Tammy, I thought the redneck census was funny, but I've been so busy I haven't been able to read the list lately (I'm saving them for the end of the semester, when I can work on such things). Did you get some private nasty-grams about the census? Please, don't be afraid to inject humor. We're adults here, I think, and should be able to handle it. Those who can't, are the ones who should leave the list, not you. I know what it's like to post a message and be taken totally wrong, and catch flak from listers. I've put my foot in it more than once, which is not to say that you did anything wrong, but just that printed text can be much more easily misunderstood than spoken conversation. Anyway, hang in there. Doug > To the list, > I sent the joke on the REDNECK census only because this was a census year and > I thought it would make some of you smile. Evidently it was against the law > and it won't happen again. > Ava & Marci, Wayne and Marie, please keep my email address and keep me > informed off this list as I am unsubscribing. > I will be in Nashville Wednesday to do research, will any of you be ther. > Its been fun but I'm done! > Tammy Clark > >

Hello Sandi, Sorry it has taken me this long to get back with you. This past week has found me in Springfield, IL., touching base with Senator Ned Mitchell and Rep. Larry Woolard on the proposed burial site legislation and funding for public libraries. Then to Evansville, IN., (Willard Library) genealogy conf. and book sale, and now home for tomorrow's meeting of the G.S.S.I. at John A. Logan College. Now to answer your question. "Where can I order this Census?" It can be ordered from: G.S.S.I., c/o John A. Logan College 700 Logan College Road Carterville, IL. 62918-9599 Washington County 1865 State Census. Complete-name index, 162 pages. Hard Cover--$20., Soft Cover-- $15. Prices include shipping. Make check out to the G.S.S.I. Please allow 3-4 weeks for delivery. If you have any questions please get back with me. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [ILWASHIN] Fw: 1860 WASHINGTON CO., IL., CENSUS >In a message dated 3/31/2000 2:45:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Note: The G.S.S.I. has published the 1865 State Census of Washington > >Co., IL: Hard - $20.00, Soft - $15.00, postage paid. >> >where can i order this Census? >

Please send me the web site address of Will Franklin. Is there a Suiter web site? Thanks. Nancy

In a message dated 3/31/2000 2:45:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Note: The G.S.S.I. has published the 1865 State Census of Washington >Co., IL: Hard - $20.00, Soft - $15.00, postage paid. >> where can i order this Census?

-----Original Message----- From: levanti <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: 1860 WASHINGTON CO., IL., CENSUS >Washington County, IL 1860 Census compiled by Kay JETTON & Elda JONES. >The information in this book includes household #, names of each >individual, age, occupation, place of birth, and township. The page >numbers entered on census by census bureau are also included for easy >reference if you have to double check the microfilm. >The book contains 124 pages & surname index. Spiral bound - $25.00, >postage paid. >Order: Marissa Historical & Genealogical Society, Dept SI, POB 47, >Marissa, IL. 62257. > >Note: The G.S.S.I. has published the 1865 State Census of Washington >Co., IL: Hard - $20.00, Soft - $15.00, postage paid. > >Bill >

Hi All: The 1860 Washington Co. Census is now available in spiral bound book form. It's a total of abt. 138 8.5X11 pages and is indexed. It is in this format: (a sample) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Page 868, Township 3 South Range 5 West 1514. Brocksmith, G. A. 42m farmer Hanover Catherine M. 45 Prussia G. H. 13m MO Christ F. 8 MO C. W. 3m IL Foster, John 16 frm lbr OH Shepard, Adam 18 frm lbr Germany ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ (the above would mean that Foster & Shepherd are are living at the home of Brocksmith as farm labour.) Cost, $25.00 U.S. ppd From: Marissa Hist. & Gen. Soc. P.O. Box 47 Marissa, IL 62257 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Robert John Middleton 4044-A Apsley Ave. Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9T 2C6 Fax/Phone (250) 751-8624 email [email protected] The ILGenWeb Project Washington Co. co-ordinator. My GENEALOGY home page URL is: http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html Member, St. Clair County Genealogical Society Member, Marissa Genealogical and Historical Society, serving St. Clair, Washington, Randolph, and Perry Counties IL

In a message dated 3/31/2000 2:45:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << The G.S.S.I. has published the 1865 State Census of Washington >Co., IL: Hard - $20.00, Soft - $15.00, postage paid. > >> Who is the G S S I and the address. sandi

Is anyone on these two lists a member of the Marissa Historical Society? They have a book on Washington County Cemeteries offered for sale but I don't want to just buy a list or location maps of the cemeteries. So...I'm wondering, does anyone know if this book contains cemetery grave marker listings? Russell

>From another list.....maybe helpful: At the website of Ancestry.com there is a free offer to search the 1890 Cesus Substitute. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm

To the list, I sent the joke on the REDNECK census only because this was a census year and I thought it would make some of you smile. Evidently it was against the law and it won't happen again. Ava & Marci, Wayne and Marie, please keep my email address and keep me informed off this list as I am unsubscribing. I will be in Nashville Wednesday to do research, will any of you be ther. Its been fun but I'm done! Tammy Clark

I recently update my webpage with several old family letters dating back as far as 1859. Most describe farm life in the 1880's in Southern Illinois and some include documentation on ancestors from Ireland and Scotland. They provide a fascinating glimpse into the rural life in that era and also mention several families from Washington, St.Clair, or Randolph Counties in Illinois and from the area of Renfrewshire, Scotland. Some of the family names mentioned: Aken / Aiken, Armour, Beavers, Combs, Coningham, Coulter, Dickey, Downie, Drury, Garret, Gibson, Gillespie, Habler, Hemphill, Kennedy, Kingston, Little, McBride, McCauley, McDougal, McIntyre, McMillian, McWilliam, Mearns, Millard, Morrow, Mulholland, Parel, Patton, Pollock, Rigor, Shanklin / Shankland, Shay, Skelly, Stevenson, Telfer / Telford, Ulrichs, Wallace, Weinmann, Wilson, and Young. There are also a few old photos of some of these families. One is a school picture of the students of Gravel Hill School in West Gran Cote, Washington County, Illinois from about 1920. The letters and pictures can be viewed by using the links at the bottom of this page: http://www.StevensonFamily.com Regards, Tom Stevenson -- http://www.GenealogySource.com Stevenson genealogy page at: http://www.StevensonFamily.com Drury genealogy page at: http://www.DruryFamily.com Gideon genealogy page at: http://www.GideonFamily.com Researching AUBUCHON*CARON*DRURY*GIDEON*GIDLEY* HAYDEN*HEMPHILL*LOGAN*LYONS*McCAULEY*McKINNEY* POLLOCK*REID*SANDS*STEVENSON*TELFORD*TUTTLE*WOODS

--part1_57.381c3fa.260f99b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << Redneck Census Form * Editor's note: This would be offensive to rednecks ...if they could read! (I take no credit for this one.) Last name: ________________ First name: (Check appropriate box) [_] Billy-Bob [_] Bobby-Sue [_] Billy-Joe [_] Bobby-Jo [_] Billy-Ray [_] Bobby-Ann [_] Billy-Sue [_] Bobby-Lee [_] Billy-Mae [_] Bobby-Ellen [_] Billy-Jack [_] Bobby-Beth Ann Sue Age: ____ (if unsure, guess) Sex: ____ M _____ F _____ Not sure Shoe Size: ____ Left ____ Right Occupation: [_] Farmer [_] Mechanic [_] Hair Dresser [_] Waitress [_] Un-employed [_] Dirty Politician Spouse's Name:__________________________ 2nd Spouse's Name:__________________________ 3rd Spouse's Name: __________________________ Relationship with spouse: [_] Sister [_] Aunt [_] Brother [_] Uncle [_] Mother [_] Son [_] Father [_] Daughter [_] Cousin [_] Pet Mother's Name: _______________________ Father's Name:_____________________(If not sure, leave blank) Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed) Do you [_] own or [_] rent your mobile home? (Check appropriate box) Vehicles you own and where you keep them: ___ Total number of vehicles you own ___ Number of vehicles that still start ___ Number of vehicles in front yard ___ Number of vehicles in back yard ___ Number of vehicles on cement blocks Firearms you own and where you keep them: ____ truck ____ kitchen ____ bedroom ____ bathroom ____ shed Model and year of your pickup:_____________ 194____ Do you have a gun rack? [_] Yes [_] No If no, please explain:_______________________________ Newspapers/magazines you subscribe to: [_] The National Enquirer [_] The Globe [_] TV Guide [_] Soap Opera Digest [_] Rifle and Shotgun ___ Number of times you've seen a UFO ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis in a UFO How often do you bathe: [_] Weekly [_] Monthly [_] Not Applicable How many teeth? __________ Color of teeth: [_] Green [_] Brownish-Yellow [_] Brown [_] Black [_] N/A Brand of chewing tobacco you prefer: [_] Red-Man How far is your home from a paved road? [_] 1 mile [_] 2 miles [_] don't know >> --part1_57.381c3fa.260f99b5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (rly-yh03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.35]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:21:24 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (v70.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:20:55 -0500 Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28362; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 08:20:24 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 08:20:24 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun Mar 26 08:20:22 2000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:28:21 -0500 From: Jean Z Koehler <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Dorothy <[email protected]>, Laura <[email protected]>, census list <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CENSUS] [Fwd: Redneck Census Form] Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/4524 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] >From another list: Redneck Census Form * Editor's note: This would be offensive to rednecks ...if they could read! (I take no credit for this one.) Last name: ________________ First name: (Check appropriate box) [_] Billy-Bob [_] Bobby-Sue [_] Billy-Joe [_] Bobby-Jo [_] Billy-Ray [_] Bobby-Ann [_] Billy-Sue [_] Bobby-Lee [_] Billy-Mae [_] Bobby-Ellen [_] Billy-Jack [_] Bobby-Beth Ann Sue Age: ____ (if unsure, guess) Sex: ____ M _____ F _____ Not sure Shoe Size: ____ Left ____ Right Occupation: [_] Farmer [_] Mechanic [_] Hair Dresser [_] Waitress [_] Un-employed [_] Dirty Politician Spouse's Name:__________________________ 2nd Spouse's Name:__________________________ 3rd Spouse's Name: __________________________ Relationship with spouse: [_] Sister [_] Aunt [_] Brother [_] Uncle [_] Mother [_] Son [_] Father [_] Daughter [_] Cousin [_] Pet Mother's Name: _______________________ Father's Name:_____________________(If not sure, leave blank) Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed) Do you [_] own or [_] rent your mobile home? (Check appropriate box) Vehicles you own and where you keep them: ___ Total number of vehicles you own ___ Number of vehicles that still start ___ Number of vehicles in front yard ___ Number of vehicles in back yard ___ Number of vehicles on cement blocks Firearms you own and where you keep them: ____ truck ____ kitchen ____ bedroom ____ bathroom ____ shed Model and year of your pickup:_____________ 194____ Do you have a gun rack? [_] Yes [_] No If no, please explain:_______________________________ Newspapers/magazines you subscribe to: [_] The National Enquirer [_] The Globe [_] TV Guide [_] Soap Opera Digest [_] Rifle and Shotgun ___ Number of times you've seen a UFO ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis ___ Number of times you've seen Elvis in a UFO How often do you bathe: [_] Weekly [_] Monthly [_] Not Applicable How many teeth? __________ Color of teeth: [_] Green [_] Brownish-Yellow [_] Brown [_] Black [_] N/A Brand of chewing tobacco you prefer: [_] Red-Man How far is your home from a paved road? [_] 1 mile [_] 2 miles [_] don't know --part1_57.381c3fa.260f99b5_boundary--

Hi All: 1860 Washington County Census $25.00 postage paid Marissa Historical & Genealogical Society P.O. Box 47 Marissa, IL 62257 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I goofed and sent my old address instead of my new one in Ladysmith BC. New one should be below in the signature. Robert Robert J. Middleton Box 1114 Ladysmith, Vancouver Island BC Canada V9G 1A8 Phone (250) 245-5643 email [email protected] Washington County IL ILGenWeb Co-ordinator Washington County IL Mail List Washington County IL Web Page http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

Thanks Robert. Please let us know more details on this census book. Thanks for all you do to keep us able to work on researching our family tree. How is the grandfathering coming along. You didn't move to be closer to the baby did you? Kay from Washington County ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert J. Middleton <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 4:29 AM Subject: [ILWASHIN] "NEWS" Hi All: The Marissa Hist. & Gen. Society has just published the 1860 Washington County census. It's 125 pages in I think spiral bound book form, and is for sale for $25.00 postage paid. On a personal note, it seems to me that "Marissa" is the only Hist. Soc. that supports research or researchers for Washington Co., so I will help support them. Not sure when mine will arrive in the mail so I can give you more details. I have just completed my move to Ladysmith on Vancouver Island, my new address is in the signature. Stay well, Robert. Robert John Middleton 4044-A Apsley Ave. Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9T 2C6 Fax/Phone (250) 751-8624 email [email protected] The ILGenWeb Project Washington Co. co-ordinator. My GENEALOGY home page URL is: http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html Member, St. Clair County Genealogical Society Member, Marissa Genealogical and Historical Society, serving St. Clair, Washington, Randolph, and Perry Counties IL

In a message dated 03/21/2000 10:13:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > In the Nashville News it states that in 1950 "The City of Nashville took > possession of the abandoned cemetery on East Main Street. The latest date > the cemetery had been used for burial was the 1840's and the City determined > no need to move bodies because all had deteriorated" > > Does anyone have any idea what cemetery this was? Who was buried there? > Any idea where it was?? DANG!!!! probably where all my missing are...... :) Ava

Good morning, I have been told by a researcher in Franklin Co., IL that it was not uncommon for Franklin Co. residents to get married in Washington Co. My great grandparents lived near Sesser in Franklin Co. Their two older daughters were married between 1909 and 1912, but neither Franklin nor Jefferson Co. have these records. Would someone be able to look up this information? Emily/Emilia ABRASSART, b. 1894 in Belgium m. unknown in 1910-11. Elise ABRASSART b. 1891 Belgium m. Victor TRAVERSAZ 1909-10 The Washington Co. GenWeb page didn't mention a look-up person for marriages; and they said the Court House preferred research to be done in person. Perhaps, if the records are there, and I have the proper reference numbers; I could write for copies without inconveniencing the staff too much? Thanks for any help you can give. Barbara Moses [email protected]

Hi All: The Marissa Hist. & Gen. Society has just published the 1860 Washington County census. It's 125 pages in I think spiral bound book form, and is for sale for $25.00 postage paid. On a personal note, it seems to me that "Marissa" is the only Hist. Soc. that supports research or researchers for Washington Co., so I will help support them. Not sure when mine will arrive in the mail so I can give you more details. I have just completed my move to Ladysmith on Vancouver Island, my new address is in the signature. Stay well, Robert. Robert John Middleton 4044-A Apsley Ave. Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9T 2C6 Fax/Phone (250) 751-8624 email [email protected] The ILGenWeb Project Washington Co. co-ordinator. My GENEALOGY home page URL is: http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html Member, St. Clair County Genealogical Society Member, Marissa Genealogical and Historical Society, serving St. Clair, Washington, Randolph, and Perry Counties IL

At 10:27 PM 21/03/00 -0600, MARCI wrote >In the Nashville News it states that in 1950 "The City of Nashville took possession of the abandoned cemetery on East Main Street. The latest date the cemetery had been used for burial was the 1840's and the City determined no need to move bodies because all had deteriorated" > >Does anyone have any idea what cemetery this was? Who was buried there? Any idea where it was?? > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Marci If this is true, Is there any record of the names in that cemetery ??????????????? Robert John Middleton 4044-A Apsley Ave. Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9T 2C6 Fax/Phone (250) 751-8624 email [email protected] The ILGenWeb Project Washington Co. co-ordinator. My GENEALOGY home page URL is: http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html Member, St. Clair County Genealogical Society Member, Marissa Genealogical and Historical Society, serving St. Clair, Washington, Randolph, and Perry Counties IL

In the Nashville News it states that in 1950 "The City of Nashville took possession of the abandoned cemetery on East Main Street. The latest date the cemetery had been used for burial was the 1840's and the City determined no need to move bodies because all had deteriorated" Does anyone have any idea what cemetery this was? Who was buried there? Any idea where it was??

The transcription of the Madison Co IL 1870 Federal Census in completed and is in book form. If interested in purchasing a copy, please E-mail me privately at: [email protected] along with your mailing address so a flyer can be mailed to you with the price and information contained in this publication as well as a form to fill out for ordering.