Dear List, I can't believe it, but I believe I am coming back to Tazewell County again for information on another branch of my husband's tree. The first was for John Maxwell and descendents. Now I find that John and Prudence Moore very well might also have been there in the 1820s and 1830s. Actually, they bought land in what is now Woodford Co., and I can't tell if it was in a part that was Tazewell county in those days. Their daughter Eliza Jane married Zephaniah Ellis Atterberry in 1845. The 1830 Tazewell census has a William P. Arterberry on page 164, with husband and wife in their 20s and a female child under age 5. On page 165 I see a John Moore and his wife in their 30s, 3 sons and 2 daughters. Does anyone know anything about these two families? The land office sold land W1/2NW of section 32, 26-N township, range 1-W 3rd PM, Woodford Co., IL on October 15, 1835 to these patentees: Prudence Moore, James Moore, John Moore, Eliza Moore, Martha Moore, Alfred Moore, and Charles Moore. I am amazed that the land was in the name of Prudence and her children, rather than just John Moore Sr. Maybe they got a divorce or he died before 1835. Prudence bought two more parcels totalling 80 acres in 1837. A John Moore (son or father?) bought 80 more acres in 1839. There was also a John W. Moore around buying up property in McLean County in 1837 and 1839. I don't know if there was a relationship. Has anybody worked on the John Moores or Atterberries of Tazewell or Woodford County? Any help appreciated. Margie Bridges in Calif.

I picked this information up on another list. It was news to me and I thought I'd share in case it is useful to anyone. >>Bounty Land Warrants were rewards for military service. But they could be sold by the veteran to anyone and could be sold many times subsequently. This explains how land was purchased with warrants by people who couldn't possibly have served. It also means that people who used warrants did not necessarily serve. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

Could someone who has the CD look up to see if John T. Dobon was a Methodist minister? I have a certificate of record of marriage for my great grandmother Susan Harmon who married Jonathan Mathis in Tazewell County on 2 Sept. 1847. It says the marriage was performed by John T. Dobon, Minister. I copied the same marriage from the Tazewell County Marriage Record Index, Volume I and the name of the minister is listed as John Dixon. Thanks for your help. Mary

Could you please check to see if you have any info. on Thomas French. I know he would visit Stark Co. and preach some Sundays. I believe he died about 1910. Thank you, Wilda

Hello Cheryl, This isn't an urgent message but in your travels through Methodist Ministers, please keep your eyes open for anything on a "Josephus Collins". I am very curious about him. In 1879 he was the minister who performed the ceremony for Ada Emily Collins, daughter of Aaron Collins, and Virginia Fultz in Pekin. Her brother Albert N. Collins, signed for her. Josephus Collins was living not far from Albert N.Collins, who was living on Sharlotta St. in Pekin, on the 1880 census. The census said he was born in Canada, his wife was born in Iowa, and he was minister in Pekin at that time. I am wondering if he is a relative of Aaron Collins but have found very little on both of them. I believe Aaron & his family moved to Piatt Co. about 1855 from Indiana. This bunch moved so often that I am having a time keeping up with them. If you should find a Josephus, please put up a posing. Thanks. Ardath in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <LoganCty@mindspring.com> To: <ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: RE: [ILTAZEWE] Methodist Ministers > If that doesn't do it get back to me. I confess I've forgotten which item I > sent. I've been dealing with my line of Methodist Ministers lately and may > have more [non Illinois] information. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Could you check for Albert GOSS, thanks, Mary -- Family History: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/u/c/Mary-C-Buchholz/index.html buchholz/clarkson/bancroft/carr/tanner/hammond/moriarty mailto:shepherd@iw.net Mary Buchholz HCR 62, Box 7 Belle Fourche, SD 57717 605-892-4268 phone

The Tazewell County Genealogical & Historical Society has 2 volumes of naturalization records. Please see our web site for more information http://www.rootsweb.com/~iltcghs/public.htm Linda Dickson Me Whoelse wrote: > Does Tazewell Co. Have naturalization records on people? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJans99999@aol.com> > To: <ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [ILTAZEWE] Methodist Ministers > > > > > > I don't think old Benjamin T. was a minister in > > > > > > > Dottie, > > > > The CD covers all areas where there were Methodist ministers and their > wives. > > Mine were from NY, MO, WA, OR, CA and a few other places. They stopped > the > > publications after 1938 and darn, my granddad died in 1943. I was told > I'd > > have to go to NJ and look thru all the files, of which there are several. > > But, I think I have enuf info on him. ;-) > > > > Sorry I couldn't find your Benjamin. > > > > Marcia > > > > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact the list administrator, Cheryl > Rothwell, LoganCty@mindspring.com. > > > > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Wow! That's a lot of resources Cheryl. It will take me a while to check them out and get back to you. My husband's ancestors were in Monroe County Ohio, not Miami County. One side of the family is well documented (DAR and FHC) but they were hooked up with the Sewells who were not LDS. It's the Sewells who are hard to trace so maybe I can find them through this Rucker group. Hmmmmm! This has been a day full of clues to three sides of my fields of research. My head is spinning so I'm going to quit for now. Thank you for all the help. Dottie

Does Tazewell Co. Have naturalization records on people? ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJans99999@aol.com> To: <ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [ILTAZEWE] Methodist Ministers > > > I don't think old Benjamin T. was a minister in > > > > Dottie, > > The CD covers all areas where there were Methodist ministers and their wives. > Mine were from NY, MO, WA, OR, CA and a few other places. They stopped the > publications after 1938 and darn, my granddad died in 1943. I was told I'd > have to go to NJ and look thru all the files, of which there are several. > But, I think I have enuf info on him. ;-) > > Sorry I couldn't find your Benjamin. > > Marcia > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact the list administrator, Cheryl Rothwell, LoganCty@mindspring.com. > >

May I ask when that CD begins coverage? I gathered it was later than my Clarks. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

This is pretty off topic for Tazewell but here goes. Were they in Miami County, OH? I have something on early ministers there. It's a DOS file and I have to dig out an old computer to make it work. Anyone whose ancestors were in Miami County, OH, would be interested in: http://www.tdn-net.com/genealogy/mvgi/mvgi-idx.htm http://www.tdn-net.com/genealogy/ftp.htm The minister file is at the second location. http://www.tdn-net.com/genealogy/miamico.htm And, of course, the Miami County OHGenWeb pages at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohmiami/ I find most of ancestors came from the east, paused in Ohio for 10-20 years, moved on to Illinois. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

In a message dated 4/2/2001 2:24:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, MJans99999@aol.com writes: > I don't think old Benjamin T. was a minister in > Ooops, please pardon me. This was to have been a personal message. My apologies. Marcia Janssen

> I don't think old Benjamin T. was a minister in > Dottie, The CD covers all areas where there were Methodist ministers and their wives. Mine were from NY, MO, WA, OR, CA and a few other places. They stopped the publications after 1938 and darn, my granddad died in 1943. I was told I'd have to go to NJ and look thru all the files, of which there are several. But, I think I have enuf info on him. ;-) Sorry I couldn't find your Benjamin. Marcia

My ancestors were earlier than that as far being ministers -- or even being Methodists. Their name was Clark. They were mostly in Logan County but since they were circuit ministers early on they got around to various counties in Central Illinois. Have you checked with Illinois Great Rivers Conference in Bloomington? They have an archivist who is very helpful. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

I don't think old Benjamin T. was a minister in Illinois. He was in Baltimore and then moved to Philadelphia where he worked the Bedford St. Mission. His book gave a clue that between those two locations he did missionary work on "the canals". He also mentioned that he had a brother who stayed in Baltimore and died there during this period. He and his son, Ruben Sewell enlisted in the Union Army at the same time and he served in the Civil War as a chaplain. After the war they both moved to Gentry County, MO where Benjamin died. Ruben moved on to Chadron, NE and finally wound up in Blackfoot, ID. Benjamin was a member of the church in Albany, Gentry Co, MO but was not listed as the minister. I have been looking for Benjamin T. Sewell's parents for years without much luck. I don't have any indication that they stopped in Illinois on their way through although they spent enough time in Ohio for one of the children to get married. Dottie

If that doesn't do it get back to me. I confess I've forgotten which item I sent. I've been dealing with my line of Methodist Ministers lately and may have more [non Illinois] information. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

Food for thought from Ancestry Daily News http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews ============================================================ "MISINTERPRETATIONS, or WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?" by Juliana Smith ============================================================ Kids seem especially prone to misinterpretations. Most of us have seen a child singing along to a song with his or her own interpretation of the lyrics. I remember both my nephew and my daughter singing along to the "Jungle Book" song "Bare Necessities." They both thought the song said " . . . forget about your worries and your stripes." They probably would have never thought of " . . . forget about your worries and your strife," because they probably weren't familiar with the word "strife." As adults, we often still make the same mistakes. I still struggle with song lyrics and ask my husband, "What'd he say?" Or I just make up my own. (Sometimes they're better that way.) I know I'm not alone. There's even a Web site set up for people to post their favorite lyrical misinterpretations (http://www.kissthisguy.com), and there are quite a few out there. We may find ourselves making these same types of mistakes in our family history research, too. How often have we come across something we didn't quite understand or know the meaning of and insert our own interpretation because it seemed to work. By inserting our own interpretations we may be leading our research astray. It's also possible that someone else's misinterpretations have been inserted into a record. Let's take a look at some common mistakes that can lead us down the wrong path. IN THE CREATION OF RECORDS This is one you have probably heard about many times before. Picture the census taker of arriving at the home of a newly immigrated family from Ireland. With a lovely Irish brogue, the head of the household proudly answers all of the questions, as the census taker, himself of Russian descent, struggles to understand just what he is saying. Early in the morning, this enumerator may be energetic and a little more particular about the way he records the entries, but as the day wears on and he trudges from house to house, meeting with a multitude of accents, he may become a little less attentive to detail. The same can be said of the "contributing authors" of the documents we use to fill in our family histories. In researching an ancestress with a maiden name of Dwyer, I found entries for her in a compilation of baptismal records listed as Dwyer, Ware, Toire, Wire, and Weir--and these were all listings from the same parish. I can just see the priest (or priests) as he tried to record the data each time she came in to have her child baptized, scratching his head and wondering, "What'd she say?" TWISTED GRAPEVINES Family stories are notorious for misinterpretations. These tales are passed from generation to generation "through the grapevine." Similar to the grapevine growing on the side of my house, the stories may start small. You can see where it started and follow its growth up the side of the house or trellis. But as time passes it grows and turns into this tangled and twisted mass of vines and leaves with seemingly no beginning and no end. It takes a lot of work (and basically a machete!) to try to find the base of the vine. Your best bet is to go to the root and follow it from there, weeding away all of the extraneous branches that lead off to nowhere. Sometimes it helps to do a little historical digging around the family tale in question. My Aunt Ethel, who has an amazing record for being correct with the information she provided my mother, told us that the father of my great-great-grandfather came over with Lafayette from France to fight in the Revolution. But a little history lesson and some easy math pretty much disprove this tale. After looking at the dates in a historic context, we can estimate that if he came over with Lafayette as a young man in the 1770s, it would have made him somewhere in the vicinity of 80 years old by the time my great-great-grandfather was born. I have a feeling Aunt Ethel is wrong on this one. Who knows, maybe down the line we'll find someone else with a connection to Lafayette, but for now this family tale will have to stay on the back burner. ABBREVIATIONS The records we use are often rife with abbreviations. As we interpret these records, the meanings of the abbreviations may seem obvious, but often the abbreviations can be deceptive. For example, you locate a record that gives Mauckport, Ia. as the place of origin for one of your ancestors. Eureka! Yippee! WhooHoo! You have just located Great-great-grandpa Jones' place of origin in the mid-19th century! You're doing the "genealogists' happy dance!" But wait, a search for information on Mauckport, Iowa turns up nothing. You turn to old maps. Nothing. What's up with that? What was a great lead is turning into another dead end. But wait, a little research on the abbreviation, Ia. tells you that Ia. can be either (1) Iowa or (2) old abbreviation for Indiana. ("Abbreviations and Acronyms for the Family Historian," by Kip Sperry). Aha! Quite a big difference if you are looking for great-grandpa Jones' records! POOR PENMANSHIP I saw a post a while back on a list, where a woman was complaining rather vehemently about the censuses being so hard to read. She thought it would be much better if someone typed them all out for her. While no one loves a census enumerator with sloppy handwriting, I don't want someone else trying to interpret the entries of my family and their neighbors for me. Chances are they will not be familiar with my family names. They will not be familiar with the neighborhood and be able to spot familiar names like I could. I would much rather see the actual entries for myself and be able to judge for myself what the enumerator was trying to get across. One of the best tricks for reading sloppy handwriting, is to look at other examples that are clearer and compare the letters and the way they were formed. Try duplicating the writing yourself. As you go through the motions that he did, you may find it easier to decipher the entry. TRICKS OUR MIND CAN PLAY If it's not bad enough with all the problems that faulty records cause for us, sometimes our own minds can play tricks on us. That date you are extracting from a burial record, is it the date of death or the burial date? Is that a birth date or baptism date? Are your forming assumptions about your ancestors as far as their ethnicity, religion, relationships, etc.? Sometimes it helps if we list, "just the facts, ma'am." My favorite way to do this is with a timeline. Long time readers have heard this from me many times, but it really works. You don't need any fancy formats or software--I typically just use word processing software or a spreadsheet. You can even do it using index cards. Just gather all your data on the individual or family in question and start listing events in chronological order. I always include the corroborating sources for each event so that if I happen to run into something that doesn't quite fit, I can analyze the sources I used and try to determine what is correct. An example of a timeline I created for one of my ancestors is online at: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/553.asp SO WHAT CAN WE DO? If we seem to be at a dead end, maybe it is time to go back and reevaluate all the evidence. We can make sure we are looking at original records, not someone else's interpretation of them. A better understanding of why the records were created and a little history of the times can shed some light on the problems we encounter. We can look for those flags that will tip us off that something is wrong with our (or someone else's) interpretation of the facts. So how do we know if we are falling victim to a misinterpretation? Using our "Jungle Book" example, " . . . forget about your worries and your stripes," Baloo the bear didn't have stripes. The boy, Mowgli didn't have stripes. So why were they singing about stripes? Bottom line--if you have to ask "What's up with that?" maybe it's time for a closer look. ____________________________________________________________________ Juliana Smith is the editor of the "Ancestry Daily News" and author of "The Ancestry Family Historian's Address Book." She has written for "Ancestry" Magazine and "Genealogical Computing." Juliana can be reached by e-mail at: mailto:editor@ancestry-inc.com, but regrets that she is unable to assist with personal research. An archive of her Monday columns, "The Family History Compass," are available on the Ancestry.com site at: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/compass/d_p_1_archive.asp

Hi Julie, A belated thank you for your letter is in order. Sorry. I just found it. I forgot to hit the little expand cross on my e-mail. I swear, more cells are strangling in my brain every hour. I'll keep trying on this ME minister lead. I've been pretty lucky so far. I managed to get a book Benjamin T. Sewell wrote around 1854 called Sorrow's Circuit in Philadelphia. He mentions having worked before that time with very desperate people on "the canals" and I'm trying to learn what or where he was talking about. It's one of the few clues to his past that I got from the book although I learned a lot about the work he was doing at the time. Wow! And we think there are some awful conditions in the inner cities now. Thanks again. Dottie Dorothy Nanninga Sewell dsewell@alaska.net Eagle River, Alaska Ostfriesland Ancestors http://www.alaska.net/~dsewell

Hi Cheryl, Sorry I've been so long thanking you for your info. No excuse. I just got confused and didn't hit the little expand button so I just found your answer. I'll try this address. Thanks again for all your work. Dottie Dorothy Nanninga Sewell dsewell@alaska.net Eagle River, Alaska Ostfriesland Ancestors http://www.alaska.net/~dsewell

I just wanted to make sure you all had this migration site to ask about your ancestors. It says German migration but it lists several other countries. http://www.germanmigration.com/queries/submitquery.asp