The only stupid question is the one unasked. For every person willing to risk asking, there are probably at least 10 more who really don't know, but don't have the guts to ask. My understanding----maybe a stupid answer, is that if a veteran of the Rev. War took a land warrant that was in lieu of a pension at some later date. The warrants were to encourage settlement further and further west. (They can stop coming west any day now.) I think the amount that the warrant was worth was dependent on a veteran's rank and length of service. Warrants could be sold for cash. I understand that some men made it a practice of buying up lots of veterans' warrants and then sold the land for higher prices, driving some people on to "greener---cheaper pastures". That is my stupid answer. Happy Holidays to all, Dot

I have just found out that one of them pesky ancestors has a land warrent. I had no idea he was even in a war. Stupid question: If this individual took a land warrent, is it in lieu of a pension? Should I send off for the warrent and pension? Or just the warrent? Thanks Marci

Hey Marci! Sorry, you should check both of them..as different info may be on the documents. Pretty sad, huh? Gets expensive...but you just never know what you will find! If we could get a job as P.I.'s, at least we would be paid for it, huh? Hmmmm, where do we apply? Like I tell the Grand babies...No such thing as a stupid question! Keep em' coming. Regards, Shirley

Hi all, hope everyone is enjoying this wonderful time of the year. An answer, as far as I know, about the Death Certificates. I called someone I know a while back and ask this very question. I was told that Death, Marriage, etc certificates were only required after the SS Act, which required everyone to become registered. Before that people went to the court house once a year to register and this was all legal from what I can find out. There was no need for proof of anything before SS Act, as I understand it. Hope this helps. When I am at wits end I go to Land Records and try to find wills and such, this has helped me when I was lost. I know no other way to get these facts before SS. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: levanti <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [ILWASHIN] Death Certif's and am I gonna have to fight again???? >Cousin, > >1915. > >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ira & Marci <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:13 PM >Subject: [ILWASHIN] Death Certif's and am I gonna have to fight >again???? > > >> >> Just to let everyone know.....I called the courthouse this >morning and wanted to request a death certificate, one that was dated >1908. I was told by Tom Ganz that it may or may not be there. When >questioned why, he stated that the Dr's or the coroner's were not >required to fill them out and submit them to the court. I thought by >this time that they required the death certificates......??? Some one >fill me in when they were required(in Wash. co.) .....Or where I might >go to find out what dates per county...... >>Thanks so much... >>Your buddy Marci >> >> >>==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== >>Donations to Rootsweb help provide free genealogy on the internet. >>http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> > > >==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Looking for genealogy in other states? Visit the USGenWeb Project at: >http://wwww.usgenweb.org/ >

Cousin, 1915. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Ira & Marci <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:13 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] Death Certif's and am I gonna have to fight again???? > > Just to let everyone know.....I called the courthouse this morning and wanted to request a death certificate, one that was dated 1908. I was told by Tom Ganz that it may or may not be there. When questioned why, he stated that the Dr's or the coroner's were not required to fill them out and submit them to the court. I thought by this time that they required the death certificates......??? Some one fill me in when they were required(in Wash. co.) .....Or where I might go to find out what dates per county...... >Thanks so much... >Your buddy Marci > > >==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Donations to Rootsweb help provide free genealogy on the internet. >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Just to let everyone know.....I called the courthouse this morning and wanted to request a death certificate, one that was dated 1908. I was told by Tom Ganz that it may or may not be there. When questioned why, he stated that the Dr's or the coroner's were not required to fill them out and submit them to the court. I thought by this time that they required the death certificates......??? Some one fill me in when they were required(in Wash. co.) .....Or where I might go to find out what dates per county...... Thanks so much... Your buddy Marci

I finally got a partial transcription from Kinyon Cemetery of Section 5, Plum Hill Township, Washington County put on-line at our web site located : http://genweb.net/~hinton/wshngtn.html Wayne [email protected] [email protected] http://genweb.net/~hinton/ http://genweb.net/~hinton/wshngtn.html

Albers is in Clinton County, Washington county's neighbor to the north, which is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/ . There is a query system under "Queries and Surnames" (for either that county or for all of Illinois) and I saw two other people listed that are researching "James" if that is the name you are looking for. There is also a St. Anthony's Catholic Cemetery on line there, but no James is listed. Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: Russell D. James <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 11:26 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] St. Anthony's Catholic Cemetery >I was wondering if anyone had access to the St. Anthony's Catholic Cemetery >records since 1991, when the kind and generous person made an index and put >it online? I think I might have a relative buried there since then. > >Also, where is Albers, Illinois? > >Thanks. > >Russell >Russell D. James >Delta, Colorado >[email protected] > > > >==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Washington County ILGenWeb genealogy page at: >http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

In a message dated 99-12-21 00:21:47 EST, you write: << Also, where is Albers, Illinois? >> Can't help with the rest of your message but Albers is now in Clinton Co. IL about 10-15 miles North & a little west of Okawville, on Rte 161. If you don't have one Wal-Mart has a Rand McNally Road Atlas for about $5 that shows even as small a town as Albers. I use that and my Zip code book constantly. Couldn't do research without them. Delores

I was wondering if anyone had access to the St. Anthony's Catholic Cemetery records since 1991, when the kind and generous person made an index and put it online? I think I might have a relative buried there since then. Also, where is Albers, Illinois? Thanks. Russell Russell D. James Delta, Colorado [email protected]

Tammy writes: > Our wish for you this season is that you are Happy & Healthy. 1999 has been > quite a year for our family. My goodness yes! Thanks for sending your nice Christmas letter. I'm amazed you had time to post it, much less time for genealogy! We homeschool our two girls, and when I have time to wonder, I wonder when I'll get to my genealogy again. Ah well, girlhood is fleeting. Blessings to everyone, Laura

December 1999 Greeting to Our Family & Friends Our wish for you this season is that you are Happy & Healthy. 1999 has been quite a year for our family. I (Tammy) got a job at �Denny�s� here in town, well on my third day Holly breaks her finger playing dodge ball at school (Emergency Room trip #1) on the 4th day of my new job Holly broke her arm rollerblading (E.R. trip #2) on the 5th day of my new job management at Denny�s no longer had a sense of humor, shortest career I ever had! In may we flew to Disney World, All six of us complements of my mother-in-law (what a gift!) I think the best part of the whole trip for the kids was the Limo ride to the airport, I mean there's just something about a car with a T.V. in it! WOW! We also found out in May about my dads cancer, he underwent surgery and it has been a long hard road back for him and my mother too. Charlie�s father is also being treated for cancer with radiation treatments. Keep saying those prayers. Melaine broke her ankle in June (E. R. trip #3), it healed just in time to start back with marching band (she is a Color Guard). Marching band took her to Louisville, KY, Toledo OH, St. Louis, MO, & Indianapolis, IN. In 2000 she will march in the Independence Day Parade in Washington D.C, and will get to visit New York to see a Broadway Play. Melaine is also a member of the High School choir. She will turn 16 on Christmas Day, so a caution to you all STAY OFF THE ROADS!!!! She�s driving! Holly played softball again this summer, she did improve a lot, she played first base. She has continued with Piano, and the stand up bass, and taken up clarinet. Holly made Circle the State Choir again this year (big honor), and is a member of the Willowcreek Middle School Choir. Look out world in December she will be a teenager! Mandy & Betsy were on the same ball team this summer. It was their first year to play and their team got a second place trophy in tournament. Mandy has started playing piano and seems to be doing well. Betsy is in her first play at school this December, she even has lines to memorize. The two of them along with their friend Jessica, were in the talent show at Kyle School, they sang �Girls Just Wanna Have Fun�. They were Awesome! Then there's Buster, the new addition to the family, he�s my little Rat Terrier (Terror) we have had him since he was 6 weeks old. When he was about 10 weeks old he fell on our steps (Vet, E.R. trip #4) He�s a wild thing, but I think I love him. As for Charlie he�s doing well with the exception of Amoco jerking him around with the job situation. It looks like we will be here a few more years anyway. Me, well through all the craziness of 1999 I have survived. On Christmas Eve Charlie & I will celebrate 10 years of wedded Bliss. I only hope we have 10 more as good as this! Have a Wonderful New year & a very Merry Christmas Tammy & Family

Found this on another list, thought I would share. I hope all of you Washington County researchers, family and friends, all have a Wonderful Christmas. Tammy in Indiana On the twelfth day of Christmas, My true love gave to me, Twelve census searches, Eleven printer ribbons, Ten e-mail contacts, Nine headstone rubbings, Eight birth and death dates, Seven town clerks sighing, Six second cousins, Five coats of arms, Four GEDCOM files, Three old wills, Two CD-ROMs And a branch in my family tree. Author unknown

Glad you enjoyed it Ava, Have a wonderful Christmas. Tammy

Thank you Marie and Wayne for your wonderful site. Its been a while since I visited. It is so nice to put a face to people you come to feel you "know". Just wanted to say also that it has taken me a while to contact the list as I have had some luck with my Adams line and have been trying to verify that side which is not from Wash. Co.Happy Holiday to all of you. Emily Adams Matthews

In a message dated 12/18/99 8:37:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > click on the blue > <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/opal29/christmas.html">A Genealogist's > Christmas</A> That was darling, Tammy. I'll be waiting for my copy of that book. I hope Santa knows my address...I've been real good...........well, most of the time....LOL. Ava

click on the blue <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/opal29/christmas.html">A Genealogist's Christmas</A>

Hey Marci, You don't be lookin nuttin like a granny in that picture! You did a great job, pictures and all. Seeing that picture of your granny realy brought back memories of Christmas in Bethalto long long ago. Have a great Christmas Tammy

Happy Holidays to All. Marci has furnished some of her research along with nine photos - including one of herself as a babe; also a recent one. This page is linked on our Washington page under Biographies - Summers at : http://genweb.net/~hinton/wshngtn.html I got this put up rather quickly as a sort of Christmas present, I hope everyone can enjoy this page as much as I hope Marci enjoys seeing it on-line, on her computer. Merry Christmas, Wayne & Marie

Ps. Good looking guy next to you, Marci. You might wanna keep this one....hehehehe.....Love..hugs...Ava