Hello All; Wow what a response:) For those of you who would not be able to make it on the date that might be picked---please don't feel left out..I will still be happy to work with each one of you when you can make it to Wayne County...I do alot of camping in the summer time but I am sure that I can work around that...I know what it is like to come to a place where you don't know anyone...and it sounds like alot of people are looking for ancestors in this area...So as I said I will work with you all one on one when and if you can make it to this little piece of the world...Also my offer of doing research for anyone still stands..I have found alot of information for people so far which makes me want to dig even deeper to see what else I can find... Thanks to all who has responded... Sincerely, Michelle Young:)

I especially appreciate knowing that there is Circuit Court Record Bk. 1 is available. I was looking for probate records and never thought of asking about the circuit court records. That was stupid of me. Back in the early days it seems that going to court was almost entertainment. Dorris [email protected]

I am not sure who the person was that said she would be there in Wayne, CO. Aug. 31-Sept 8. I, personally am not good at organizing, but if someone would take it upon themselves to try to organize some type of what I would call "A gathering of the clans" in Wayne Co. on those dates, perhaps we could get some type of meeting set up to share info with our selves and also with those in Wayne Co. that are "tree climbing". Also, I want to say ditto to the person that spoke of Doris Bland. She is one of those that I consider to be "Salt of the Earth". Dorris Lagow [email protected]

I'm looking for information on W. C. McCleary and wife Lenore born abt. 1850. They are listed in Wayne Co. census in 1900 with children James, John, Laura, Marion and Raymond. Is there any help out there? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have information on Marion after 1910 in Wyoming. Thanks, Janis _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Another large list I am on does this and it is very successuful....I wish I could attend. I will be in Wayne County in May.....maybe we could have a meeting in May. Thanks. (that might not work as school would not be out....but my children are in their late 30's! It would work for me.) . I would love to meet Ms Bland. Especially if she would bring her books with her to look over and purchase.Ira Sharp Dennis in Amarillo, Texas Michelle I think you are the greatest, always so helpful

Michelle, I'm planning on being there Aug 31 - Sep 8 and would love to have you organize a work session. I do have one family reunion to go to on Sunday Sep 1 (Marlow family reunion in Bluford). If there are any Marlow family members on this list, let me know and I'll make sure and send you announcement about the family reunion since I'm secretary this year. I have a cousin I've never met coming down from northern Michigan for a couple of days over Labor Day and my mother's sister is coming from North Carolina and will be interested in joining in. My aunt can probably help provide info as well as she is in her late 70's (although I know she'd hate me to tell that). Sandy (Whalen) Bauer http://www.geocities.com/sandy_bauer Michelle Young wrote: > Hello all; > > I have been seeing alot of people wanting to have a work session in the Wayne County area...I think that is a great idea not only for all genealogists but also for me to get an opportunity to meet some of you that I have been researching for...I live in Fairfield, Illinois which is where the courthouse is located...I would be happy to organize this get together as well as take people to local cemeteries in Wayne County as well...We all just need to set a date and go from there...I can get us a meeting place and will even see if Doris Bland would like to join in as I have really been getting to know her lately...Feel free to e-mail me directly or the rootsweb Wayne County site itself...Am looking forward to hearing from all of you... > > Michelle > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

Hello all; I have been seeing alot of people wanting to have a work session in the Wayne County area...I think that is a great idea not only for all genealogists but also for me to get an opportunity to meet some of you that I have been researching for...I live in Fairfield, Illinois which is where the courthouse is located...I would be happy to organize this get together as well as take people to local cemeteries in Wayne County as well...We all just need to set a date and go from there...I can get us a meeting place and will even see if Doris Bland would like to join in as I have really been getting to know her lately...Feel free to e-mail me directly or the rootsweb Wayne County site itself...Am looking forward to hearing from all of you... Michelle

I have been asked off list by a few people on how to contribute info to the "cemetery project". If you have info on your ancestor's burial place in Wayne County, be it with or without a picture, please send me the info via email. If you do not have the ability to make a digital photo to scan and email it to me, please contact me off list and I can give you my regular address and you can mail me the photos, I will scan them and send them back to you if needed. Any other questions, please feel free to drop me a line! margaret

Hi, I'm on several lists for genealogy and one in particular which is quite large and active and gets together in the summer for a "work session". I have not attended, but I believe they had about 40 attendees last summer which was larger than the year before. They had donations of books, copiers, local historians etc...the historical society was open as was the library and courthouse especially for them. It was not only a great time for them to work on genealogy but it seemed that those who attended were drawn even closer in friendship to their internet geneealogy friends. I think it is a great idea, but the burden of organizing really falls to you all who live in the county. It is a good idea to bat around on the list for other ideas and opinions. The county I referred to is planning another one for this summer as well. It seemed to be a valuable get together for those who attended. Bridget

Sandra Thanks so much for the offer. I plan on spending a week in Wayne/Jefferson counties Aug 31-Sep 8 and would love to get a group together. I have no clue where cemeteries are. When I visited last year over Labor Day, I met some wonderful people from Jefferson County that actually led me to Farnsworth and Davis-Mateer so I could find some of my ancestors I was looking for. This is how I started taking photos of gravestones. I have very fond memories of spending time with my grandparents around Bluford, IL. I also remember my cousin living in a house in Wayne City on the main drag through town and couldn't resist driving by and looking to see if the house was still there when I was there (I was only 8 at that time). Happily, the house was still there. My parents, mom mom's parents and other relatives are buried at Thomason Cemetery and I know how to get there. These are the only cemeteries in Wayne County I have visited but will gladly go to others and photograph gravestones. I do need help with transcription of the pictures of the stones. Any chance my Mauldings and yours are related ??? My line is: Ambrose Maulding b 1 Aug 1755 d 26 Aug 1833 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co Lee(Lea) Maulding b 4Jun 1789 d 19 Aug 1859 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co James Maulding b 8 Mar 1832 d 3 Dec 1873 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co Mary Susan Maulding b 2 Apr 1858 d 22 Mar 1901 buried at Farnsworth (Mt. Zion), Wayne Co Rosco Vern Whalen b 27 Mar 1890 d 1 Jan 1966 buried at Laird, Jefferson Co Noel Clark Whalen b 4 Apr 1924 d 30 Oct 1996 buried at Thomason, Wayne Co Sandra Elaine Whalen ( me !!!) Sandy (Whalen) Bauer http://www.geocities.com/sandy_bauer John & Sandra Brandt wrote: > Hello! > I feel an obligation to jump in here. I have spent many days in Wayne Co., > have met Doris B. (in her home), and own many of her books/pamphlets. She's > a very neat lady who won't sell you something that you really "don't need", > but will help you refine your search (not like some of the "show" book > dealers!). My Wayne Co. ancestors are Cross, Payne, Maulding, Patterson. All > of my IL. ancestry is concentrated in Wayne, Marion, and Hamilton counties, > and this might assist someone with family "overlap". I live in Ky.-less than > 2 hrs from Fairfield. I would like to suggest a "work session", a bit later > this spring/summer, where a couple of us "locals" might meet and help some > of you out there who are not able to get to the Wayne Co. Courthouse, Salem, > Four Mile or Thomason Cems., to name a few. This is just an idea. Let me > know what you think. > Sandra Brandt > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILWAYNE-L] Cemetery, Land, Other Records - Pre fire - Online > or not > > Liz, Dorris, Sandy, Michael & Others: > > Thank you all for helping the rest of us begin to understand the records > picture for Wayne County! > Thank you also for your efforts to build a cache of accessible records for > posterity. > > Liz, your post was particularly heartening. When I first found my > connections to the area about a year or more ago, I soon after read on the > Wayne County USGenWeb site of the courthouse fire and thought I'd hit a > brick > wall or dead end, deeming it likely I'd have to make educated guesses and > assumptions (not good for a genealogist), to track my folks earlier to KY > and > SC, and leaving a big gap in documented proof of the historical picture. Boy > did my heart sink, as I'm sure it does for everyone who reads of the fire. > Now if I could only get *to* Wayne County! <G> > > If can help future researchers in any way, I'm eager to do so, be it > transcriptions, proofreading or lending busy fingers to data entry, scanning > (OCR), or providing web space and page building to present data, and any > other ways in which I'm able. It looks like Wayne County can use many folks > applying the skills of creative ferreting to cull and preserve all the > supporting historical data we can acquire. > > I'm so glad you're all here on the list. My appreciation and admiration > goes > to anyone who helps maintain a continuity to the Wayne County History. > > Smiles, > Di, AKA Kin (since our listmom is Dianna--no confusion) > [email protected] yahoo. com > > --- > In a message dated 1/21/02 1:01:35 AM, [email protected] > writes: > > << From: [email protected] > > ....<snip>.... 17 Nov. 1886. I think that there is one index to some deeds > prior to that date. > ....<snip>.... > Also, even though the court house burned, files were saved, but it is > my understanding that there is no index to these. ....<snip>.... > > __________________________ > From: Sandy Bauer <[email protected]> > > There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, > > ....<snip>.... I plan on going back again this year for a whole week and > will > try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne City) > Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) (near > Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. ....<snip>.... > > ______________________________ > From: Liz Cameron <[email protected]> > > ....<snip>.... The courthouse employees were very helpful. Some of this > information is not even > listed in lists of courthouse holdings. I thought I had searched > everything > pre-fire that I could get my hands on, but here is what I found: > > There is a Circuit Court Index Book 1, from 1800-1880 and the court record > packets. The earliest ones are singed and in very poor condition. They > need > to be microfilmed or preserved in some way soon! > But I was able to look through them for whomever. > > There is also a Book 2 which indexes from 1880-1916 and corresponding > records.There is a Will Index from 1861-1950. ....<snip>.... > > I found a Grantor Index book for land records for 1851-1858. Only the > grantors (sellers) are indexed. The index book lists almost everything > except money paid and other details that don't fit the columns, so it is > almost as good as the deeds themselves. > Also, look at the later deeds. ....<snip>.... The husband's deed was > dated > 1867 but filed in 1909 when he died. A deed for his wife was filed on the > page before. It was dated 1858!!! ....<snip>.... > The grantor index book may hold the key to the wife's purchase of land as > she had been previously married and her first husband died before 1857 but > I > need to search the grantees--unindexed. > > ....<snip>.... I only had 3 days in the Wayne County area and lots of > places > to visit and search so I did > not acquaint myself with every record available in the courthouse, but I was > surprised by the amount of early records. ...<snip>.... > >> > > In a message dated 1/22/02 2:03:29 AM, [email protected] > writes: > > << From: [email protected] > > The records that exist are in the office of the circuit clerk. > ....<snip>.... The books that would indicate the location of any certain > records were lost in the fire. I do not think that any deed or land records > are in those files. It appears to me that it would take unlimited time to > locate anything. ....<snip>.... Indexing the contents would be a wonderful > project for some organization. > ....<snip>..... > I would suggest that any one wanting land information buy the latest > edition of the plat maps (I do not know where they can be purchased) and see > who owns the land today. That person may have an abstract for the land. > ....<snip>.... A local abstract office might have information. I assume > that > there would be a fee. > May I also say that I consider the records after the fire to be in > excellent order and condition. ....<snip>.... > >> > > In a message dated 1/23/02 7:01:40 AM, [email protected] > writes: > > << From: "Michael Clemmons" <[email protected]> > > I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have > one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and > ....<snip>.... > http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com > > From: "Michael Clemmons" > > ....<snip>.... > One of the reasons that I wanted to use a database is to make queries > easier. I wanted people to be able (at some point) to be able to enter in a > year and > have it return all the people who died with that year. This could also be > done with the year that they were born. I wanted to make searching easy but > powerful for the user. > ....<snip>.... > >> > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

To All, A group of us are partnering together to try to get as much Wayne County Cemetery info online, complete with photos where possible. I wanted to put out an APB to all Wayne County listers that if anyone has 'walked' any of the Cemeteries or even just has photos of their own families headstones that they would like to contribute to the cause to please let me know! I am pretty excited about this project and see it gaining momentum already!! Thanks! margaret

Hello! I feel an obligation to jump in here. I have spent many days in Wayne Co., have met Doris B. (in her home), and own many of her books/pamphlets. She's a very neat lady who won't sell you something that you really "don't need", but will help you refine your search (not like some of the "show" book dealers!). My Wayne Co. ancestors are Cross, Payne, Maulding, Patterson. All of my IL. ancestry is concentrated in Wayne, Marion, and Hamilton counties, and this might assist someone with family "overlap". I live in Ky.-less than 2 hrs from Fairfield. I would like to suggest a "work session", a bit later this spring/summer, where a couple of us "locals" might meet and help some of you out there who are not able to get to the Wayne Co. Courthouse, Salem, Four Mile or Thomason Cems., to name a few. This is just an idea. Let me know what you think. Sandra Brandt -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILWAYNE-L] Cemetery, Land, Other Records - Pre fire - Online or not Liz, Dorris, Sandy, Michael & Others: Thank you all for helping the rest of us begin to understand the records picture for Wayne County! Thank you also for your efforts to build a cache of accessible records for posterity. Liz, your post was particularly heartening. When I first found my connections to the area about a year or more ago, I soon after read on the Wayne County USGenWeb site of the courthouse fire and thought I'd hit a brick wall or dead end, deeming it likely I'd have to make educated guesses and assumptions (not good for a genealogist), to track my folks earlier to KY and SC, and leaving a big gap in documented proof of the historical picture. Boy did my heart sink, as I'm sure it does for everyone who reads of the fire. Now if I could only get *to* Wayne County! <G> If can help future researchers in any way, I'm eager to do so, be it transcriptions, proofreading or lending busy fingers to data entry, scanning (OCR), or providing web space and page building to present data, and any other ways in which I'm able. It looks like Wayne County can use many folks applying the skills of creative ferreting to cull and preserve all the supporting historical data we can acquire. I'm so glad you're all here on the list. My appreciation and admiration goes to anyone who helps maintain a continuity to the Wayne County History. Smiles, Di, AKA Kin (since our listmom is Dianna--no confusion) [email protected] yahoo. com --- In a message dated 1/21/02 1:01:35 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] ....<snip>.... 17 Nov. 1886. I think that there is one index to some deeds prior to that date. ....<snip>.... Also, even though the court house burned, files were saved, but it is my understanding that there is no index to these. ....<snip>.... __________________________ From: Sandy Bauer <[email protected]> There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, ....<snip>.... I plan on going back again this year for a whole week and will try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne City) Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) (near Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. ....<snip>.... ______________________________ From: Liz Cameron <[email protected]> ....<snip>.... The courthouse employees were very helpful. Some of this information is not even listed in lists of courthouse holdings. I thought I had searched everything pre-fire that I could get my hands on, but here is what I found: There is a Circuit Court Index Book 1, from 1800-1880 and the court record packets. The earliest ones are singed and in very poor condition. They need to be microfilmed or preserved in some way soon! But I was able to look through them for whomever. There is also a Book 2 which indexes from 1880-1916 and corresponding records.There is a Will Index from 1861-1950. ....<snip>.... I found a Grantor Index book for land records for 1851-1858. Only the grantors (sellers) are indexed. The index book lists almost everything except money paid and other details that don't fit the columns, so it is almost as good as the deeds themselves. Also, look at the later deeds. ....<snip>.... The husband's deed was dated 1867 but filed in 1909 when he died. A deed for his wife was filed on the page before. It was dated 1858!!! ....<snip>.... The grantor index book may hold the key to the wife's purchase of land as she had been previously married and her first husband died before 1857 but I need to search the grantees--unindexed. ....<snip>.... I only had 3 days in the Wayne County area and lots of places to visit and search so I did not acquaint myself with every record available in the courthouse, but I was surprised by the amount of early records. ...<snip>.... >> In a message dated 1/22/02 2:03:29 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] The records that exist are in the office of the circuit clerk. ....<snip>.... The books that would indicate the location of any certain records were lost in the fire. I do not think that any deed or land records are in those files. It appears to me that it would take unlimited time to locate anything. ....<snip>.... Indexing the contents would be a wonderful project for some organization. ....<snip>..... I would suggest that any one wanting land information buy the latest edition of the plat maps (I do not know where they can be purchased) and see who owns the land today. That person may have an abstract for the land. ....<snip>.... A local abstract office might have information. I assume that there would be a fee. May I also say that I consider the records after the fire to be in excellent order and condition. ....<snip>.... >> In a message dated 1/23/02 7:01:40 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: "Michael Clemmons" <[email protected]> I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and ....<snip>.... http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com From: "Michael Clemmons" ....<snip>.... One of the reasons that I wanted to use a database is to make queries easier. I wanted people to be able (at some point) to be able to enter in a year and have it return all the people who died with that year. This could also be done with the year that they were born. I wanted to make searching easy but powerful for the user. ....<snip>.... >> ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

Liz, Dorris, Sandy, Michael & Others: Thank you all for helping the rest of us begin to understand the records picture for Wayne County! Thank you also for your efforts to build a cache of accessible records for posterity. Liz, your post was particularly heartening. When I first found my connections to the area about a year or more ago, I soon after read on the Wayne County USGenWeb site of the courthouse fire and thought I'd hit a brick wall or dead end, deeming it likely I'd have to make educated guesses and assumptions (not good for a genealogist), to track my folks earlier to KY and SC, and leaving a big gap in documented proof of the historical picture. Boy did my heart sink, as I'm sure it does for everyone who reads of the fire. Now if I could only get *to* Wayne County! <G> If can help future researchers in any way, I'm eager to do so, be it transcriptions, proofreading or lending busy fingers to data entry, scanning (OCR), or providing web space and page building to present data, and any other ways in which I'm able. It looks like Wayne County can use many folks applying the skills of creative ferreting to cull and preserve all the supporting historical data we can acquire. I'm so glad you're all here on the list. My appreciation and admiration goes to anyone who helps maintain a continuity to the Wayne County History. Smiles, Di, AKA Kin (since our listmom is Dianna--no confusion) [email protected] yahoo. com --- In a message dated 1/21/02 1:01:35 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] ....<snip>.... 17 Nov. 1886. I think that there is one index to some deeds prior to that date. ....<snip>.... Also, even though the court house burned, files were saved, but it is my understanding that there is no index to these. ....<snip>.... __________________________ From: Sandy Bauer <[email protected]> There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, ....<snip>.... I plan on going back again this year for a whole week and will try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne City) Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) (near Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. ....<snip>.... ______________________________ From: Liz Cameron <[email protected]> ....<snip>.... The courthouse employees were very helpful. Some of this information is not even listed in lists of courthouse holdings. I thought I had searched everything pre-fire that I could get my hands on, but here is what I found: There is a Circuit Court Index Book 1, from 1800-1880 and the court record packets. The earliest ones are singed and in very poor condition. They need to be microfilmed or preserved in some way soon! But I was able to look through them for whomever. There is also a Book 2 which indexes from 1880-1916 and corresponding records.There is a Will Index from 1861-1950. ....<snip>.... I found a Grantor Index book for land records for 1851-1858. Only the grantors (sellers) are indexed. The index book lists almost everything except money paid and other details that don't fit the columns, so it is almost as good as the deeds themselves. Also, look at the later deeds. ....<snip>.... The husband's deed was dated 1867 but filed in 1909 when he died. A deed for his wife was filed on the page before. It was dated 1858!!! ....<snip>.... The grantor index book may hold the key to the wife's purchase of land as she had been previously married and her first husband died before 1857 but I need to search the grantees--unindexed. ....<snip>.... I only had 3 days in the Wayne County area and lots of places to visit and search so I did not acquaint myself with every record available in the courthouse, but I was surprised by the amount of early records. ...<snip>.... >> In a message dated 1/22/02 2:03:29 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: [email protected] The records that exist are in the office of the circuit clerk. ....<snip>.... The books that would indicate the location of any certain records were lost in the fire. I do not think that any deed or land records are in those files. It appears to me that it would take unlimited time to locate anything. ....<snip>.... Indexing the contents would be a wonderful project for some organization. ....<snip>..... I would suggest that any one wanting land information buy the latest edition of the plat maps (I do not know where they can be purchased) and see who owns the land today. That person may have an abstract for the land. ....<snip>.... A local abstract office might have information. I assume that there would be a fee. May I also say that I consider the records after the fire to be in excellent order and condition. ....<snip>.... >> In a message dated 1/23/02 7:01:40 AM, [email protected] writes: << From: "Michael Clemmons" <[email protected]> I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and ....<snip>.... http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com From: "Michael Clemmons" ....<snip>.... One of the reasons that I wanted to use a database is to make queries easier. I wanted people to be able (at some point) to be able to enter in a year and have it return all the people who died with that year. This could also be done with the year that they were born. I wanted to make searching easy but powerful for the user. ....<snip>.... >>

I placed the data into a database and the pictures are in a directory. I made it so that it would be easy to add more cemeteries. I planned on just using a comma delimited file and importing that file into the database. One of the reasons that I wanted to use a database is to make queries easier. I wanted people to be able (at some point) to be able to enter in a year and have it return all the people who died with that year. This could also be done with the year that they were born. I wanted to make searching easy but powerful for the user. I thought about registering the domain: waynecountycemeteries.com but that might be down the road a bit. I would be happy to help out in any way I could. Mike Clemmons -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Fox-Jackson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILWAYNE-L] cemetery records online? Hi Mike, Sandy and I are only beginning to try to do this and had taken our conversation off-list. Perhaps you could share how you indexed them, what format, etc? It would be terrific if we could share info as well. The more people that walk the cemeteries and take photos, the more info we can get online! Take care, margaret Michael Clemmons wrote: > I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have > one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and > then > I will start proofing the work. There are images that go with all the > entries. > I hope to get other cemeteries on line as soon as i can get back down there. > I will probably start with the smaller ones at first. > > Mike Clemmons > http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Bauer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILWAYNE-L] cemetery records online? > > Margaret > > There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, IL but unless > someone volunteers to walk the cemeteries, we'll never get the information > online! You can purchase the books off the Wayne County website. > > I made a trip to Jefferson and Wayne Counties over Labor Day last year, and > visited a couple of cemeteries in Wayne County (to find my relatives) and > took some photos. I plan on going back again this year for a whole week > and will try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne > City) Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) > (near Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. I'll work with > Dianna to get them posted on the Wayne County website. > > Sandy (Whalen) Bauer > http://www.geocities.com/sandy_bauer > > Margaret Fox-Jackson wrote: > > > Are there any cemetery records online for Wayne County? I am trying to > > figure out where my GGreat Grandparents Otis and Sarah Trussell are > > buried. > > Sarah Trussell died on February 19, 1870 in Fairfield and Otis G. > > Trussell died on February 12, 1879, also in Fairfield. Otis was a Civil > > War Veteran, but also may have belonged to the Independent Order of Odd > > Fellows, so if there is an IOOF cemetery in Wayne County he may be > > there. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > > margaret > > > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

Hi Mike, Sandy and I are only beginning to try to do this and had taken our conversation off-list. Perhaps you could share how you indexed them, what format, etc? It would be terrific if we could share info as well. The more people that walk the cemeteries and take photos, the more info we can get online! Take care, margaret Michael Clemmons wrote: > I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have > one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and > then > I will start proofing the work. There are images that go with all the > entries. > I hope to get other cemeteries on line as soon as i can get back down there. > I will probably start with the smaller ones at first. > > Mike Clemmons > http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Bauer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILWAYNE-L] cemetery records online? > > Margaret > > There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, IL but unless > someone volunteers to walk the cemeteries, we'll never get the information > online! You can purchase the books off the Wayne County website. > > I made a trip to Jefferson and Wayne Counties over Labor Day last year, and > visited a couple of cemeteries in Wayne County (to find my relatives) and > took some photos. I plan on going back again this year for a whole week > and will try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne > City) Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) > (near Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. I'll work with > Dianna to get them posted on the Wayne County website. > > Sandy (Whalen) Bauer > http://www.geocities.com/sandy_bauer > > Margaret Fox-Jackson wrote: > > > Are there any cemetery records online for Wayne County? I am trying to > > figure out where my GGreat Grandparents Otis and Sarah Trussell are > > buried. > > Sarah Trussell died on February 19, 1870 in Fairfield and Otis G. > > Trussell died on February 12, 1879, also in Fairfield. Otis was a Civil > > War Veteran, but also may have belonged to the Independent Order of Odd > > Fellows, so if there is an IOOF cemetery in Wayne County he may be > > there. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > > margaret > > > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

I have started to place cemeteries on line at my family web site. Only have one so far, Barnhill Cemetery. I have a couple of more plots to add and then I will start proofing the work. There are images that go with all the entries. I hope to get other cemeteries on line as soon as i can get back down there. I will probably start with the smaller ones at first. Mike Clemmons http://family.clemmonsconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Bauer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILWAYNE-L] cemetery records online? Margaret There are books published on the cemeteries of Wayne County, IL but unless someone volunteers to walk the cemeteries, we'll never get the information online! You can purchase the books off the Wayne County website. I made a trip to Jefferson and Wayne Counties over Labor Day last year, and visited a couple of cemeteries in Wayne County (to find my relatives) and took some photos. I plan on going back again this year for a whole week and will try and take photos of all the gravestones in Thomason (near Wayne City) Farnsworth (Mt. Zion) Cemetery and also the Salem (Davis-Mateer) (near Keenes) cemeteries where I have lots of relatives. I'll work with Dianna to get them posted on the Wayne County website. Sandy (Whalen) Bauer http://www.geocities.com/sandy_bauer Margaret Fox-Jackson wrote: > Are there any cemetery records online for Wayne County? I am trying to > figure out where my GGreat Grandparents Otis and Sarah Trussell are > buried. > Sarah Trussell died on February 19, 1870 in Fairfield and Otis G. > Trussell died on February 12, 1879, also in Fairfield. Otis was a Civil > War Veteran, but also may have belonged to the Independent Order of Odd > Fellows, so if there is an IOOF cemetery in Wayne County he may be > there. > Any help would be appreciated! > Thanks, > margaret > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/

The records that exist are in the office of the circuit clerk. They are in file boxes. If you have ever been in the office of a circuit clerk, you may have seen some of these file boxes. They are about 6 in. or so wide and somewhat deep. They are packed with folded papers. To the best of my knowledge, there is absolutely no way to tell what would be in any certain box. The books that would indicate the location of any certain records were lost in the fire. I do not think that any deed or land records are in those files. It appears to me that it would take unlimited time to locate anything. If you do go and try, I would suggest that you wear something that you do not mind getting dirty. I think that it is smoke that has gotten on them. They are so old and fragile that I think they should be opened only once and copied. Who has the time and the money! I am SURE that the people in that office would not have time. Indexing the contents would be a wonderful project for some organization. The few people in Wayne Co. that do professional research (for a fee), may have some general idea as to the contents of SOME of these boxes. That is only a possibility. Do not get excited at the idea that anything was left after the fire. It would be like finding a needle in a hay stack or worse. I would suggest that any one wanting land information buy the latest edition of the plat maps (I do not know where they can be purchased) and see who owns the land today. That person may have an abstract for the land. I have one for part of the land that I own in Wayne Co. Much of the rest was passed through the family from the early 1900s. Years ago, an attorney told me that at one time, it was the custom that when land was sold, the seller gave the buyer a copy of the deed that he had received when he got the land. Note that he said that it was the custom, not that everyone did it. A local abstract office might have information. I assume that there would be a fee. May I also say that I consider the records after the fire to be in excellent order and condition. The people in all of the offices are polite and considerate, but we must remember that they can't do our research. My experiences there have been so much better than in some other counties, that I can only give them praise. Dorris

I'm not even sure if I am researching the right Taylor! I am very amateur at tree climbing and am doing the best I can at the moment. George William TAYLOR born about Jan 1832 in OH married Catharine SPICER b 1832, in Muskingum OH in 1852. With tidbits from other Spicer researchers it looks like the family migrated to Wayne County IL around 1853-1854 possibly with the families of Griffith TAYLOR and Harrison TAYLOR On the Wayne County 1855 Census I found the family of George TAYLOR with 2 males under the age of 10, he and his wife between the ages of 20-30. This could possibly be William C TAYLOR and John D TAYLOR. On the Wayne County 1865 Census I found the family of Cather TAYLOR with 3 sons under the age 10, one son between 10 and 20, one female under the age 10 and one female between 30 and 40 or is that 50? I hate the way this census reads...confusing..The 3 sons could be John D TAYLOR Samuel B TAYLOR, and Marion W TAYLOR, and the daughter could be Mary A TAYLOR. George is found on the 1862 Civil War Roster for Wayne County in Indian Prairie, not called to muster, along with Griffith TAYLOR Mary A TAYLOR is mentioned in Catharine's obituary as being Mrs Mary A EARHART living in Clay County in 1910. At that time it is also mentioned that Samuel B TAYLOR and Marion W TAYLOR are her sons, but doesn't mention William C TAYLOR. I am wondering where he went to. Did George have a family business or were they farmers? The 1865 Census mentioned having 60# of wool. The 1855 Census mentioned having $110 worth livestock. More details to current date, maybe this is enough for starters!

Dear KinDetective & others, I researched in Wayne County for the first time this past summer. I thought I'd died and gone to genealogical heaven. The courthouse employees were very helpful. Some of this information is not even listed in lists of courthouse holdings. I thought I had searched everything pre-fire that I could get my hands on, but here is what I found: There is a Circuit Court Index Book 1, from 1800-1880 and the court record packets. The earliest ones are singed and in very poor condition. They need to be microfilmed or preserved in some way soon! But I was able to look through them for whomever. There is also a Book 2 which indexes from 1880-1916 and corresponding records. There is a Will Index from 1861-1950. I don't know if the early wills exist because I none of my known ancestors left a will in that county. I found a Grantor Index book for land records for 1851-1858. Only the grantors (sellers) are indexed. The index book lists almost everything except money paid and other details that don't fit the columns, so it is almost as good as the deeds themselves. Also, look at the later deeds. I had hired a researcher to search my surnames in the indexes. One really important one was mispelled so it was missed when she searched the indexes for me but I found it when I went to look at the original deed for the husband. The husband's deed was dated 1867 but filed in 1909 when he died. A deed for his wife was filed on the page before. It was dated 1858!!! I had the husband's deed for many years but did not know of this deed until my trip this past summer. The grantor index book may hold the key to the wife's purchase of land as she had been previously married and her first husband died before 1857 but I need to search the grantees--unindexed. Aaargh! There maybe other earlier records in the courthouse. I only had 3 days in the Wayne County area and lots of places to visit and search so I did not acquaint myself with every record available in the courthouse, but I was surprised by the amount of early records. Most of this is not microfilmed or extracted by the lovely Wayne County genealogists who have published records like the cemetery records or Wayne County Press info. You have to go in person or hire a researcher. Good luck & happy hunting! Liz Cameron researching Forendo Durham & William C. Clark of Wayne County, Illinois, & their descendants [email protected] wrote: > Lois and others, > I'm wondering what County records exist from before November 1886, when the > Wayne County Courthouse was burned. <sigh> I would think those records would > clarify what isn't easy to see from static land records. > I'd love to learn that some legal papers were stored away from the ravages of > that courthouse fire! > > << NWNW Section 8 3s 8e dated Oct 13, 1848 and filed Feb 3, 1849 Book 54 > Page 252. >> > > >From what source is the above quote? > Does anyone know if the County Assessor, plat maps or other land office > records are available for years before 1850? What about tax records? I know > how to access the online IL State databases, BLM, etc., for original land > patents, but I haven't had much time to devote to this as yet, and as you can > likely tell, I'm pretty green at this research. Where can I find land > purchases from original settler to next person, and thereafter? > Point me in the right direction, please. > > I have to track a family (Jacob RISTER) who were there from about > 1828-1847. Dates which seem to follow some of the earliest, and precede the > most helpful surviving records. I will see what area church and newspaper > records survive and hope to cull what I can. The best solid clue I have to > go on relating directly to Wayne County is the land patent record, so I am > drawn to this thread to see what follows. > I have yet to order Civil War records which may confirm a Fairfield > connection to my Wisconsin based soldier from Wayne County, IL. The WI > obit/death notices of these folks only say Wayne with no specified town. I > have to take the land patent, legal geo-coordinates and translate them to > English, so I can find their home. > I hope to find Bland's and other publications helpful. I'm really praying > for any help at all! > > I was going to reply with a possible long shot connection to my RISTER > family and the WILSON Lois mentioned, but found that our connection, a Wayne > Co. born Lucinda Rister married John Wilson, (b.1827) of Posey County, > Indiana. More of a long shot, even though Posey County is the southwestern > most county in Indiana, southeast of Wayne on the border next to Gallatin & > White Counties, IL. Ah well.... > > I wish you all much luck with your quest! This area seems to be quite a > challenge to research, but I'm sure it will be rewarding. I'll gladly post > any connections or data I find which might be useful to other list members. > I'll gratefully appreciate any help and guidance. > > Thanks & Happy Hunting, > Kin - [email protected] yahoo .com > RISTER & possibly PARISH / PARRISH > > > > > == > In a message dated 1/20/02 4:29:19 AM, [email protected] writes: > > << Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:42:38 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ILWAYNE-L] Asa Haynes-Hunsinger-Atterberry-Wilson > > .....<snip>.... Do you know if the Wayne County Clerk has the deeds and > wills? I think that either Charles W. Atteberry or his wife Susan (Hunsinger) > Atteberry or some of their family may have inherited this land from Asa > Haynes. > Question for List: > Is anyone researching the Asa Haynes family? If so do you know of a > connection between the Atterberry, Wilson, Hunsinger, and Haynes lines? >> > > > > > ==== ILWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Any questions/problems regarding the Wayne County, Illinois list, > contact the listowner, Dianna Williams mailto:[email protected] > Visit the Wayne County, Illinois Genealogy web site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne/ > > >

Hi all! I wish I knew of an online cemetary listing for Wayne County that you didnt have to pay to buy a book! I have been told that possibly my great grandfather George William TAYLOR is buried with his wife Catherine SPICER in Jacobs Chapel Cemetary in Orchardsville. I would love to know what details might be written on his stone if any at all. I have traced his movement from OH to Wayne County as my elusive grandfather William C Taylor, his son seems to have a big gap between George and Catherine's marriage in 1852 and William C marriage in 1912 in Cairo IL. Any help or further details on this couple would be greatly appreciated! I am looking forward to being on this list!