Mary Ann, Here is a family group sheet for Dorthea Koch Toennings. We may have already communicated. I am a descendent of her sister Mary Elizabeth, who married Henry Woost.. This was a very large and prolific family. I grew up and Pekin, and felt related to half the town. I'm putting it on the list, because I'll just bet you and I have other relatives lurking out there. :-) I have a family picture of the Woost family, and Marie Schoenfeld Koch is in the picture. Ellen Rowan Taylor searching in Tazewell County ROWAN,BEARDEN, WOOST, SCHEFFLER, SCHOENFELD, SHOBER, GOODHEART Name: Johann Heinrich KOCH Birth: 31 Jan 1817 Germany Death: 13 Feb 1899 Pekin, Illinois Burial: Lakeside Cemetary Pekin Il Occupation: Carpenter Religion: German Methodist Episcopal Marriage: 8 May 1840 Germany Spouse: Marie Elizabeth SCHOENFELD Birth: 3 Sep 1816 Bremen, Germany Death: SeeNotes Pekin, Illinois Burial: Lakeside Cemetary, Pekin, Illinois Occupation: Home-maker Religion: German Methodist Children 1 F: Anna Elizabeth Sophia KOCH Birth: 24 Sep 1844 Badersleben Kirschberg Saxony Germany Death: Pekin, Illinois Spouse: Ubbo Janssen ALBERTSON 2 M: Henry Louis KOCH Birth: 1845 Death: 1935 Spouse: Katherine ECKARD 3 M: Will KOCH Spouse: Nell 4 M: Fred KOCH Spouse: Louise HELMICH 5 F: Mary Elizabeth KOCH Birth: 16 Jul 1842 Machelburg, Prussia Death: 21 Apr 1917 Pekin, Illinois Spouse: Henry William Christian WOOST 6 F: Dorthea KOCH Spouse: Henry TOENNING 7 F: Elizabeth KOCH Spouse: Julius SCHOENFELD > Blust, Ehrlicher, Toeining, Koch, Hotz, Fleugel > From: "Maryann" <debtfree@ionet.net> > To: ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Blust, Ehrlicher, Toeining, Koch, Hotz, Fleugel > > Looking for any family members of these families or any information. > > Mary Ann > > > Arnhold Blust-Catharina Maria Hotze or Hatze > Louis Blust b.11Dec.,1860 Tazewell co. died 10 Jan, 1881 Tazewell Tremont, IL. > m LYDIA TOENINGS December 19, 1880 in Pekin, IL, Wm. Koneke m. w. Andrew Ehrlicher, Dorothea Toeining, daughter of HENRY TOENING and DOROTHEA KOCH. > c.LOUIS ARNOLD BLUST, b. February 13, 1881, Pekin, IL.; d. December 21, 1961, San Antonio, TX.. > > MELINDA MAGDALINE BLUST, b. 1858, 1858; m. HENRY KAPMEYER, September 04, 1876, Tazewell, Co. IL.. > > Catharina Blust Hotze (same persons as above) married ANDREW JOHANN EHRLICHER June 15, 1869 in Pekin, IL Tazewell, co. > c Billy Ehrlicher > Andy Ehrlicher > > Lydia Toenings > > Lydia Toenings (same person who married Louis Blust) > b: 1861 in PEKIN, IL Age at death: 41 est. 5 Fact 1: Spellings Toenings, Toennings, Toeining > +William Fluegel b: August 07, 1861 in Tremont, Il m: April 17, 1888 in Tazewell County > B. m533782 Christian Fluegel Mother: Wilhilma Hotzo Fact 1: lakeside cementary pekin, Il Fact Mausoleum > 2 Moni Fleugel b: in IL > 2 Leslie Fleugel b: in Il. > 2 Glen Fleugel b: in Il > 2 Elsie Fleugel b: in IL

You probably already have this, but there is a book, Tazewell County, Ill Cemeteries, Vol 8, which is Lakeside Cemetery. By Betty Weghorst Murphy. You can order it from the Ehrlicher Research Center PO Box 312 719 N 11th St Pekin IL 61555-0312 It is very well done, with a map, and index. Good luck! Ellen Rowan Taylor

In response to an email I found the following resource -- McLean County immigration records: http://www.mclean.gov/departments/CircuitClerk/imgrecs/imgrecs.htm I don't have any ancestors who arrived that late so I can't check to see how good it is but if you do it looks like a good resource. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

I have some Ehrlicher relatives in Pekin. Email me directly at histree60@aol.com Tammy

Subject: Blust, Ehrlicher, Toeining, Koch, Hotz, Fleugel Looking for any family members of these families or any information. Mary Ann Arnhold Blust-Catharina Maria Hotze or Hatze Louis Blust b.11Dec.,1860 Tazewell co. died 10 Jan, 1881 Tazewell Tremont, IL. m LYDIA TOENINGS December 19, 1880 in Pekin, IL, Wm. Koneke m. w. Andrew Ehrlicher, Dorothea Toeining, daughter of HENRY TOENING and DOROTHEA KOCH. c.LOUIS ARNOLD BLUST, b. February 13, 1881, Pekin, IL.; d. December 21, 1961, San Antonio, TX.. MELINDA MAGDALINE BLUST, b. 1858, 1858; m. HENRY KAPMEYER, September 04, 1876, Tazewell, Co. IL.. Catharina Blust Hotze (same persons as above) married ANDREW JOHANN EHRLICHER June 15, 1869 in Pekin, IL Tazewell, co. c Billy Ehrlicher Andy Ehrlicher Lydia Toenings Lydia Toenings (same person who married Louis Blust) b: 1861 in PEKIN, IL Age at death: 41 est. 5 Fact 1: Spellings Toenings, Toennings, Toeining +William Fluegel b: August 07, 1861 in Tremont, Il m: April 17, 1888 in Tazewell County B. m533782 Christian Fluegel Mother: Wilhilma Hotzo Fact 1: lakeside cementary pekin, Il Fact Mausoleum 2 Moni Fleugel b: in IL 2 Leslie Fleugel b: in Il. 2 Glen Fleugel b: in Il 2 Elsie Fleugel b: in IL

Dear List, I am searching for clues regarding my great great grandfather, William Phillips. He resided in the city of Pekin at the time of the 1860 census when he was 50 years old (House #216: William Phillips, along with Anna, aged 27 & born in NY--possibly his second or third wife; and his daughters Ester, aged 17, and Amanda, aged 15, both born in Ohio (probably Newark, Licking County). I do not have a death date for William and am trying to find out if he may have died or may be buried in Pekin. What are some of the older and larger Pekin cemeteries that may have been in use during the period from roughly 1870-1890? Are there any Pekin cemetery records from this time period that may be searched in either online or in paper format? I would appreciate any help in determining if William died while a resident of Pekin. He was father of my great grandmother, Louise Phillips, who married Dr. Frank (Francis) Keefer in Tazewell Co. in 1855. Any help appreciated! Susan Carlson

Rootsweb is merging the GenConnect boards with some boards at Ancestry.com. Please note that these boards are NOT a part of USGenWeb or ILGenWeb although many pages link to them. The merged boards will have some great new features. They will also give wider circulation to queries, always helpful. However, nothing is perfect and there are some drawbacks you need to consider in advance. Wider circulation means more people will read it, more search engines will pick it up, etc. NEVER NEVER post your snail mail address, phone number or other personal details. More and more people are surfing genealogy sites and gathering information for identity theft and other criminal activities. While Rootsweb/Ancestry.com promises the boards cannot be crawled [yet!] to gather email addresses, if you post the personal information it is certainly available to everyone. If your bank, credit card company, etc. uses 'mother's maiden name' as the security word you need to get them to change it. If they won't you could have a problem since your mother's maiden name is pretty easy to determine these days. You might consider giving them your maternal grandmother's maiden instead or something of that nature. You need to plan that in advance so you remember of course. The new setup APPEARS to eliminate public responses so a poster may have to answer the same questions over and over in email. If this is so some might want to save the email and just keep forwarding the entire correspondence. Of course, that method will share email addresses with all, something that may or may not be desirable. Now might be a good time to get a Yahoo or Hotmail or Bigfoot or other free email address just for genealogy. Yahoo and Bigfoot addresses can be forwarded to your real email account. Hotmail cannot. I don't know about others. Here's what Rootsweb, owned by Ancestry.com, says about the new boards [not yet available but soon]: --- The new message boards database will be by far the largest collection of such messages on the Internet. In fact, the FamilyHistory and RootsWeb messages are extremely complimentary. The majority of the messages on FamilyHistory are surname-based, while RootsWeb's strength is in the locality and topic areas. Not only will the new combination enjoy a larger set of data, but users will have access to a much larger audience. --- The new message boards can now handle attachments to e-mail messages in the form of uploaded pictures (scanned documents, family photos, etc.) and GEDCOM files. --- Users will be able to view the e-mail address of message authors and be able to respond to them easily and privately. However, the message boards cannot be "crawled" by unscrupulous third parties to gather e-mail addresses for spam mailings. --- Search functionality will be improved compared to either the RootsWeb or FamilyHistory systems. Search hits will be ranked by relevance and wildcard searches are available. --- The hardware infrastructure supporting the new message boards is faster, can handle larger traffic loads, and is more stable. The new system is also less expensive over time and easier to maintain. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

>From the current issue of Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter: - 20,000 Community Newspapers To Become Available Online The following is an excerpt from a press release by the National Newspaper Association: More than 20,000 community newspapers, some long out of print, have recorded American life since the 17th century, and two unique organizations have set the common goal of providing Internet access to this documentation of American heritage. The National Newspaper Association (NNA) and Cold North Wind Corporation signed a letter of intent today to create America's Chronicles(SM), an online search engine that accesses the digital archives of America's community newspapers, beginning with the archives of the 3600 NNA member newspapers. The project could eventually result in 500,000,000 pages of original, historical content dating back to the 1600s and will be available online at http://www.americaschronicles.com. The site will be launched at the NNA's 116th Annual Convention and Trade Show in Milwaukee, September 12-15, with access to the first of many digital archives. By working with community papers and the NNA, a not-for-profit trade association representing the grassroots of America's newspaper owners, publishers and editors, Cold North Wind will make digital access to this rich source of historical and genealogical content available for the first time. EMC Corporation, the world leader in information storage, will provide data storage for the exceptionally large database required to create this digital archive. Cold North Wind partner microCreditCard, the Internet's leading credit card- based micro-payment facilitator and alternative billing provider, was chosen as the exclusive online payment service for its convenient digital content payment solutions. Although the terms of the agreement were not fully disclosed, the subscription revenue from the project will go to the NNA and participating newspapers. NNA and Cold North Wind are also exploring ways to make the service available as a resource at public institutions. The two groups are calling on corporations across the country to get involved in this groundbreaking program. "We are excited to breath life into hundreds of years of history that are currently buried in the archives of America's newspapers and libraries," said Diane Everson, publisher of The Edgerton Wisconsin Reporter, and president of NNA. "Our agreement with Cold North Wind will give readers everywhere access to historical events from the perspective of America's hometown newspapers. America's Chronicles(SM) will allow us to see how community, national, and international events changed the fabric of our ancestors' daily lives. Newspapers are truly the first draft of history." The full press release is available at: http://www.americaschronicles.com/home.asp

Since, you were talking about Kief's, I noticed there was a picture for adoption on the web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adoptaphoto/ This picture was from Logan Co. and was listed with the surname Kief. I thought it might be of some interest. Gayle Rademacker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <LoganCty@mindspring.com> To: <ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: RE: [ILTAZEWE] Help on figuring out birth dates > I really can't explain Ancestry.com. Chester is a township. Chestervale was > a train station and elevator in Chester Township -- there was NEVER a town > there. I'd guess, and this is only a guess from looking at the neighbors, > that your ancestors lived on the east side of Chester Township, closer to > Aetna. I suggest you subscribe to the Logan list and take this up there. The > 1878 Logan history has two Kiefs -- John and Charles -- living in Broadwell > Township with a PO of Lincoln. Both were from Germany. > > In the 1886 history there is a Philip Kief who was born in Minnesota of > German born parents. There is a Michael Kief who married a Flick. Did we > have this conversation? I've had it with someone. You really need to discuss > Logan County on the Logan list. There may be Kief researcher there. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the TAZEWELL List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILTAZEWE-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILTAZEWE-D-request@Rootsweb.com >

I use this for figuring out birth dates: http://enws347.eas.asu.edu:8000/~buckner/bdform.html You can save the java script to your computer so you don't have to keep going to the site. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

I really can't explain Ancestry.com. Chester is a township. Chestervale was a train station and elevator in Chester Township -- there was NEVER a town there. I'd guess, and this is only a guess from looking at the neighbors, that your ancestors lived on the east side of Chester Township, closer to Aetna. I suggest you subscribe to the Logan list and take this up there. The 1878 Logan history has two Kiefs -- John and Charles -- living in Broadwell Township with a PO of Lincoln. Both were from Germany. In the 1886 history there is a Philip Kief who was born in Minnesota of German born parents. There is a Michael Kief who married a Flick. Did we have this conversation? I've had it with someone. You really need to discuss Logan County on the Logan list. There may be Kief researcher there. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

It is just me again! I got to thinking after I got the information on Robert H. Barnard's burial today that although he out lived most of his children when he died 12/06/1920 at age 90 there must have been some kind of obituary on him. 90 is a very old age in those days especially when you have lived most of your life in the same area. Could someone please check the local Washington papers for some type of article on him around 12/06/1920? He is buried in Glendale cemetery. Robert was a farmer. Hazel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. 1. Write the year, month, day as: ----------->     18890506 2. Subtract the age at death:   ---------------->         710709 3. This gives the figure: ------------------------>     18179797 4. Now subtract 8870: -------------------------->               8870 5. The result is: ----------------------------------->     18170927 Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817      I hope this helps Jean Sellers ------------------------------------------------------------------------   About Us | FAQ | Help | Support/Feedback | P

Cheryl, Can you or anyone help me figure out a date of birth based on a date of death? My great great grandmother died May 24, 1938. She was 89 years, 4 months and 27 days old when she died. Apparently, there is some trick to figuring this out. Do you know? Also, thank you for the lookup on the census for the KIEF family. I looked on the Ancestry.com census for Logan county that they have downloaded and all they show is a Chestervale in Logan. Is this an error? Thanks for the help! Tammy Russell

Is Glendale cemetery still open? Would you happen to know it's address so I can write to them? Hazel On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:14:08 EDT Lyd32@aol.com writes: > Hazel - I checked 1860 census and found Robert Barnard and family > living in > Washington Twp. On checking the Washington Twp cemetery book > published by > the Tazewell Co. Genealogical Society, I find at > Glendale Cemetery: > > BARNARD, Robert H. , father - 1830 - 1920 > Rachael, mother - 1834 - 1913 > Elvina, daughter - 1869 - 1928 > Fred, son 1867 - 1900 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Lyde > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Tazewell County ILGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.usgennet.org/~iltazewe/index.html > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

First of all I would like to thank all of the list subscribers who have helped me in my research. Without your help I certainly would not have come so far in my Barnard family genealogy. Would someone be willing to lookup the obituary of Robert H. Barnard who died 12/06/1920 in Tazewell, Washington TWP? I am hoping that his parents names maybe listed. But any information that the obituary provides will surely help me in learning more about my great grandparents. Thank you all. Hazel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Your research really helped me in my tracking this family. In the 1870 and 1880 census it had them listed in Morton. I can't figure out if they moved the township boundaries or if the family moved. Since Robert was a farmer and he was eventually buried in Washington it seems unlikely that they would have moved. Maybe it has something to do with how they conducted the census. So I guess that I had better start researching Washington TWP for them. I always thought that they lived in Deer Creek because my grandmother Florence Barnard was born there in 1888. She was the daughter of Robert Henry their fourth child. He married Hannah Evelyn McCloud. The McCloud's lived in Deer Creek and it appears that Robert Henry and Hannah went to live with her parents after they were married. It gets so confusing trying to fit all the pieces together correctly. Do you have any suggestions as to how I can find the ship that Robert (and possibly his parents) traveled on from England to the USA? I have not been able to find his naturalization papers although the census listed him as being naturalized. I am sort of new at this kind of research so I have to look to more expierenced people to guide me in the right directions. It looks like many people read your email to me and asked for a lookup. I apologize if this caused you any trouble. But please know that your information is a tremendous help to me. Thank you again. Hazel P.S. If you hear anything about the Barnard family would you please let me know. On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:14:08 EDT Lyd32@aol.com writes: > Hazel - I checked 1860 census and found Robert Barnard and family > living in > Washington Twp. On checking the Washington Twp cemetery book > published by > the Tazewell Co. Genealogical Society, I find at > Glendale Cemetery: > > BARNARD, Robert H. , father - 1830 - 1920 > Rachael, mother - 1834 - 1913 > Elvina, daughter - 1869 - 1928 > Fred, son 1867 - 1900 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Lyde > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Tazewell County ILGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.usgennet.org/~iltazewe/index.html > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Louise - I'm sorry I didn't find Mary C. Baylor/Bayler listed in the Cemetery Book. Lyde

Thank you for checking. I have my order for the cemetery book in the mail. Have a great day. Louise in Kansas

Louise - These families are buried at Glendale Cemetery, Washington Twp; but there is almost half page of both Minch and Bayler families. If you want a particular lookup, I will be happy to check; but you will probably want to purchase this book since there are so many. Contact Tazewell County Genealogical Society. Here is the site address with their mailing address also: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iltcghs Lyde