I am looking for the following from Illinois and/or Virginia John M. Wilson b. 1811 near Bull Run Prince Wm. Co Mary E. Wilson sister Parents Jacob Wilson and Margaret King (mother nee Kearney related to Gen. Phil Kearney) Cousin to Jacob was Judge William Wilson b. 1794 in Loudoun Co. and became Illinois Supreme Court Justice Ruth Wilson Dillon that wrote the Chinn Book is the granddaughter of Harriet Lucy Wilson and Charles James Fox Wilson. Charles was the son of Judge William Wilson and Harriet was the daughter of John Stretchley Wilson son of John Wilson and Elizabeth Chinn. MY BRICK WALL In the Wilson Story also by Ruth Dillon about my brick wall John Wilson, it talks about a letter and "your Uncle Jacob Wilson" and also says there was a Jacob Wilson in early Carmi that married a King but no relationship was established as of then. One of Judge Wilson's boys wrote to his mother about "Cousin Lucy Crebs" This Lucy Crebs is the daughter of John Wilson my brick wall. I believe John and Jacob Wilson are brothers and the father would be William Wilson. There is a mention that there might be an Uncle Silas but don't know if that is a Wilson or not. I believe they had a brother William. So Judge William Wilson is their nephew. I think that could be brother William's son. Whoever his father was he died when Jg. William was young leaving mom and another brother. He was b. 1794 in Loudoun Co. It is said the Jacob Wilson's family came from Pennsylvania. Jacob lived in PW Co. and that is where John was born. Then they moved to Jefferson Co. Va. (W.Va) and onward to White Co. IL in 1828 spending the winter with cousin Judge William Wilson. These boys are related, hoping someone knows something. Janean

Actually I meant that for the monthly posting thingy. BEST steve sspunk@aol.com

Hi all, This is an interesting ebay item with William Wilson involved: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2965606024&category=689 Cindy

Interested in this Wilson family. Also, what do you have on Harmon and where were they from. WILSON, ADAMS, SKILES, SMITH, MARLIN Enfield and Carmi White Co. Illinois. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: <KinDetective@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Re: QUERIES & WILSON > > Well, Steve, & others: > I'm not at my home desk now, but... > As for RISTER et al. families, all too numerous to remember... > (WILSON, McDANIEL, CREEK/CREIG, NASH, PARRISH, RAMSEY, JONES, FARLEY, > McCALLUM...etc..) > I'm waiting on that marriage film...hopeful it will contain more than what > we've already seen. Knock lots of family tree wood, as I'm not too optimistic > (uncharacteristic for me). > Prolly won't get to see it til week after TG. > > The big mystery combo I *was hoping to solve first was: > Why is Jacob & entire family hiding from the 1850 enumerators? > Where is Jacob's eldest daughter, Lucinda Rister WILSON (John L. b. Posey, > IN) in the 1850, when her first daughter, Margaret Wilson Withrow was to be born > 1849-1850 in IL? You would not believe the spelling creativity I've used to > try and hunt these guys down! > > I did follow up looking for that George Rister as possible father to our > suspected brothers. Nothing so far. Couldn't find one of similar age in the > usual places or surrounds. My guess is 'that' one had died prior to that dern > 1850. > > The usual suspects do pop up in the SC databases in Craven, Granville, > Berkeley & Lexington counties. > Jacob, John, Adam, Abraham, Frederick, George, Christian. > Looking at those gives you a good idea of how many spellings are recorded for > that surname -- many making extremely loose Soundex connections. > Unfortunately no will book records which point to our guys, who like the > treacherous Yankees they forbore, apparently forsook Dixie! > ;-`) > > After the marriage film comes a search for probate (film avail.) & obit on > Jacob (only available locally, if exists). Let me know if you have similar for > Harmon (sorry, my notes at home would tell me where your progress stands on > this, I think). > > I would consider Black Hawk War papers if I had recommendation from > experienced researchers that these may prove fruitful. > Whaddya think? > Di > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Well, Steve, & others: I'm not at my home desk now, but... As for RISTER et al. families, all too numerous to remember... (WILSON, McDANIEL, CREEK/CREIG, NASH, PARRISH, RAMSEY, JONES, FARLEY, McCALLUM...etc..) I'm waiting on that marriage film...hopeful it will contain more than what we've already seen. Knock lots of family tree wood, as I'm not too optimistic (uncharacteristic for me). Prolly won't get to see it til week after TG. The big mystery combo I *was hoping to solve first was: Why is Jacob & entire family hiding from the 1850 enumerators? Where is Jacob's eldest daughter, Lucinda Rister WILSON (John L. b. Posey, IN) in the 1850, when her first daughter, Margaret Wilson Withrow was to be born 1849-1850 in IL? You would not believe the spelling creativity I've used to try and hunt these guys down! I did follow up looking for that George Rister as possible father to our suspected brothers. Nothing so far. Couldn't find one of similar age in the usual places or surrounds. My guess is 'that' one had died prior to that dern 1850. The usual suspects do pop up in the SC databases in Craven, Granville, Berkeley & Lexington counties. Jacob, John, Adam, Abraham, Frederick, George, Christian. Looking at those gives you a good idea of how many spellings are recorded for that surname -- many making extremely loose Soundex connections. Unfortunately no will book records which point to our guys, who like the treacherous Yankees they forbore, apparently forsook Dixie! ;-`) After the marriage film comes a search for probate (film avail.) & obit on Jacob (only available locally, if exists). Let me know if you have similar for Harmon (sorry, my notes at home would tell me where your progress stands on this, I think). I would consider Black Hawk War papers if I had recommendation from experienced researchers that these may prove fruitful. Whaddya think? Di

none of those names ring bells. Wish they did. You don't know where they originally came from do you? Mine came from Ky and Va. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geri" <geri@beecreek.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Jonathan (John) Wilson > This is all the information I have on Jonathan Wilson and his wife Eliza > Gunter. > > Elizabeth Wilson bn February 10, 1849/1852, Carmi, White Co., Il died Jne > 22, 1928 Edwards Co., Il was married to William Hallam June 2, 1882, Edwards > Co., Il. Their children were: Oscal Allen Hallam, Earnest Theodore Hallam, > Elizabeth Constance Hallam, Bessie C. Hallam and Connie Hallam. > > Amanda Jane Wilson bn Steptember 13, 1853, Posey Co., In died March 28, > 1933, Edwards Co., Il. married Thomas Nathaniel Cullison April 21, 1872, > Albion, Edwards Co., Il. They had: Hattie Cullison, Mark, Joseph C. Ira > Jonathan, Flossie, James Evert, Alpha May, all born in or near Edwards Co., > IL. > > Wish I could get to White, Wayne and Edwards Co. Il Can't do it. I live > in TX and take care of my mom. > > Thanks for any help or advice. > > Geri > geri@beecreek.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Jonathan (John) Wilson > > > > Interested in anything you have on Wilsons in Carmi. That is where my > > Wilsons are from. > > > > Janean > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Geri" <geri@beecreek.net> > > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:32 PM > > Subject: [ILWHITE] Jonathan (John) Wilson > > > > > > > Data shows he was born White Co., IL as was his wife Eliza Gunter - no > > proof > > > of this or any other information > > > > > > Daughter: Elizabeth Wilson > > > bn: February 10, 1852, Carmi, White County, IL > > > > > > bn: February 10, 1949, > > > > > > died: June 22, 1928, Edwards Co. Illinois > > > > > > Daughter: Amanda Jane Wilson (Cullison) > > > > > > bn: September 13, 1853, Posey Co., IN (have no idea if this is true it > > was > > > on the death certificate -information from her youngest son) > > > > > > died: March 28, 1933, Edwards Co., Illinois > > > > > > Any information on any of the above names would be fantastic! They are > my > > > brick wall. > > > Geri Cullison Lilley > > > geri@beecreek.net > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Interested in anything you have on Wilsons in Carmi. That is where my Wilsons are from. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geri" <geri@beecreek.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Jonathan (John) Wilson > Data shows he was born White Co., IL as was his wife Eliza Gunter - no proof > of this or any other information > > Daughter: Elizabeth Wilson > bn: February 10, 1852, Carmi, White County, IL > > bn: February 10, 1949, > > died: June 22, 1928, Edwards Co. Illinois > > Daughter: Amanda Jane Wilson (Cullison) > > bn: September 13, 1853, Posey Co., IN (have no idea if this is true it was > on the death certificate -information from her youngest son) > > died: March 28, 1933, Edwards Co., Illinois > > Any information on any of the above names would be fantastic! They are my > brick wall. > Geri Cullison Lilley > geri@beecreek.net > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is all the information I have on Jonathan Wilson and his wife Eliza Gunter. Elizabeth Wilson bn February 10, 1849/1852, Carmi, White Co., Il died Jne 22, 1928 Edwards Co., Il was married to William Hallam June 2, 1882, Edwards Co., Il. Their children were: Oscal Allen Hallam, Earnest Theodore Hallam, Elizabeth Constance Hallam, Bessie C. Hallam and Connie Hallam. Amanda Jane Wilson bn Steptember 13, 1853, Posey Co., In died March 28, 1933, Edwards Co., Il. married Thomas Nathaniel Cullison April 21, 1872, Albion, Edwards Co., Il. They had: Hattie Cullison, Mark, Joseph C. Ira Jonathan, Flossie, James Evert, Alpha May, all born in or near Edwards Co., IL. Wish I could get to White, Wayne and Edwards Co. Il Can't do it. I live in TX and take care of my mom. Thanks for any help or advice. Geri geri@beecreek.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Jonathan (John) Wilson > Interested in anything you have on Wilsons in Carmi. That is where my > Wilsons are from. > > Janean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geri" <geri@beecreek.net> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:32 PM > Subject: [ILWHITE] Jonathan (John) Wilson > > > > Data shows he was born White Co., IL as was his wife Eliza Gunter - no > proof > > of this or any other information > > > > Daughter: Elizabeth Wilson > > bn: February 10, 1852, Carmi, White County, IL > > > > bn: February 10, 1949, > > > > died: June 22, 1928, Edwards Co. Illinois > > > > Daughter: Amanda Jane Wilson (Cullison) > > > > bn: September 13, 1853, Posey Co., IN (have no idea if this is true it > was > > on the death certificate -information from her youngest son) > > > > died: March 28, 1933, Edwards Co., Illinois > > > > Any information on any of the above names would be fantastic! They are my > > brick wall. > > Geri Cullison Lilley > > geri@beecreek.net > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Did I send something with Rister on it??? I'm confused. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Thikaben@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Re: QUERIES > There are several Rister (that spelling) mentions in this site for Gallatin > County -- generally in the New Haven area. > > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.root sweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

There are several Rister (that spelling) mentions in this site for Gallatin County -- generally in the New Haven area. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A>

Looking for information on Jacob Wilson and wife Margaret King. Son, John M. Wilson Clerk of Courts Richland Co. Daughter Mary E. Wilson m. William B. Shelby Janean

Data shows he was born White Co., IL as was his wife Eliza Gunter - no proof of this or any other information Daughter: Elizabeth Wilson bn: February 10, 1852, Carmi, White County, IL bn: February 10, 1949, died: June 22, 1928, Edwards Co. Illinois Daughter: Amanda Jane Wilson (Cullison) bn: September 13, 1853, Posey Co., IN (have no idea if this is true it was on the death certificate -information from her youngest son) died: March 28, 1933, Edwards Co., Illinois Any information on any of the above names would be fantastic! They are my brick wall. Geri Cullison Lilley geri@beecreek.net

There are several Rister (that spelling) mentions in this site for Gallatin County -- generally in the New Haven area. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/bennettjournal.html</A>

RISTER RIESTER REISTER RESTER AND ALL OTHER VARIATIONS BRING'M ON !! STEVE SSPUNK@AOL.COM

Looking for Jacob Wilson and Margaret King Judge William Wilson and Mary Davidson John M. Wilson, Clerk of Courts Carmi Illinois Thanks Janean

You gave no date range <tsk, tsk>, but there were no Risters (exact spelling) in White Co. in 1860 and 1870 census indexes. You can check for 1880 ones at familysearch.org - it has Soundex, I don't, so I didn't do other spellings. Here are the RISTERs in White Co. in 1900: RISTER ABRAHAM 24 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER AMARA 27 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER FRANK 39 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER GEORGE W 29 M W IL IL WHITE GRAY TWP RISTER JAMES 66 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER JAMES 53 M W IL IL WHITE GRAY TWP RISTER MARY 62 F W IN IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP And here are the ones from 1910: RISTER ABRAHAM 34 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER CHINECIE 30 F W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER EDMOND J 25 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER FRANK 49 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER MARTHA 15 F W IL IL WHITE GRAY TWP RISTER MARY A 70 F W IN IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER RHODA 18 F W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER UNIS 19 F W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS TWP RISTER WILLIAM C 24 M W IL IL WHITE GRAY TWP ...and 1920: RISTER ABRAHAM 42 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS RISTER EDDIE 35 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS RISTER GEORGE 27 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS RISTER JAMES A 31 M W IL IL WHITE PHILLIPS RISTER JAMES R 17 M W IL IL WHITE PHILLIPS RISTER JOSH 40 M W IL IL WHITE MILL SHOALS RISTER WILLIAM C 34 M W IL IL WHITE ENFIELD RISTER WILLIAM F 58 M W IN IL WHITE MILL SHOALS --- SSpunk@aol.com wrote: > RISTER > RIESTER > REISTER > RESTER > AND ALL OTHER VARIATIONS __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

Hi all - In the excitement of our forthcoming book, "That Which Was and Those Who Were," I forgot to ask for queries for the December "Roots & Branches" -- yoicks and gadzooks! Now I'm asking! Please send your queries to genealogy_society@midwest.net , including your email and your snail mail addresses. You don't have to be a member to have us publish your query, and all are welcome. Please? Pretty please? The deadline is November 20, so hurry! And thanks in advance. Pat Davis

Cindy: Loved the postcards. I bet the Methodist Church in Enfield is where my great-grandmother attended. It was wonderful seeing where my father and grandmother were born. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "cindy" <cbconly@midwest.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Cemeteries > Janean, > > You can get the names of the cemeteries from the Illinois State > Genealogy Society site, but we don't have any of the cemeteries on line. > A few years ago the Historical society set out to do new readings of all > the cemeteries and publish books by township. Only two twps, Gray and > Phillips, are complete and published. We have typed copies of several > other cemeteries, but I don't remember seeing West Union. The project is > proceeding slowly. > > The old 1970s readings have many, many errors and omissions, and are > available through interlibrary loan or at many genealogy libraries. > > I have updated the website a bit lately, mostly by adding old postcards. > Check it out at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwhite2/postcards.html . > > Cindy > > Janean Ray wrote: > > > > Cindy: I haven't been in White Co. website recently and forget.. are those > > cemeteries on line and have they been walked off? I believe most of my > > family is in West Union Cemetery but can't remember if I've checked. Janean > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Janean, You can get the names of the cemeteries from the Illinois State Genealogy Society site, but we don't have any of the cemeteries on line. A few years ago the Historical society set out to do new readings of all the cemeteries and publish books by township. Only two twps, Gray and Phillips, are complete and published. We have typed copies of several other cemeteries, but I don't remember seeing West Union. The project is proceeding slowly. The old 1970s readings have many, many errors and omissions, and are available through interlibrary loan or at many genealogy libraries. I have updated the website a bit lately, mostly by adding old postcards. Check it out at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwhite2/postcards.html . Cindy Janean Ray wrote: > > Cindy: I haven't been in White Co. website recently and forget.. are those > cemeteries on line and have they been walked off? I believe most of my > family is in West Union Cemetery but can't remember if I've checked. Janean

Question regarding race on census pre 1900. IF the father was white & mother Indian how would they have listed the children ????? WOULD this be different if the Father was Indian and the mother white ??? WOULD they have listed the Father if he was Indian pre 1840 ?? Mixed ?? Thanks steve spunk@aol.com