Cheryl, I thank you for finding this. I scanned through my copy of the records, but did not find this entry. I'm sure this is where my entry came from for Joseph and Susannah, but I also show a Hannah Lucas joining in December 1828, and a "Sister Lucas" joining in June 1829. Also Thomas and Sarah Lucas in December 1829. I don't consider this "Susannah" conclusive proof that it is not the same Joseph being dismissed in 1838, as the clerk could have been a little confused, if he was not related, although I agree it may not be too likely. Admittedly, there are some loose ends in the records, - plus, my copy of the records has a gap between 1834 and 1836, actually it appears there is a gap between two different record books. Several things have happened in this time, for example, the pastor Elder Charles Harper disappears from our sight and is seen no more. I took a closer look at ALL the Lucas family in my database earlier today, and will mention that there were the following who were members of Little Flock church in Cass county (the records of which do exist) - John (d. abt. 1859), joined 1840; Mary, joined 1859; Sarah W., joined in 1876; Sarah, joined in 1896; and William, d. abt. 1873, joined 1853. I also show a Peter Lucas as a member of Lebanon Church in Logan County. The other entries are in other areas of the state, except for Lake Fork and Pleasant Grove which we have been discussing. I am compiling some history of the Pleasant Grove Church, from what few sources I have. Since it had 54 members by the mid-1830's, I would hope there might be a deed for a meeting house, which would be another source. Elm Grove and Tremont townships are evidently the most likely candidates for its location. Sincerely, Robert On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:33:58 -0500 "Cheryl Rothwell" <LoganCty@mindspring.com> writes: > We don't really know when Joseph died but I think it safe to say it > was > before 1880. He was born in 1786 so even if he was alive he wasn't > traveling > about for a church. > > From the Lake Fork records: > Joseph Lucas Letters of dis. Dec 1838 for he and Susannah, his > wife > > I don't think it is the same Joseph Lucas though as his wife was > Sarah and > since most of the members were related to each other in one way or > another > it seems unlikely they would mess up her name. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > I don't have my list of members of Lake Fork church at home, but > will > try to check to see where my entry came from, tomorrow. > I show a Joseph Lucas as a member of Bethel Indian Grove Church, > but > his name appears in the association minutes of 1880, which could > well > mean a later generation Joseph Lucas than the one referred to above. > This > Joseph Lucas was chosen as a messenger several times, the latest I > have > record of was in 1888. This church, at this time, was not in McLean > Co. > (although it originally - 1832 - was located in that county), but by > 1860 > this church had moved its regular meetings to Indian Grove in > Livingston > County, south of Fairbury. > More later, after I have opportunity to check my entry on Lake > Fork. > Sincerely, > Robert > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:49:19 -0500 "Cheryl Rothwell" > <LoganCty@mindspring.com> writes: > > Joseph Lucas, son of Abraham Lucas and Marcy Kelsey Lucas, moved > from > > Caesars Creek Baptist in Greene County, Ohio, to Indian Run > Baptist, > > also > > Greene County, Ohio, and then to Illinois. He settled for a period > > in Irish > > Grove Township, Menard County, [1825-1830] then briefly at Pekin > in > > Tazewell > > County, then to Corwin Township, Logan County, then Broadwell > > Township, > > Logan County [1839]. His parents and siblings were in Logan > County. > > > > It is likely he was in Tazewell in 1833. He had a son named Peter > P. > > I don't > > know what happened to Peter P. but he could be the name on your > > list. > > > > There is no evidence Joseph was ever in McLean County. Members of > > his family > > were part of the Lake Fork Church but I don't believe this Joseph > > was. > > > > Cheryl Rothwell > > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Thomas is a younger brother of Joseph and Sarah Hoblit is his wife. I don't believe the Lucases in Cass County are connected to the Lucases in Logan County. I think the Peter Lucas you mention is from another Lucas family also. He came from another county -- I forget which -- and managed to settle among the Lucases in the Rocky Ford area. He is said to have given the land for Lucas Chapel cemetery although they were burying folks there before he arrived on the scene. The original owner of the land appears to have been Solomon Wood who was married to Phebe Lucas, a sister to Thomas and Joseph above. Wood, Turner, Copeland, Lucas, etc. all came from Greene County, Ohio. If you wish to continue this conversation where it no longer relates to Tazewell I suggest you take it to the Logan [or other appropriate county] list -- the Tazewell researchers probably aren't interested. [If you are, let me know. I'm related to every name mentioned. <g>] Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com I took a closer look at ALL the Lucas family in my database earlier today, and will mention that there were the following who were members of Little Flock church in Cass county (the records of which do exist) - John (d. abt. 1859), joined 1840; Mary, joined 1859; Sarah W., joined in 1876; Sarah, joined in 1896; and William, d. abt. 1873, joined 1853. I also show a Peter Lucas as a member of Lebanon Church in Logan County. The other entries are in other areas of the state, except for Lake Fork and Pleasant Grove which we have been discussing. I am compiling some history of the Pleasant Grove Church, from what few sources I have. Since it had 54 members by the mid-1830's, I would hope there might be a deed for a meeting house, which would be another source. Elm Grove and Tremont townships are evidently the most likely candidates for its location. Sincerely, Robert On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:33:58 -0500 "Cheryl Rothwell" <LoganCty@mindspring.com> writes: > We don't really know when Joseph died but I think it safe to say it > was > before 1880. He was born in 1786 so even if he was alive he wasn't > traveling > about for a church. > > From the Lake Fork records: > Joseph Lucas Letters of dis. Dec 1838 for he and Susannah, his > wife > > I don't think it is the same Joseph Lucas though as his wife was > Sarah and > since most of the members were related to each other in one way or > another > it seems unlikely they would mess up her name. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > I don't have my list of members of Lake Fork church at home, but > will > try to check to see where my entry came from, tomorrow. > I show a Joseph Lucas as a member of Bethel Indian Grove Church, > but > his name appears in the association minutes of 1880, which could > well > mean a later generation Joseph Lucas than the one referred to above. > This > Joseph Lucas was chosen as a messenger several times, the latest I > have > record of was in 1888. This church, at this time, was not in McLean > Co. > (although it originally - 1832 - was located in that county), but by > 1860 > this church had moved its regular meetings to Indian Grove in > Livingston > County, south of Fairbury. > More later, after I have opportunity to check my entry on Lake > Fork. > Sincerely, > Robert > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:49:19 -0500 "Cheryl Rothwell" > <LoganCty@mindspring.com> writes: > > Joseph Lucas, son of Abraham Lucas and Marcy Kelsey Lucas, moved > from > > Caesars Creek Baptist in Greene County, Ohio, to Indian Run > Baptist, > > also > > Greene County, Ohio, and then to Illinois. He settled for a period > > in Irish > > Grove Township, Menard County, [1825-1830] then briefly at Pekin > in > > Tazewell > > County, then to Corwin Township, Logan County, then Broadwell > > Township, > > Logan County [1839]. His parents and siblings were in Logan > County. > > > > It is likely he was in Tazewell in 1833. He had a son named Peter > P. > > I don't > > know what happened to Peter P. but he could be the name on your > > list. > > > > There is no evidence Joseph was ever in McLean County. Members of > > his family > > were part of the Lake Fork Church but I don't believe this Joseph > > was. > > > > Cheryl Rothwell > > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!