John, Might I suggest that you sign up for the Digest version John, that way, you will only receive 1 e-mail a day. It's a great way also to wade through all the trivialized muck. :-) What you don't like, you can just "X" out. :-) Case in point #1> Your flaming statement to Laura (who by the way is neither confused, sensitive or bored)! Case in point #2> Your comment on the trial transcript which, in my opinion, was beyond a "smart a**" remark, and really not necessary. As to not much on our county having information at your library, have you ever thought to transcribe a census? How about some submissions to RootsWeb? Or IlGenweb? One should really not criticize unless one has contributed something. :-) It is also a shame that you do not want to interact with us. Some of the people on this list have fought for things and principles that you can only dream of. What little information is out there about Washington County had to be fought for, and there are some on this list who take offense to your criticism. Let me point out one thing though, there are many families here representing most of the smaller hamlets of Washington County, and it is to bad that you don't want the trivial things about your family or possibly the families that they interacted with. It is one thing to get a census reading, it is quite another to have a history and feeling for the ones that came before us. I say...."forge" ahead John >:-} And you can "quote" me to your compatriots. Marci Lamar Kasen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Thies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [ILWASHIN] Trivia > Oh, my my, Miss Laura...are we not so > sensitive/confused,bored??? > My point remains. I logged on to subscribe just > a mere 3 days ago. Even signed up for two other sites in Southern > Illinois. Unfortunately, > ILWASH has generated about, including today, > 20 messages. Of the 20, only one was a digest. The others were of a > personal nature. > > Obviously, this meant your site's addressing > is too broad, or it's being misused. > > That is what I meant. Sure wish I had saved > the subject messages for the court case. Wll > I be sent the transcript? > > Well, I must go. Have to check my messages. > Good luck on your research. > > Might mention I spend 2+ days per week at > the No. Independence Genealogical Library > here in Missouri. Your county is not well > represented with information, so I signed onto > this site. My G-grandfather was the village > blacksmth in Nashville for 40 years. > > Have a great year. > > CC: compatriots John O. > > > ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Donations to Rootsweb help provide free genealogy on the internet. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Oh, my my, Miss Laura...are we not so sensitive/confused,bored??? My point remains. I logged on to subscribe just a mere 3 days ago. Even signed up for two other sites in Southern Illinois. Unfortunately, ILWASH has generated about, including today, 20 messages. Of the 20, only one was a digest. The others were of a personal nature. Obviously, this meant your site's addressing is too broad, or it's being misused. That is what I meant. Sure wish I had saved the subject messages for the court case. Wll I be sent the transcript? Well, I must go. Have to check my messages. Good luck on your research. Might mention I spend 2+ days per week at the No. Independence Genealogical Library here in Missouri. Your county is not well represented with information, so I signed onto this site. My G-grandfather was the village blacksmth in Nashville for 40 years. Have a great year. CC: compatriots John O.

Way to go Laura. I've found this list to be both very beneficial for my search for family and at times very humorous, while truely getting to the heart of the matters. It is without a doubt the best and most lively list I belong to. John needs to lighten up and get a life. Verlin "Buck" Rogers [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: ILWASHIN-D Digest V00 #2

What a way to start the new year. Tammy

Merle Bellmer <[email protected]> wrote: Criticism and "flaming" of other people is certainly trivia, in my opinion. Can't people just delete messages that they don't like instead of criticizing the author. Dot Bravo Dot!!....exactly!! It's like the ON/OFF button on the TV....let's not use this list for venting our spleens at each other... Lynn Desparately Seeking Crabtrees ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== Looking for genealogy in other states? Visit the USGenWeb Project at: http://wwww.usgenweb.org/ - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.

Criticism and "flaming" of other people is certainly trivia, in my opinion. Can't people just delete messages that they don't like instead of criticizing the author. Dot

Trivia? and here I had my relatives stop by my house while I was on vacation and read my mail, so I would not overload my server and be bumped from this list, and here I thought all my 130 letters a day were important, perhaps I should thank John too. Happy New Year Darla

Far too many messages that are trivial, personal, etc. Good luck.

Please exclude me from this trivia in future. Thanks.

This is what was told to me by my Aunt........ Spicey Kinyon married James E. Parks in Washington County 1854. This has been confirmed by Delores in a look up in the Looking Back series (Tanks Delores)........ Anyway, Aunt Freida says that on the tombstone of James E, it says......."Gone to Texas".....he never came back ...... On the 1880 census it states that Spicey is now a widow. So James was gone and dead by then. Aunt says that many men went to Texas during that time...... Question.......why did they go??? Too late for the Mexican war.....and it was after the Civil.... Anyone have a clue???? HUGS!! Marci

In a message dated 01/02/2000 10:27:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > This is what was told to me by my Aunt........ > Spicey Kinyon married James E. Parks in Washington County 1854. This has > been confirmed by Delores in a look up in the Looking Back series (Tanks > Delores)........ > Anyway, Aunt Freida says that on the tombstone of James E, it says......." > Gone to Texas".....he never came back ...... > On the 1880 census it states that Spicey is now a widow. So James was gone > and dead by then. > Aunt says that many men went to Texas during that time...... > Question.......why did they go??? Too late for the Mexican war.....and it > was after the Civil.... > Anyone have a clue???? Don't have a clue, Marci. Maybe they went to settle? James Markham the younger also went to Texas but that would have been late 1880's. Maybe it was like going west. If you hear let me know. Interesting material. Thanks for sharing. Love this trivial stuff. It is how facts pop up. Putting the puzzle together. Sharing information with others who may have similar stuff and questions. What I want to know is what is not trivia? It is that tiny little fact that can sometimes piece the whole thing together. That is what happened when Capt. Earl Smith sent me all that material from the Nashville Newspaper on my family names. One tiny fact of a relationship between two people created a domino effect and that is how I had proof of how my great grandmother fitted into the John Phillips household. Later I proved it with other things. Keep on trivialing! :) Ava

John writes: > Please exclude me from this trivia in future. Absolutely. We must keep it on a highly intellectual plane for John and his ilk. He simply can't be bothered with our nonsense. And why has no one asked John before what he considers important?! Here we are talking about stuff we deem important without even realizing it's trivial. I appreciate being shown the error. This has been incredibly thoughtless of all us little people. Perhaps we should run our comments by John first, in a type of pre-approval process. Have a Two Grand that's TOO Grand! (Somebody call Hallmark--this may be card worthy!) Blessings, Laura

Thanks to all that gave me the answers to Dumb Question #1. Marci

Hi Marci! Wanted you to know I loved the pics of you. The baby pic was simply precious. Ibid means in the same place. Ibidem is a Latin word. My good ole Office Encyclopedia came in handy today! Kay from Washington County ----- Original Message ----- From: Ira & Marci <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:56 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] First of the New Year Well, Well......it's the first stupid question of the New Year.....and of course it has to come from me...... On sources......what does "ibid" mean? See, I told you it was stupid......I should know this right???? :-) Marci ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Washington County ILGenWeb genealogy page at: http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

The term ibid, is abbreviation for ibem which means "in the same place" Used in research documentation to indicate the immediately preceding title. the only stupid questions are not asked/ hopes this helps lois ---------- > From: Ira & Marci <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILWASHIN] First of the New Year > Date: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:56 PM > > Well, Well......it's the first stupid question of the New Year.....and of course it has to come from me...... > On sources......what does "ibid" mean? > See, I told you it was stupid......I should know this right???? > :-) > Marci > > > > ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Washington County ILGenWeb genealogy page at: > http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html >

According to Webster's: ibid abbrev. in the same place: used in referring again to the book , page, etc. cited just before.

Russell, You asked for me to keep an eye out for your Aunt's obit.....but you need to tell me her name....... Marci

On the LDS family search sight I found an IGI record for Asa MORGAN b. 2 Jan 1807 Washington Co., Illinois with spouse Elizabeth MCCORD Film # 1239533 Ref. No. 3686 Does anyone out there have a source for this marriage? I believe this could be my ancestor and I have been looking for my Asa's marriage for a long time. Sherry [Ellis] Kyle from near Chicago

Marci, Ava & everyone on the Washington County list, I wish you peace, happiness & health Happy New Year Tammy

Thanks Shirley......Happy New Year to you too!!!!! Marci, Ira, Paddy-Boy and Buddy Love ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley D White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 7:02 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] Happy New Year > Hi Folks, just to wish all of you a wonderful New Year's Eve. I will be > watching the New Year in here and attending my brother's wedding the > following morning early. Guess it will be a busy time for me, hope all is > well with all of you. > > I suppose that all of you know about the new threats to our systems. The > only one that scars me is "Bubble Boy", so watch our for it, if you haven't > all read heard about it. > > I intend to just turn off the computer, unplug the thing until a few days > after. I will be so busy, I won't have time to get on anyway. > > My wish for all of Washing County, Illinois researchers - > > May all your skies be blue and when they are not; may you be covered so > you won't get wet, holding on, so you won't get blown away or just warm when > it is cold, cool when it is hot. > > May all your searches uncover at least one lead and may you find each > person you set your heart and mind to find in 2000. > > May you complete all your goals, and most of all may you not put > impossible demands on yourself. > > May Washington County get all those "Records" copied and put in proper > places on proper paper and entrusted with proper people. May all it records > become readily available to all people who wish to have a look. May the > County be accommodating and friendly to those of us who chose to preserve > History. > > May you find all the graves with readably inscriptions, all records > easily legible and all attendants accommodating. > > May the net pick up more and more Historical Research information and > may the States get in on the band wagon and make it available to us. > > May you be blessed with peace, happiness, health and safety > throughout the year, both you and your families. > > May the Washington County Web Page grow and be blessed with a wealth > of information. > > Well that is my 2 cents worth. It has been a joy reading some of your > messages and I hope in 2000 we will have much more to share. > > HAPPY NEW YEAR 2000 > Shirley White > > > ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Washington County ILGenWeb genealogy page at: > http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html >