This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hoffman, Schwoeppe, Gilbert, Homburg, Krueger, Lillienkamp, Prusz, Rumig, Schorfheide, Seyler Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5g.2ADI/308 Message Board Post: Thanks to Mary Klemundt for sending a copy of the obit to me. From: Nashville Journal, Nashville, Washington County, Illinois Published: 8 Aug 1935 Mrs. Hoffman, 92 Passes Away At Daughter’s Home Deceased Was One of Oldest Residents of County; Funeral Monday The funeral services for Mrs. Mary C. Hoffman, 92, were held Monday afternoon at the home at 2:00 o’clock and in the Evangelical church at 2:30 o’clock. Rev. C. H. Kluge officiated. Interment followed in the Evangelical Cemetery. Mrs. Hoffman died at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Mary E. Gilbert, Friday, August 2, at 8:45 p. m., at the age of 92 years, 4 months, and 2 days. Mrs. Hoffman, nee Schwoeppe, only daughter of William and Anna Schwoeppe, was born in Elkton Prairie, near Johannisburg, on March 30, 1843. A child of Christian parents she was dedicated to God in baptism on April 6, of the same year. She was received into the membership of the church by the rite of confirmation on March 16, 1856, at the Evangelical church of Johannisburg. One other member of this confirmation class, Veteran John Meyer of Addieville, still remains among the living. She was a long and faithful member of St. Paul’s church and the Evangelical Ladies’ Aid. Deceased was united in marriage with Henry F. W. Hoffman on Feb. 5, 1865. The family has made their home on the farm southwest of this city these many years. Here they reared a family of five children, four daughters and one son. The son passed out of this life in 1915 and one daughter went to her reward early this year. The husband also departed this life in 1906. Since his passing Mrs. Hoffman continued on the home place, now in charge of Mrs. Mary E. Gilbert. Here she received the best of care during the late years when time was beginning to tell its story in the life of the aged mother. Her last illness was of but brief duration, though she had been in a precarious condition for years, and she quietly closed her eyes in the last sleep on Friday evening. Her passing is mourned by three daughter [sic], Mrs. Alvina Krueger of St. Louis, Mrs. Elizabeth Homburg and Mrs. Mary E. Gilbert, of near here, one daughter-in-law, Mrs. Anna Hoffman, of near Nashville; seven grandchildren, two great-grandchildren and other relatives and friends. The pallbearers were six great-nephews of the deceased: Fred Prusz, Henry Schorfheide, John Schorfheide, Paul Lillienkamp, W. E. Rumig and Floyd Seyler of Centralia. The flower girls were: Misses Clara Prusz, Elfrieda Blumhorst and Ruth Rumig. Those who attended the funeral from a distance were Mr. and Mrs. H. F. Krueger and daughters, Misses Marie and Helen, Mrs. Norman Henley, Mrs. Marie Kruse and son William, Mr. and Mrs. Fred Ruedy and Miss Lillian Riebeling of St. Louis, Rev. and Mrs. Ed Brink of Weldon Springs, Mo., Mrs. Louis Greiman of Hookdale, Mrs. Wm. Rolf, Mrs. Frieda Grommet, Mrs. Mary Seyler, Misses Lydia and Amelia Hoffman, George Hoffman and daughter and [sic] Leona of Hoyleton, Mrs. Gus Hussman of Hoffman, Mrs. Lizzie Kaiser and daughter Miss Meta Marie and Miss Billie Peck, Mr. and Mrs. Ed Kaiser and Emil Kaiser, Mr. and Mrs. Floyd Seyler and son Jimmy, Mrs. C. L. Weihe and Ernest Piontkowski of Centralia, and friends from Addieville and Okawville.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5g.2ADI/46.1 Message Board Post: Wilma, We've not communicated in quite a whie but have you linked this William to our Ramsey family? I recently found a document in Greene Co Tn identfying Andrew Ramsey purchas of land in 1806 and it mentions William Ramsey in the Land doc but does not identify his relationship John

Just passing along an informative and interesting site about Hanover. It has an English version! Enjoy! Gloria --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 11/27/03 1:01:29 PM Central Standard Time, GERMANS-STLOUIS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:03:31 -0500 > From: susank521@juno.com > To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20031127.120332.1308.1.SusanK521@juno.com> > Subject: [Germans-STL] Hanover-informative website > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > An interesting and informative website concerning the Kingdom of Hanover > and emigration > http://www.geschichte.uni-hannover.de/projekte/amerika/index.html > Happy Thanksgiving!

<A HREF="http://www.anzwers.org/free/italiangen/italynames.html">Italian Names and History of Italian Names and Italian Surnames.</A> I ran across the above site when looking for a translation site and thought some of our listers could use this. It has lots of info. Gloria

Genealogists, particularly those interested in the use of technology, will meet in St. Louis from 22-24 January 2004 for NGS GENTECH 2004. December 1 is the deadline for the advance registration discount. Since 1993, GENTECH has been the national conference for people interested in GENealogy and TECHnology. In 2002 GENTECH strengthened its infrastructure and expanded its role by becoming a division of the National Genealogical Society. Each year the conference has featured a panel of nationally known speakers who have addressed themselves to every aspect of the use of computer and Internet technology to support genealogical research - to meet the needs of advanced users as well as those just beginning to use technology in their research. This year there will be a special Librarian's Pre-Conference at NGS GENTECH Thursday, January 22, 2004. Details of this special Pre-Conference are at: www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/gentech04/precon-schedule.htm. Information on the entire NGS GENTECH conference can be found at: http://www.eshow2000.com/ngsgentech/register_now.cfm or at the St. Louis Genealogical Society website: www.stlgs.org/gentech2004 John Konvalinka, CGRS(sm), CGL(sm) www.konvalinka.com CGRS (Certified Genealogical Records Specialist) and CGL (Certified Genealogical Lecturer) are service marks of the Board for the Certification of Genealogists <http://www.BCGcertification.org> used under license by certified persons after periodic competency evaluations.

Hi, Everyone! I have made some recent serendipitous discoveries about my "Illinois" relatives. My DRENTEN folks started in Clinton County, IL or so I thought. It seems that the family actually came from the Lingen area in North Western Germany. They are included on the Emslander site and in Walter Tenfelde's book about immigrants from this area as DRENTE but my great-grandfather isn't listed. Plus, I had a different mother's name for him from his marriage record in St. Dominic's in Breese, Clinton County, IL. So I wasn't sure this was the correct family. While looking for someone else's ancestor, I stumbled on a Drenten as a witness to a marriage in the microfilmed records of the St. Louis Catholic church now called St. Joseph (Shrine of). It seems that this Drente family started out in Missouri in the 1840s and went to Illinois after 1865. While looking through these records I recognized many Clinton County names. I wanted to share this information and Dave Lossos has allowed my selected records, including Baptisms, Marriages and Burials to be posted on his Genealogy in St. Louis web site. Please keep a couple things in mind when you search through these records. I translated the Latin but I spelled all or most of the surnames exactly the way they appear in the records. This was a German Catholic parish and so the Latin words for John and Henry I put in as Johann and Heinrich. Some names I changed to the English and more recognizable forms such as Gesina for Chesina. I also left all the umlauts in so you can see the way the names were spelled originally. I also translated these records from copies of the microfilmed pages and some names were rather difficult to decipher. So, in other words, you must use a little imagination to find your people in some cases. Dave's site and these church records can be found at: <A HREF="http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/">http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com</A> The Emsland site, hosted by Barbara Salibi, is located at: <A HREF="http://www.emslanders.com/">www.emslanders.com</A> Both of these sites are a wealth of information and both hosts welcome new data. May you be as lucky as I. Enjoy! Gloria Dettleff

Why amI getting and error telling me oe has removed the attachment? Ty Young ----- Original Message ----- From: <ILWASHIN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ILWASHIN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: ILWASHIN-D Digest V03 #115

Listmates A GERMAN LECTURE SERIES IS COMING - mark you calendars. A lecture series to be held most Sundays in February 2004 is in the planning stages by the St. Clair County Historical Society, 701 East Washington Street, Belleville, IL 62220, ph: (618) 234- 0600. Lectures to be held at Southwestern Illinois College, 2:00 p.m. Dates and presenters so far: Feb 8, 2004 Tom Jewett on Gustave Koerner and his national connections. Feb 15, 2004 Steven Rowan - lecture focuses on why Germans were drawn to the St. Louis metro region and their life upon arrival. Feb 29, 2004 Steven Rowan - The Fantasy Prairie: Southern Illinois in 1850s German-American Trash Novels Mar 7, 2004 T.B.A This series is a fund raiser for the Gustave Koerner House Preservation (Belleville). Single and package ticket prices will be decided soon. If interested in this series, email Diane Walsh at rengen@compu-type.net or call the St. Clair County Historical Society.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5g.2ADI/307 Message Board Post: I have a copy of the obituary for Mary C. Hoffman (nee Schwoeppe; daughter is Mrs. Mary E. Gilbert) from the 8 August 1935 edition of the Nashville Journal. Since this was not the Mary Hoffman(n) I am looking for, I'd be happy to send it on to anyone who is researching this line. Please contact me off list and I'll put it in the mail for you. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5g.2ADI/306 Message Board Post: The Historic Atlas of Illinois series may be an invaluable aid to Genealogists, Historians and researchers in search of 19th century Illinois places. Each Atlas CD consists of a series of 9 or more bordering counties making up 1 of 11 Zones that depict all 102 Illinois counties. Each Zone Atlas contains 400 dpi scanned images of vintage 1876 county maps that are organized and presented in Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF). Original paper source quality varied from county to county; however, every effort has been made to retain the integrity of the original maps during conversion to digital format. Each county map may include the following 19th century features: * roads, railroads and canals * cities, towns and villages * post offices and government sites * one-room schoolhouses, churches and cemeteries * rivers, streams and ferries * industrial sites, furnaces and mills * early homesteads and farms * and much, much more The Adobe Acrobat Reader for MS Windows is needed to view, zoom, pan and print from the PDF map images contained in this atlas, and is included free on each CD. No other software is necessary. The Historic Atlas of Illinois Counties CD's are available for purchase directly online at the following URL: http://www.har-indy.com/il_map/il_index.html CD's may be purchased from the above web site either by mail order or instantly online by secure credit card transaction with PayPal. However, if any browser problems are experienced at this location, or if you prefer to make your transaction through eBay, please use the alternate link below. (See special auction pricing on the entire state CD's at eBay). http://www.stores.ebay.com/historicatlasseriesbyhar

Hello Bill, What a magnificent gesture! And how wonderful to receive any book on any county in the US! I have found scant information on Washington County, IL so far. I am interested in John B LANEY (b abt 1812 in KY?) and his second wife, a widow named Elizabeth MURPHEY Burr whom he married 22 April 1858. John B appears on the 1850 Lively Grove Washington, IL census with first wife, Margaret ? and four children. As a newlywed widower with five children (Robert S, John L, Malissa A, James W, David H) John B LANEY is on the 1860 Lively Grove Washington, IL census with Elizabeth Burr LANEY and her five children (Rufus H, William C, Elmira J, James M, Martha A) and THEIR new baby, Lafeyett B , who is under a year old. If there is any information in your book about these LANEYS I would certainly appreciate knowing about it. I have been speculating that John B, Elizabeth and young son, Lafeyette, must have died before 1870 because I can find no trace of any of the three after the 1860 census. If you or anyone on the list can give me any information on this family, I would be most grateful. I have been researching Elizabeth (my grgrgrandmother) for a long time to no avail. I would also be very interested in any news of Lafeyett B (Lafe?) LANEY if he lived to adulthood. Thanks Joan in TX

I'm still researching my Holliday family from Southern Illinois. They mostly lived in Washington County. William and Jane Holliday brought their family over from Co. Antrim, Ireland in 1819. They landed in South Carolina and moved on to Elkton Township, Oakdale, ....... many are buried in the Oakdale Cemetery. They stayed in that part of the country until the late 1800's and moved on to Texas, then to California. Surnames include: Holliday, Weir, Lyons, McCloy, MaWhinney, Hunter, etc. One McCloy moved back to the Illinois area and contributed to a historic book in the library. Does anyone share any of these folks? Thank you, Theresa

Hello So glad to hear that the Washington county Probate records will soon be in the hands of IRAD. Researching Washington County names PERTUISOT, HAMILL,MAYER, GILBERT, HERRMANN and HEISEL. Harlean Fries Escondido CA

Hello, friends! I was in contact with the Washington County Circuit Court's office last week and got some good news. IRAD (Illinois Regional Archive Depository System) has started microfilming the probate records. As the records are completed, they will be deposited at the IRAD facility at SIU- Carbondale. I've been there in the past while doing research in St. Clair and Madison Counties and was always disappointed with the lack of Washington County records available. For those of you unfamiliar with the IRAD System, their web page is: http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/irad/iradhome.html The wonderful thing about IRAD is that they WILL do research for individuals (requests by mail only - no e-mail requests) and only charge for the copies they make. Happy hunting! Jean Schorfheide Galloway, NJ aschorfheide@comcast.net

This message is for Kay WINKA, or anyone who can help. The e-mail addy I have for Kay is no longer valid, can anyone supply a current addy for her? I recently got a copy of the handout for the marriage back in September of John KUJAWA in the church at Radom. This was sent to me by Bucky McCoy, who knows I track the KUJAWA family, among others. I must confess that my data on the KUJAWA descendants of Bertha BOROWIAK and Konstanty "Steve" KUJAWA is incomplete enough that I cannot make head-nor-tail of the relationship of most of the participants listed as aunt or cousin. Can you please help me sort out the family of Marion KUJAWA so I can make sense of this? (And update my files.) Thanks, Kim

This is an advertisement to buy something. There is nothing to research at this site. In a message dated 10/23/03 9:31:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rgreen@har-indy.com writes: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Cemetery > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5g.2ADI/305 > > Message Board Post: > > We now have the Historic Atlas of Illinois Counties available directly > online at the following URL: > > http://www.har-indy.com/il_map/il_index.html > > Each Atlas CD consists of 9 or more bordering counties making up 1 of 11 > Zones that depict all of Illinois' 102 counties. Each Zone Atlas contains high > resolution (400 dpi) scanned images of vintage 1876 county maps that are > presented in Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF). > > Each county map may include the following 19th century features: > > * roads, railroads and canals > * cities, towns and villages > * post offices and government sites > * one-room schoolhouses, churches and cemeteries > * rivers, streams and ferries > * racetracks, fairgrounds and picnic groves > * industrial sites, furnaces and mills > * early homesteads and farms > * and much, much more > > The Historic Atlas of Illinois series is an invaluable aid to Genealogists, > Historians and researchers in search of 19th century Illinois places. The > Adobe Acrobat Reader for MS Windows is needed to view, zoom, pan and print from > the PDF map images contained in this atlas; and is included free on each CD. > No other software is necessary. > > Best Regards, > > Rich Green > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5g.2ADI/305 Message Board Post: We now have the Historic Atlas of Illinois Counties available directly online at the following URL: http://www.har-indy.com/il_map/il_index.html Each Atlas CD consists of 9 or more bordering counties making up 1 of 11 Zones that depict all of Illinois' 102 counties. Each Zone Atlas contains high resolution (400 dpi) scanned images of vintage 1876 county maps that are presented in Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF). Each county map may include the following 19th century features: * roads, railroads and canals * cities, towns and villages * post offices and government sites * one-room schoolhouses, churches and cemeteries * rivers, streams and ferries * racetracks, fairgrounds and picnic groves * industrial sites, furnaces and mills * early homesteads and farms * and much, much more The Historic Atlas of Illinois series is an invaluable aid to Genealogists, Historians and researchers in search of 19th century Illinois places. The Adobe Acrobat Reader for MS Windows is needed to view, zoom, pan and print from the PDF map images contained in this atlas; and is included free on each CD. No other software is necessary. Best Regards, Rich Green

Passing along with permission from the StL-Metro List--- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- In a message dated 10/20/03 3:12:15 PM Central Daylight Time, jkonvalinka@msn.com writes: > Genealogists, particularly those interested in the use of technology, will > meet in St. Louis from 22-24 January 2004 for NGS GENTECH 2004. > > Since 1993, GENTECH has been the national conference for people interested > in GENealogy and TECHnology. In 2002 GENTECH strengthened its > infrastructure and expanded its role by becoming a division of the National > Genealogical Society. > > Each year the conference has featured a panel of nationally known speakers > who have addressed themselves to every aspect of the use of computer and > Internet technology to support genealogical research - to meet the needs of > advanced users as well as those just beginning to use technology in their > research > > This year there will be a special Librarian's Pre-Conference at NGS GENTECH > Thursday, January 22, 2004. Details of this special Pre-Conference are at: > www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/gentech04/precon-schedule.htm. > > Information on the entire NGS GENTECH conference can be found at: > http://www.eshow2000.com/ngsgentech/register_now.cfm or at the St. Louis > Genealogical Society website: www.stlgs.org/gentech2004 > > > John Konvalinka, CGRS(sm), CGL(sm) > www.konvalinka.com > > CGRS (Certified Genealogical Records Specialist) > and CGL (Certified Genealogical Lecturer) are service > marks of the Board for the Certification of Genealogists > <http://www.BCGcertification.org> used under license > by certified persons after periodic competency evaluations. >

Just received confirmation that Sophia Christina Wilhelmina Moenkhoff b. 7 Jul 1830 in Kleinenbremen d. 18 Apr 1900 in Hoyleton. Does anyone have access to the Hoyleton church records to see if there are any notes recorded there? (We had previously assumed an earlier death date for a Christine Poehler we found. Not the same lady!) Christina married 1) Adam Hanenberger abt 1856 and 2) John Fredric Poehler 24 Dec 1874. According to the probate records, she was using the name Hanenberger by her death in 1900. We are wondering whether she divorced Poehler prior to his death 21 Feb 1888. There is a family story of a divorce, but it's nonspecific. Also, are there any on this list researching any Hanenberger lines? I've been going through some odd census pages here and there and browsing the 1880 census index online at familysearch and note that there is more than one family of Hanenberger in the area of Covington/New Minden. This one is not old enough to be Adam's father and certainly not a son. There's gotta be a connection here someplace! Just gotta. Thanks, Jerry in Boise

Can I interject a little Polish into this list? I am researching the following surnames coming from not only Washington County, Illinois, but also Jefferson County, Illinois. They are: CHWASCINSKI, DREAS, JABLONSKI, KRZYZANOWSKI, NADOLSKI, PYTLINSKI, RADAKE, ROZANSKI, AND WNUK. Thanks, Wendy Krzyzanowski