"Robert J. Middleton" wrote: > > At 12:58 AM 31/12/99, Russell wrote: > >Is there a genealogical/historical society for Washington County? I > >haven't run across one yet. If there isn't, is there one that serves the > >county anyway? > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > MARISSA HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY > P.O. BOX 47 > MARISSA, ILLINOIS 62257 Hear, hear! The folks at the Marissa Society are fantastic and two members really went out of their way to help me when I visited last summer. They have a website at http://216.189.5.71/marissa/ Betsy Jones Dallas, Texas

At 11:38 PM 07/02/00, you wrote: >I spoke to the secretary at St. Anthony's Catholic parish this afternoon >and obtained a complete listing of the burials in the church graveyard, >which is called Lively Grove cemetery on the Washington County genweb page. > This list is an addition to the wonderful work that the Hintons did on the >one that is on the web. Feel free to place this on the web if you'd like. > >ST. ANTHONY'S CATHOLIC CEMETERY, LIVELY GROVE, ILLINOIS > >Russell D. James >Delta, Colorado >[email protected] > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CORRECTION The information (inventory) of the above mentioned cemetery that was submitted to the ILGenWeb Washington Co. Web Page was submitted by Mr. Ric Nold, and is now in the USGenWeb Archives. Please do not confuse the great HINTON Web Page with the ILGenWeb Washington Co. Web Page. http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html There is only "ONE" USGenWeb, ILGenWeb Washington County Web Page. Thanks, Robert. Robert J. Middleton Nanaimo, Vancouver Island BC Canada Fax/Phone (250) 751-8624 email [email protected] Washington County IL ILGenWeb Co-ordinator Washington County IL Mail List Washington County IL Web Page http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

At 12:58 AM 31/12/99, you wrote: >Is there a genealogical/historical society for Washington County? I >haven't run across one yet. If there isn't, is there one that serves the >county anyway? > >Russell >Russell D. James >Delta, Colorado >[email protected] > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MARISSA HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY P.O. BOX 47 MARISSA, ILLINOIS 62257 Robert J. Middleton Robert J. Middleton Nanaimo, Vancouver Island BC Canada Fax/Phone (250) 751-8624 email [email protected] Washington County IL ILGenWeb Co-ordinator Washington County IL Mail List Washington County IL Web Page http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

Hey Tom, could you please contact me. Would love a little information on how you built your webpage, and using and uploading .txt files Having a bit of trouble here Marci

I will do it for you Russell as I live here in Washington County. Tell me the particulars and I will be only too happy to do it when I am in Nashville on Wednesday! Kay from Washington County ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell D. James <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] will pay for death certificate Now that I have been reminded of the sad fact that Washington County will not release any of its records to IRAD, I am wondering if anyone on this list who lives in Nashville or other places of Washington County would mind going and getting a photocopy of a death certificate for me. I am more than willing to pay the fee for the certificate, postage, and, if needed, a modest amount for gas/travel. If you are willing to do this, please contact me. This person I need the death certificate for could be a link to thousands of other with a similar surname, if only I could find out who his parents were. Much thanks. Russell Russell D. James Delta, Colorado [email protected] ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Washington County ILGenWeb genealogy page at: http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

Got this from another list thought you all maight like it too. Tammy An old man was setting on his porch, when a young man walked up with a pad and pencil in his hand. "What are you selling young man?" he asked. "I'm not selling anything, sir," the young man replied. "I'm a Census Taker." "A what?" the man asked. "A Census Taker. We are trying to find out how many people are in the United States." "Well," the man answered, "you're wasting your time with me, I have no idea."

I had a couple marriage certificates sent to me they only charged a $ 1 a copy and they were quick. I have sent to Washington County IL for death certificates, they only charged me $2 each and I had them in about 14 days. Tammy in Indiana

In a message dated 01/07/2000 9:31:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > His wife, a Gaines whose maiden name > was Markham, had an interesting background too. She had apparently some > Native American blood somewhere in her ancestory plus a gift a story > telling. Some of the family tales would really make for good footage on TV. > > I can't find out any more about their lineage however. Need help, J. > Whoa.....wait a minute .....back up here......This is the same Markham that is supposely related to Marci and me? What about this Native American Blood....stuff?!! Which tribe? From her mother or her father's line?. I want to know everything......... start from the beginning.....and I want all the stories.....Most of my Markham's are good story tellers.... Ava :)

This procedure worked last month to obtain free death certificates for anyone that died in Illinois in 1919 or later. Some counties' records are available prior to that time, but probably not which ever one you want. LOL. By email - You may send email to the IL State Archives for free death records. You can only order 2 at a time, they are uncertified, but they are death certificates and have all the information. Wait until you receive the first two before you request your next two. Send the name, date and location of death to [email protected] Please let me know if you find that they have changed procedures. Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: Russell D. James <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 10:51 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] death certificates???? Anyone had any luck getting death certificates through IRAD from Washington County? Russell Russell D. James Delta, Colorado [email protected] ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== Donations to Rootsweb help provide free genealogy on the internet. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hey All, The following was posted to the Washington County list back in August. An article carried by AP was printed in our local paper on the day before Christmas. I am typing in an excerpt. "A type of DNA long thought to be inherited only from mothers may be influenced by dad afterall, a new analysis indicates. If proven true, scientists may have to rethink some basic beliefs about the timing of human evolution. Estimates of when humans migrated into Asia and Europe and even the age of 'Eve', the earliest common female ancestor, are based on the changes in mitochondrial DNA, which was assumed to come only from mothers. But a report in today's edition of the journal Science casts doubt on this assumption. 'Many inferences about the pattern and tempo of human evolution and (mitochondrial DNA) evolution have been based on the assumption of clonal inheritance. These inferences will now have to be reconsidered,' conclude the researchers led by Philip Awadalla of the University of Edinburgh, Scotland. DNA is the large molecule in each cell that contains the genetic instructions for its development. DNA in the cell nucleus combines material from both mother and father, providing the offspring with traits from both parents. However, there is also DNA in the mitochondria, the energy-producing portions of the cell, and that had been thought to come from mother alone. Knowing the rate at which DNA tends to change, anthropologists have used this DNA to calculate when human populations separated and estimate how long ago there was a single original human 'mother,' whom they call Eve. If it turns out that DNA from mothers and fathers are combining in mitochondria, those dates will have to be recalculated." From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 6:59 PM Subject: [ILWASHIN] myDNA and genealogy > Here is an excerpt from a longer piece. The distaff lines are sometimes so > difficult to trace in many cultures, (including Washington County, Illinois > :-) I just thought many of you would be interested. I did not transmit the > longer piece, but can to anyone who wants it. This will, however, give you > the gist of the thing. Wish I could get to that conference you are all > talking about. heigh-ho, heigh-ho, it's back to school I go. Jerry in Boise > > "Mitochondrial or "myDNA" lasts much longer, possibly because there is > more of it. In some cases myDNA can actually be identified centuries > after the death of the individual. The other significant difference > between the two, and the one of primary interest to genealogists, is > that nuclear DNA changes from one generation to the next, but > mitochondrial DNA can be passed down unchanged on the maternal side of > families for as many as 39 generations. Every woman reading this article > has the same mitochondrial DNA as her mother, her maternal grandmother, > and so on back for an undetermined number of generations. Every man > reading this article has the same mitochondrial DNA as his mother, but > it will not be passed to his daughters; instead, his wife's > mitochondrial DNA will go down in his daughter's lines, and in the lines > of their daughter's daughters. > > Take your pedigree chart and follow your mother's line back as far on > the female lines as you can go. The woman at the end of the chart has > the same mitochondrial DNA as you do. If you are a man, the line stops > with you unless you have sisters to carry it on. If you are a woman the > mitochondrial DNA of your female ancestors will pass down to your > daughters. > > Using DNA from a tooth, Oxford University scientists recently > established a blood tie between a 9,000 year old skeleton know as > "Chedder Man" and an English school teacher who lives just a half mile > from the cave where the bones were found in 1903. It is the longest > human lineage ever traced. As described above, mitochondrial DNA comes > through the maternal line, so the teacher, Adam Targett, is not a direct > descendant of Cheddar Man. He would be related through Cheddar Man's > mother or sister." > > excerpted from an article by Mrs. Alden Davis

Hi, I'm interested in hearing from the individual who is working on the title abstract project. I tried the email address, and it bounced back to me. Because I goofed up and used a .bigfoot.com relay address to sign up and then my actual address, I get two copies of the digest and don't know which to respond with because they are masked. Reply to me at [email protected] Thanks, Jerry in Boise

Some of you may already have this information, but I am sure there are others like me who do not. While at my local library genealogy room I came across these two articles. I would like to share them in hopes that they might help someone in their research. STATUS OF WOMEN - GOOD/BAD Genealogists should be aware of laws and amendments from 1907 to 1916 that determine citizenship for American women and even robbed certain American women of their citizenship. 2 March 1907 - as a result of section 3 of an act of Congress, any American woman who married a man not born in the U.S. assumed the nationality of her husband. 22 Sept. 1922 Congress repealed section 3 but did not restore citizenship. 22 Sept. 1922 - 25 June 1936 - A native born American woman who married a man of foreign birth was required to do the following to regain her citizenship: file a petition for citizenship; provide proof and witnesses to the facts of her petition and character; take an oath of allegiance, and receive a certificate of naturalization. 25 June 1936 - a woman who married a foreigner was required to prove that she was born in the USA, that she had lost her citizenship by marriage to an alien and that the marriage had ended. She then took an oath of allegiance, using Form2234. Two copies of this form were filed, one in the court where the naturalization occurred and the other with the Naturalization Service. 3 March 1931 - a woman no longer acquired citizenship through marriage to a citizen or through the naturalization of her husband. Instead, she could achieve citizenship independently by fulfilling all of the requirements (46 Stats.1511, Sec 2). After march 1931, marriage to an alien did not dictate that a woman lose her citizenship, unless she formally renounced her citizenship in a court of law (46 Stat.1511, Sec.3a). An understanding of these acts of congress may answer questions about the nationality of your female ancestor. Irish Gen. Quarterly, March'88 Vol 7; Carlton G.S. April '99 ADOPTION RECORDS These records did not become confidential until July 8, 1941 when Act 1941, Chapter 146, Section 6 became effective. Legislation pertaining to adoptions that had been enacted prior to 1941, focused on the issure of providing legal proof to heirship to that the adopted child become an heir at law of the adoptive parents. The intent of the pre 1941 legislation was to make the adoption a public matter. All adoptions prior to 1941 were recorded in the civic or probate order book which were and are public records. Records pertaining to adoptions after July 8, 1941, are confidential: All court orders, judgments, case filed, etc. pertaining to post 1941 adoptions are to remain confidential. Zion, IL G.S. '95; Carlton Co G.S. Feb '99

Wayne's questions on the "modernization" of Nashville are great. I'll contribute what I remember when living in Nashville (1940s-1960) and share what I've run across when going through old Nashville Newspapers. "When did telephone service arrive?" I have no idea when phone service started in Nashville, but I remember as young girl (in the late 1940s) picking up the phone, getting an operator, and telling her I wanted to speak to my father or grandfather (who owned and worked at the monument business on Main Street). The operators, who were in Nashville and were known by everyone by first names, often could connect the calls without the person calling to give out the phone number (although each phone did have a number something like "41W"). I think the dial system arrived in the early to mid-1950s. We had a "party line" with our neighbor, and I remember often picking up the phone to use it and they were already on the line. You could, of course, listen in on their conversation but that was definitely unacceptable. My family may have shared a line with them for a year or so until we (or perhaps the phone system) switched to all "private" lines. "When was the automobile taking over as the preferred of transportation?" I have pictures of my grandmother and other family members with cars taken somewhere between 1912 to 1916. I don't think there was much a road system in place at that time though, since articles appear in the Nashville Journal in the early 1930s about bids being taken on where the various state routes would be built. Even though cars were the primary transportation as long as I can remember it was not uncommon to still see horses used for transportation in Nashville in the 1940s. My husband lived behind Wayne Hinton's grandfather's house (across from the "old" high school) and has fond memories of Mr. Hinton's horses. And, after we were married and living in Champaign in 1963, our milk was delivered to our apartment by a man driving a horse drawn wagon! Speaking of deliveries, milk was also delivered in Nashville until the mid-1950s. I was still living at home when it stopped and I remember my mom was upset that she then had to go to the "store" for the products. My mother had a standing order for delivery, which was at least a couple of times a week. If there was any change to that order, she would leave a note in one of the milk bottles on the porch prior to that day's delivery. The trick was to be aware when the delivery was made so you could get the milk immediately into the refrigerator! Otherwise it would sit outside and freeze in the winter (!!) or get really warm in the summer which (in my thinking) was questionable whether it was fit to drink. Milk was delivered in glass bottles and it was from the local distributor, Lorenz, whose plant was across from the L&N depot. Also, I'm sure some of you remember that there were a few weeks in the spring the milk always had a "sour" taste from change in diet for the cows, I assume. "Street Lights, Traffic Signals, Speed Limits, Paved Streets?" For those of you who have been to Nashville, you know there is only one traffic light, at the intersection of Routes 127 and 15. That was a blinking red light up until 15-20 years ago. It was a "radical" change for the older residents of the town who weren't use to dealing with waiting for a light to change colors. In the 1940s and '50s, the streets were "oiled" in the summer. A notice was given to the residents as to when their street would be oiled and if you needed to use your car, it was best to pull it out of the driveway and definitely off the street and parked somewhere else for the day. A truck would drive up and down the street covering it with a spray of oil. Once the oil was put down a dump truck with "chat" (a course rock) would drive over the surface and spread the "chat". Often there would be a lag time between the time the oil truck finished spreading the oil and the "chat" truck arrived. That's when the kids (who weren't afraid of being "strongly reprimanded" later!) would go into the street, some with bare feet of course, or on bicycles, and "play." The new surface would dry within a few hours but it was still pretty messy for a few days after the application. And, air pollution wasn't an issue in the 1950s. In the summer, especially a very wet one, trucks would drive up and down the streets with a fogger spray to kill the mosquito; and in the fall everyone raked leaves and then burned them in the street. And I have no idea when electricity first arrived in Nashville, but our son gave us a picture post card at Christmas he purchased on e-bay of the "Ice and Electric Light Plant" in Nashville. The card was mail in August 1914. I have NO idea where this building was located but plan to send it to a couple of people who are 90 years old still living in Nashville to try and get more information about it. I'll share what information I get back from them. Jo

Jan 5th 2000: It Happened Here 65 years ago (1935) A live elctrical wire dropped into the coal seam caused a fire at the old workings of the Clarkson Coal Mining company in Nashville. Workman labored 10 hours to build stoppings to seal the fire. No injuries were reported. Henry F. Holzhauer announced that he was a Republican candidate for re-election as Supervisor in Nashville Twp. Fred Hoppe and John Stieg announced their candidacy for highway commissioner in Nashville Twp. Both were Republicans. A total of 164 men were working at work relief jobs in the county. Linda Lee Rinne, 11, daughter of Mr. and Mrs, Oscar Rinne of Nashville was awarded third place national honors at the 4H Club Congress held in Chicago. Linda's complete school outfit won first place at the state display in the summer. Deaths: Henry Lutz formerly of Nashville. The baby son of Mr and Mrs Frank Kamadulski of Nashville. Phillip Williamson of Rice. William Tubbs of Geff. August Eidemann formerly of Venedy. It Happened Here 60 years ago (1940) Fire of an undetermined origin New Year's night burned to the ground the 2 story frame home of Gilbert Haun, one mile east of Ashley. Nashville defeated Hoyleton, 40-13 to win the annual County Grade school basketball tourney. The mercury hit 2 degrees below zero New Years night, the coldest recording in 4 years. No damage was reported to the peach and apple crop. A coroner's jury ruled the Dec 25th shooting death of Steve Rozlowski, a 26 year old farm hand who resided on the Oscar Secker farm in Pilot Knob Twp, a suicide. Dr. S. P. Schroeder, a prominent physician died unexpectedly. Ed Barrett of Ashley died of rabbit fever. Other deaths: Mrs Henry Finke of Nashville. Charles Wheeler, brother of Mrs T. E. Allen of Nashville. John Grimm formerly of New Minden. Mrs. Lena Ferguson (nee Barton) a native of Irvington. G. A. Stahmer of Hoyleton. Mrs. Josephine Rountree of Ashley. Mrs Alma Osiek became the bride of Wilbert Weeke, Dec. 19th. ****Other Possible Researched Names mentioned***** 1945: Deaths: Attorney H. H. House of Nashville. David Needles of Richview. Dietrich Buhr of Okawville. Ida Bunce (nee Topping) formerly of Ashley. Mrs. Henry Buss of Lively Grove. Mrs Henry Holle of Hoyleton. 1950: Deaths: Bart Evilsizer formerly of DuBois. William Wetzel of Beaucoup. Henry Kombrink of Irvington. Mrs. Louise Kleeman formerly of Nashville. Miss Maude Boyd of Oakdale.

In an attempt to answer the question posed by : [email protected] Usually we know or think we know that an anscestor should be buried in a certain cemetery. A lot of times it is just a "gut feeling" and a hope to find a small bit of information. This time, on the 15th, it will be anybody's guess; as a cemetery trip in January is almost unheard of for Illinois. Actually this trip is for listing "Resources Available" and looking up a few items at the request of others; along with a general "get-together" and meeting with those we e-communicate with. Please send any information requests privately rather than "clog" this list. Thanks, Wayne

Welcome Back Floyd, Now that you are closer, you may wish to consider Saturday, January 15th as a day for a little trip to Nashville. Several of us are planning a research "Meet" at the library. At this moment there are five "definitites" and a couple of "maybes". The weather forecast looks promising. Arrival = any time (preferably morning), Lunch = probably Italian, Afternoon = Library or possibly a cemetery, Evening = whatever seems appropriate Hope to see many of "Us" Washington County Researchers there. Please e-mail me privately with any other questions or comments, and oh yes a confirmation of plans to attend would be great to know. Thanks. Wayne [email protected] [email protected] http://genweb.net/~hinton/ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/3564 http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/hindmarsh/117/index.htm http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/hinton/index.html http://www.litchfieldil.com/members/whinton/ http://members.xoom.com/whinton/

My my my! How I've missed my daily doses of Genemail! We're settling down right over here in Owensville, IN, and are a heck of a lot closer now. Matter of fact, just last Sunday my wife and I buzzed over to Salem to visit my 88 year old uncle. Stopped off in Mt. Vernon for lunch; showed my wife where the library is. Gonna get over to Walnut Hill pretty soon to visit my newfound 2nd cousin. How are things going over at the courthouse in Nashville? Got a lot of catching up to do. Glad to be back; see you all around. Floyd

The 15th sounds like a great learning experience. Do you simply walk around the cemetery looking for dead relatives or do you have plot numbers? I so want to learn about some of my past. My grandfather was a Pape from Washington County. What a colorful character. He was a bootlegger in Marion County during the Prohibition Years. His wife, a Gaines whose maiden name was Markham, had an interesting background too. She had apparently some Native American blood somewhere in her ancestory plus a gift a story telling. Some of the family tales would really make for good footage on TV. I can't find out any more about their lineage however. Need help, J.

> Hi, I am researching the McCalip name from Washington Co,and Jefferson County,IL Joseph McCalip mar Tabitha George 01-24-1856 in Jefferson Co,but lived in Washington Co later. Joseph was the father to these children,Tabitha was their stepmother. William Jasper McCalip mar.Mary M.Smith 02-16-1858 John McCalip mar. Catharine Bryant 04-17-1858. Nellie(Ellen) McCalip mar. James F.Newcomb in 1865.Washington CO Then Joseph and Tabitha had 3 kids; Lizzie(Mary)born in 1858, mar. Simeon Newcomb abt.1880-Washington Co. Kate McCalip and Martha McCalip????? If any one could help with this,that would be great! Thank you, Jannita Weidenbach email;[email protected]

Harlean, I saw your letter on the Washington County net. I am interested in any information you have from Abstract Title of Property on the surname "Staley" The names I have are Abram Staley 1834-1897 & his wife Sarah Staley, 1859-1936; Albert Staley, 1878-1926 and Logan Staley 1867-1928. I would appreciate any information you could provide on anyone in the Staley family. Dennis K. Howard > ---------- > From: Harlean Fries[SMTP:[email protected]] > Reply To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILWASHIN] ABSTRACT TITLE OF PROPERTY > > This evening while sorting out some old family papers I ran across what > seems to be a copy of where to find the abstract title to property. It > lists the volumn, date and what type of book. Some of the surnames > listed are Ayers, Roberts, Girells,Staley, Burnet,Neulist,McClurken, > Bandelier, Muelheims, and Billings. If anyone is interested please > e-mail me directly. > I am researching the surnames Mayer, Gilbert, Pertuisot, Hamill in > Washington County. > Have a good New year everyone. > Harlean in Escondido CA > > > ==== ILWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Looking for genealogy in other states? Visit the USGenWeb Project at: > http://wwww.usgenweb.org/ >