This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Livesay, Crane, Shaw, Bagby, Hawkins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5g.2ADI/84.1 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information about my mother's father's mother, Elizabeth Livesay. Familysearch finds her as Elizabeth O. Livesay, b. 20 Dec 1864 in Washington Cty IL, m. Noah Alonzo Crane 16 May 1888 in Sedgwick Cty KS (Wichita area). She d. 27 June 1939 in Kansas City MO. I am sure she is related to the many Washington (and St. Clair?) Cty IL Livesays, but I do not have any particulars. Would like to find her connections. Would also like to trace back further the lineage of Noah Alonzo Crane. Familysearch finds him b. 12 Dec 1960 to parents, Isaac Crane and Nancy Shaw. Noah d. 30 July 1899 in Wichita, Sedgwick Cty KS. His mother Nancy Shaw is kin to the many Shaws, Bagbys, Hawkins who moved to IL from NC (Warren Cty, esp Halifax) and TN, and many originally from VA where they were very early settlers. Familysearch finds Isaac Crane b. 30 Oct 1825 in Belleville, St. Clair Cty IL, d. 13 April 1894 in Washington Cty. However, though I know there are many Cranes in the St. Clair and Washington Cty areas, I have not been able to trace Isaac Crane further back. Would like to connect him to other Cranes and trace from which area they migrated. (Other research suggests Cranes may derive from Norfolk Cty in England??)