This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Wh.2ADE/1853 Message Board Post: that would be mine they all came from germany, around the black forest and weisaban if i spelled that right. we have been to all the cemetries in southern illinois my mom still lives there so she looks all the time and we have found some that are still living.