, is there anyone in Carmi that would be willing to check and see if there is more to this obit? abstract of obituaries from the Carmi (Illinois) Times from 1896. reads as follows. 1896 Apr. 29 Carmi Times Glennie G. Gidcomb d/o Joseph Gidcomb. Burial Fri. Maple Grove.

Cindy, This is the piece from the paper, abstract of obituary from the Carmi (Illinois) Times from 1896. reads as follows. 1896 Apr. 29 Carmi Times Glennie G. Gidcomb d/o Joseph Gidcomb. Burial Fri. Maple Grove. Parents Joseph and Martha both buried Maple Ridge Cemetery.

Do you know where this Maple Grove is? Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: GeeMaw32@aol.com To: gkeusch@psci.net Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [INPOSEY] Maple Grove Cemetery There is a Maple Grove in Carmi across the river in IL.

This will muddy the waters more-- I checked on the site with rootsweb on the Vanderburgh Cem and there is no Maple Grove. I found the site by going into google.com and putting in Vanderburgh County Indiana cemeteries and then clicking on the first or second site-- both are the same. This site doesn't tell you who is buried where, but lists the cemeteries and where they are. Maybe Posey or Gibson might have a Maple Grove. Seems the Posey and Gibson County folk migrated a lot into IL. Good luck. Helen Zuber Keusch forever searching in the LAND, EDWARDS, WOFFORD, REEVES, MULLINIKS, CRABTREE, GOODWIN, CHAPMAN, BENNETT, ZUBER, BANGERT, ANTHIS, GOODART-GUTEKUNST, BANGERT, EAKINS, FORD-FOARD, SANDEFUR, MELTON, HANDLEY, EZELL, WALCUP, THOMASSON, and DUNCAN families. On hubby's side-- lines of KEUSCH, ZIMMERMANN, MEHRINGER, SCHITTER/SCHUETTER, SCHMITT, HOCHGESANG, HOPF, and BURGER (Dubois CO, IN). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Davis" <patdavis@midwest.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Cemeteries > Hi Norm - > > To add confusion to the mix: > > I believe there's a Maple Grove Cemetery "across the border" -- in > Evansville, IN, which quite a few Illinois folks chose as their final > resting place. > > Pat Davis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Norman Gidcumb" <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:00 PM > Subject: [ILWHITE] Cemeteries > > > > I have two listings for cemeteries in Carmi, Maple Ridge and Maple Grove. > > Are they one of the same or are there two in Carmi? Which one is right? > > > > Norm > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Norm - To add confusion to the mix: I believe there's a Maple Grove Cemetery "across the border" -- in Evansville, IN, which quite a few Illinois folks chose as their final resting place. Pat Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: " Norman Gidcumb" <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Cemeteries > I have two listings for cemeteries in Carmi, Maple Ridge and Maple Grove. > Are they one of the same or are there two in Carmi? Which one is right? > > Norm > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Norm, That far back the name of the cemetery was probably pretty fluid. As far as I can tell, Maple Ridge was established around 1890 as the Old Cemetery was getting full and folks liked the new cemetery on a hill west of Carmi. I think the Catholic cemetery adjacent to the public cemetery might predate the larger burial ground, but not by much. If you give us the name we can see if the person is listed on any of our cemetery listings. Cindy Norman Gidcumb wrote: > > Thanks to all. > > I have an obit from the Carmi paper 1896 which referred to Maple Grove > Cemetery is why I asked. Thanks again.

Thanks to all. I have an obit from the Carmi paper 1896 which referred to Maple Grove Cemetery is why I asked. Thanks again. Norm

I have two listings for cemeteries in Carmi, Maple Ridge and Maple Grove. Are they one of the same or are there two in Carmi? Which one is right? Norm

Norm, The big Carmi cemetery is Maple Ridge. There are Walnut Grove and Orange Grove in the country, as well as Oak Grove near Grayville. Maple Grove doesn't ring a bell. Cindy Norman Gidcumb wrote: > > I have two listings for cemeteries in Carmi, Maple Ridge and Maple Grove. > Are they one of the same or are there two in Carmi? Which one is right?

One other remote possibility: there were or are Maple Grove Cemeteries in several other counties in IL - Henderson, Kankakee, De Witt, Iroquois and Henry Cos. Could burial have been somewhere other than in White Co.? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

I am interested in William Jackson Jones as two of my Joneses were in Burnt Prarie. They were William H Jones and his brothers James R and John Raulston Jones as well as their first cousin Prettyman Jones all born in Tennessee. In a message dated 11/14/2003 1:56:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, SSpunk@aol.com writes: > Does anyone have access to Obits from 1905 ?? > > Looking for Mary Jane Campbell Jones 1/26/1905 The campbell maybe an m1 > > She was the wife of William Jackson Jones. They were in Burnt Prarie in 1870 > > and she is in Enfield in 1880. > I could also use any data on William or the kids. D. Mitchell Jones http://www.dmitchelljones.org

There is a Maple Ridge Cem., listed on the USGS's online GNIS system, in White Co. It is immediately west of Carmi, or on the western edge of town. They do not list a Maple Grove Cem. In fact, they list no feature named Maple Grove anywhere in White Co. Perhaps it was an old cemetery no longer in existence - at least not recorded on GNIS. Or it may have been a mistake in memory or transcription. --- Norman Gidcumb <ngidcumb@bearlake-net.com> wrote: > I have two listings for cemeteries in Carmi, > Maple Ridge and Maple Grove. > Are they one of the same or are there two in > Carmi? Which one is right? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

don't know if I've talked to any of you before but I have just a couple of Millers from White Co. Luther Marion Miller and Rose Edith Foster w/do Blanche Marie Miller b. 1894 m. 1911 to John Pender Smith Sr. of Carmi. I also have a couple of Millers from Jefferson Co. Mt. Vernon area. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: <SSpunk@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:57 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Re: Rister/Miller > In a message dated 11/13/2003 9:43:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ILWHITE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > MILLER MARTIN 32 M W IL IL WHITE ENFIELD > TWP 1900 > > Miller, Martin, head, b Sep 1868 IL, parents b > IL, md 9 yrs, farmer > Flora, wife, b Mar? 1874 IL, parents > b IN, md 9 yrs, 4 children (4 living): > Oto M. 8 > Flossie J. 6 > Grasie F. 4 > Perry P. 1 > >>>>> > Color me Red. I don't have this one. Who did she belong to ?? > > steve > sspunk@aol.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Does anyone have access to Obits from 1905 ?? Looking for Mary Jane Campbell Jones 1/26/1905 The campbell maybe an m1 She was the wife of William Jackson Jones. They were in Burnt Prarie in 1870 and she is in Enfield in 1880. I could also use any data on William or the kids. thanks steve sspunk@aol.com