Hello! I feel an obligation to jump in here. I have spent many days in Wayne Co., have met Doris B. (in her home), and own many of her books/pamphlets. She's a very neat lady who won't sell you something that you really "don't need", but will help you refine your search (not like some of the "show" book dealers!). My Wayne Co. ancestors are Cross, Payne, Maulding, Patterson. All of my IL. ancestry is concentrated in Wayne, Marion, and Hamilton counties, and this might assist someone with family "overlap". I live in Ky.-less than 2 hrs from Fairfield. I would like to suggest a "work session", a bit later this spring/summer, where a couple of us "locals" might meet and help some of you out there who are not able to get to the Wayne Co. Courthouse, Salem, Four Mile or Thomason Cems., to name a few. This is just an idea. Let me know what you think. Sandra Brandt -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILWAYNE-L] Cemetery, Land, Other Records - Pre fire - Online or not Liz, Dorris, Sandy, Michael & Others: Thank you all for helping the rest of us begin to understand the records picture for Wayne County! Thank you also for your efforts to build a cache of accessible records for posterity. Liz, your post was particularly heartening. When I first found my connections to the area about a year or more ago, I soon after read on the Wayne County USGenWeb site of the courthouse fire and thought I'd hit a brick wall or dead end, deeming it likely I'd have to make educated guesses and assumptions (not good for a genealogist), to track my folks earlier to KY and SC, and leaving a big gap in documented proof of the historical picture. Boy did my heart sink, as I'm sure it does for everyone who reads of the fire. Now if I could only get *to* Wayne County! <G> If can help future researchers in any way, I'm eager to do so, be it transcriptions, proofreading or lending busy fingers to data entry, scanning (OCR), or providing web space and page building to present data, and any other ways in which I'm able. It looks like Wayne County can use many folks applying the skills of creative ferreting to cull and preserve all the supporting historical data we can acquire. I'm so glad you're all here on the list. My appreciation and admiration goes to anyone who helps maintain a continuity to the Wayne County History. Smiles, Di, AKA Kin (since our listmom is Dianna--no confusion) [email protected] yahoo. com --- In a message dated 1/21/02 1:01:35 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] ....<snip>.... 17 Nov. 1886. I think that there is one index to some deeds prior to that date. ....<snip>.... Also, even though the court house burned, files were saved, but it is my understanding that there is no index to these. ....<snip>.... __________________________ From: Sandy Bauer <[email protected]> There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, ....<snip>.... I plan on going back again this year for a whole week and will try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne City) Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) (near Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. ....<snip>.... ______________________________ From: Liz Cameron <[email protected]> ....<snip>.... The courthouse employees were very helpful. Some of this information is not even listed in lists of courthouse holdings. I thought I had searched everything pre-fire that I could get my hands on, but here is what I found: There is a Circuit Court Index Book 1, from 1800-1880 and the court record packets. The earliest ones are singed and in very poor condition. They need to be microfilmed or preserved in some way soon! But I was able to look through them for whomever. There is also a Book 2 which indexes from 1880-1916 and corresponding records.There is a Will Index from 1861-1950. ....<snip>.... I found a Grantor Index book for land records for 1851-1858. Only the grantors (sellers) are indexed. The index book lists almost everything except money paid and other details that don't fit the columns, so it is almost as good as the deeds themselves. Also, look at the later deeds. ....<snip>.... The husband's deed was dated 1867 but filed in 1909 when he died. A deed for his wife was filed on the page before. It was dated 1858!!! ....<snip>.... The grantor index book may hold the key to the wife's purchase of land as she had been previously married and her first husband died before 1857 but I need to search the grantees--unindexed. ....<snip>.... I only had 3 days in the Wayne County area and lots of places to visit and search so I did not acquaint myself with every record available in the courthouse, but I was surprised by the amount of early records. ...<snip>.... >> In a message dated 1/22/02 2:03:29 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] The records that exist are in the office of the circuit clerk. ....<snip>.... The books that would indicate the location of any certain records were lost in the fire. I do not think that any deed or land records are in those files. It appears to me that it would take unlimited time to locate anything. ....<snip>.... Indexing the contents would be a wonderful project for some organization. ....<snip>..... I would suggest that any one wanting land information buy the latest edition of the plat maps (I do not know where they can be purchased) and see who owns the land today. That person may have an abstract for the land. ....<snip>.... A local abstract office might have information. I assume that there would be a fee. May I also say that I consider the records after the fire to be in excellent order and condition. ....<snip>.... >> In a message dated 1/23/02 7:01:40 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: "Michael Clemmons" <[email protected]> I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and ....<snip>.... http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com From: "Michael Clemmons" ....<snip>.... One of the reasons that I wanted to use a database is to make queries easier. I wanted people to be able (at some point) to be able to enter in a year and have it return all the people who died with that year. This could also be done with the year that they were born. I wanted to make searching easy but powerful for the user. ....<snip>.... >> ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

Sandra Thanks so much for the offer. I plan on spending a week in Wayne/Jefferson counties Aug 31-Sep 8 and would love to get a group together. I have no clue where cemeteries are. When I visited last year over Labor Day, I met some wonderful people from Jefferson County that actually led me to Farnsworth and Davis-Mateer so I could find some of my ancestors I was looking for. This is how I started taking photos of gravestones. I have very fond memories of spending time with my grandparents around Bluford, IL. I also remember my cousin living in a house in Wayne City on the main drag through town and couldn't resist driving by and looking to see if the house was still there when I was there (I was only 8 at that time). Happily, the house was still there. My parents, mom mom's parents and other relatives are buried at Thomason Cemetery and I know how to get there. These are the only cemeteries in Wayne County I have visited but will gladly go to others and photograph gravestones. I do need help with transcription of the pictures of the stones. Any chance my Mauldings and yours are related ??? My line is: Ambrose Maulding b 1 Aug 1755 d 26 Aug 1833 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co Lee(Lea) Maulding b 4Jun 1789 d 19 Aug 1859 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co James Maulding b 8 Mar 1832 d 3 Dec 1873 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co Mary Susan Maulding b 2 Apr 1858 d 22 Mar 1901 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co Rosco Vern Whalen b 27 Mar 1890 d 1 Jan 1966 buried at Laird, Jefferson Co Noel Clark Whalen b 4 Apr 1924 d 30 Oct 1996 buried at Thomason, Wayne Co Sandra Elaine Whalen ( me !!!) Sandy (Whalen) Bauer http://www.geocities.com/sandy_bauer John & Sandra Brandt wrote: > Hello! > I feel an obligation to jump in here. I have spent many days in Wayne Co., > have met Doris B. (in her home), and own many of her books/pamphlets. She's > a very neat lady who won't sell you something that you really "don't need", > but will help you refine your search (not like some of the "show" book > dealers!). My Wayne Co. ancestors are Cross, Payne, Maulding, Patterson. All > of my IL. ancestry is concentrated in Wayne, Marion, and Hamilton counties, > and this might assist someone with family "overlap". I live in Ky.-less than > 2 hrs from Fairfield. I would like to suggest a "work session", a bit later > this spring/summer, where a couple of us "locals" might meet and help some > of you out there who are not able to get to the Wayne Co. Courthouse, Salem, > Four Mile or Thomason Cems., to name a few. This is just an idea. Let me > know what you think. > Sandra Brandt > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILWAYNE-L] Cemetery, Land, Other Records - Pre fire - Online > or not > > Liz, Dorris, Sandy, Michael & Others: > > Thank you all for helping the rest of us begin to understand the records > picture for Wayne County! > Thank you also for your efforts to build a cache of accessible records for > posterity. > > Liz, your post was particularly heartening. When I first found my > connections to the area about a year or more ago, I soon after read on the > Wayne County USGenWeb site of the courthouse fire and thought I'd hit a > brick > wall or dead end, deeming it likely I'd have to make educated guesses and > assumptions (not good for a genealogist), to track my folks earlier to KY > and > SC, and leaving a big gap in documented proof of the historical picture. Boy > did my heart sink, as I'm sure it does for everyone who reads of the fire. > Now if I could only get *to* Wayne County! <G> > > If can help future researchers in any way, I'm eager to do so, be it > transcriptions, proofreading or lending busy fingers to data entry, scanning > (OCR), or providing web space and page building to present data, and any > other ways in which I'm able. It looks like Wayne County can use many folks > applying the skills of creative ferreting to cull and preserve all the > supporting historical data we can acquire. > > I'm so glad you're all here on the list. My appreciation and admiration > goes > to anyone who helps maintain a continuity to the Wayne County History. > > Smiles, > Di, AKA Kin (since our listmom is Dianna--no confusion) > [email protected] yahoo. com > > --- > In a message dated 1/21/02 1:01:35 AM, [email protected] > writes: > > << From: [email protected] > > ....<snip>.... 17 Nov. 1886. I think that there is one index to some deeds > prior to that date. > ....<snip>.... > Also, even though the court house burned, files were saved, but it is > my understanding that there is no index to these. ....<snip>.... > > __________________________ > From: Sandy Bauer <[email protected]> > > There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, > > ....<snip>.... I plan on going back again this year for a whole week and > will > try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne City) > Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) (near > Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. ....<snip>.... > > ______________________________ > From: Liz Cameron <[email protected]> > > ....<snip>.... The courthouse employees were very helpful. Some of this > information is not even > listed in lists of courthouse holdings. I thought I had searched > everything > pre-fire that I could get my hands on, but here is what I found: > > There is a Circuit Court Index Book 1, from 1800-1880 and the court record > packets. The earliest ones are singed and in very poor condition. They > need > to be microfilmed or preserved in some way soon! > But I was able to look through them for whomever. > > There is also a Book 2 which indexes from 1880-1916 and corresponding > records.There is a Will Index from 1861-1950. ....<snip>.... > > I found a Grantor Index book for land records for 1851-1858. Only the > grantors (sellers) are indexed. The index book lists almost everything > except money paid and other details that don't fit the columns, so it is > almost as good as the deeds themselves. > Also, look at the later deeds. ....<snip>.... The husband's deed was > dated > 1867 but filed in 1909 when he died. A deed for his wife was filed on the > page before. It was dated 1858!!! ....<snip>.... > The grantor index book may hold the key to the wife's purchase of land as > she had been previously married and her first husband died before 1857 but > I > need to search the grantees--unindexed. > > ....<snip>.... I only had 3 days in the Wayne County area and lots of > places > to visit and search so I did > not acquaint myself with every record available in the courthouse, but I was > surprised by the amount of early records. ...<snip>.... > >> > > In a message dated 1/22/02 2:03:29 AM, [email protected] > writes: > > << From: [email protected] > > The records that exist are in the office of the circuit clerk. > ....<snip>.... The books that would indicate the location of any certain > records were lost in the fire. I do not think that any deed or land records > are in those files. It appears to me that it would take unlimited time to > locate anything. ....<snip>.... Indexing the contents would be a wonderful > project for some organization. > ....<snip>..... > I would suggest that any one wanting land information buy the latest > edition of the plat maps (I do not know where they can be purchased) and see > who owns the land today. That person may have an abstract for the land. > ....<snip>.... A local abstract office might have information. I assume > that > there would be a fee. > May I also say that I consider the records after the fire to be in > excellent order and condition. ....<snip>.... > >> > > In a message dated 1/23/02 7:01:40 AM, [email protected] > writes: > > << From: "Michael Clemmons" <[email protected]> > > I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have > one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and > ....<snip>.... > http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com > > From: "Michael Clemmons" > > ....<snip>.... > One of the reasons that I wanted to use a database is to make queries > easier. I wanted people to be able (at some point) to be able to enter in a > year and > have it return all the people who died with that year. This could also be > done with the year that they were born. I wanted to make searching easy but > powerful for the user. > ....<snip>.... > >> > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/