Generally the end of a Civil War pension did mean the death of the veteran. Since he lived so long after the Civil War, it isn't likely you'd find any Widow's Pension papers, but it might be worth trying -- if he was married. I don't Bellevue he needed to be married to that wife at the time of the Civil War for her to be eligible for pension benefits. > -----Original Message----- > From: larbear@kdsi.net [mailto:larbear@kdsi.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:41 AM > To: ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILTAZEWE] Civil War Pension Question > > > List Members: > > I've just received Pension Papers for my Anderson Jennings who served in > the Civil War. A paper from the Office of the Disbursing Clerk dated > Febr 5, 1914 shows he was last paid $12. to 4 Nov, 1910 and then was > dropped from the roll because of "Section 4719, B.S." > > I don't know what this means....perhaps his death? Any ideas from you > or perhaps where I might write to find out? > > Thanks for any help you can give me. > > Dixie (Jennings) Greenwood >

The 1930 Census is due to be released April 1. You might want to see if your local G&H Society, library, etc. is planning to purchase the microfilm so you can use it. The 1930 census asked the following questions: Place of Abode 1. Street, avenue, road, etc. 2. House number (in cities or towns) 3. Number of dwelling house in order of visitation [this number supplied by census taker]. 4. Number of family in order of visitation [this number supplied by census taker]. Name 5. Name of each person whose place of abode on April 1, 1930, was in this family. Relation 6. Relationship of this person to the head of the family. Home Data 7. Home owned or rented. 8. Value of home, if owned, or monthly rental, if rented. 9. Radio set. 10. Does this family live on a farm? Personal Description 11. Sex. 12. Color or race [White (W), Negro (Neg), Mexican (Mex), Indian (In), Chinese (Ch), Japanese (Jp), Filipino (Fil), Hindu (Hin), Korean (Kor), other races spelled out in full.] 13. Age at last birthday. 14. Marital condition. [Single (S), married (M), widowed (Wd), divorced (D).] 15. Age at first marriage. Education 16. Attended school or college any time since Sept. 1, 1929. 17. Whether able to read and write. Place of birth 18. Place of birth--PERSON. 19. Place of birth--FATHER. 20. Place of birth--MOTHER. Mother Tongue (or Native Language) of Foreign Born 21. Language spoken in home before coming to the United States. Here follows 3 columns of "CODE (For office use only. Do not write in these columns)" relating to "State or M.T. [mother tongue]," "Country," and "Nativity." These codes were entered to assist in statistical tabulation and do not provide any information beyond that found in columns 18-21. Citizenship, etc. 22. Year of immigration to the United States. 23. Naturalization. 24. Whether able to speak English. Occupation & Industry 25. Trade, profession, or particular kind of work done, as spinner, salesman, riveter, teacher, etc. 26. Industry or business, as cotton mill, dry-goods store, shipyard, public school, etc. 27. Class of worker. Employment 28. Whether actually at work yesterday (or the last regular working day)--Yes or No 29. If not, line number on Unemployment Schedule. [Note: Unemployment schedules no longer exist.] Veterans 30. Whether a veteran of U.S. military or naval force--Yes or No. 31. What war or expedition? [World War (WW), Spanish-American War (Sp), Civil War (Civ), Philippine Insurrection (Phil), Boxer Rebellion (Box), Mexican Expedition (Mex)]. Farm Schedule 32. Number of farm schedule.

List Members: I've just received Pension Papers for my Anderson Jennings who served in the Civil War. A paper from the Office of the Disbursing Clerk dated Febr 5, 1914 shows he was last paid $12. to 4 Nov, 1910 and then was dropped from the roll because of "Section 4719, B.S." I don't know what this means....perhaps his death? Any ideas from you or perhaps where I might write to find out? Thanks for any help you can give me. Dixie (Jennings) Greenwood

Here's Dick Eastman's explanation of the problem with the Bureau of Land Management site. Remember, Illinois Land Records, which sometimes differ from BLM records, are available on the State Archives site at: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/data_lan.html - Bureau of Land Management Computers Knocked Offline By Judge Because of a lawsuit, Cobell v. Norton, genealogists are being denied access to the Interior Department's Bureau of Land Management Web site. This site contains (or did contain) hundreds of thousands of records related to homestead claims and land sales. The site has been very popular amongst genealogists looking for records of ancestors in the western states. The site is offline today with no planned date for its return. It seems that U.S. District Judge Royce has threatened yet again to hold Secretary of Interior Gale Norton in contempt as he ordered her department to "immediately" disconnect from the Internet every single computer, server, and system that has access to individual Indian trust data. The problems and lawsuit arose from the government's extremely long delays in paying for oil royalties and grazing leases. The records were housed in a computer infrastructure that was so weak that a court-appointed investigator and his team of security experts were able to break in and repeatedly access, modify and even create data -- all without raising a response from the government. Judge Royce ordered Secretary Norton to "immediately" disconnect from the Internet every single computer, server, and system that has access to individual Indian trust data. The Secretary of Interior did just that. If you try to access the Bureau of Land Management sites, you simply get an error message saying, "Not available."

I know I am not suppose to advertise anything,and I'M NOT. Someone might want to contact the person on the site to see if they can copy this full name index for their webpage, so others can view it in the future.I hate to see good info go to waste, and once the auctions are over you can't view them anymore, from what I remember. This is not my book and advertising the book is not my purpose, if anyone is interested in it fine, please don't let this valuable name index go to waste. I have written several times to people that post indexes for permission to post on webpages, they always allowed it, then I sent them to my county administrator and she posted them on the county page. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1400157142 Hope it helps someone Jas. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Rootsweb says the mailing lists threaded archives are finally working again. They've been up and down all year. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ I don't know how much use that is since it still requires you to know the month of posting. The other option is the mailing list archives where you can search by year BUT you'll only get a listing of messages posted. Then you click on that and see one message, not the whole conversation. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl I figure by 2005 they'll have it so you can do something useful like search for a subject and get the whole thread. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb

Happy Holidays List, Hope some one can help!!! Am looking for information for : Theodore Neal b:abt 1900 Dunnville Ky.,Casey county, Died 1956 Pekin, Il. He was the son of Eli and Lue Neal of Terra Haute Ind. Thank you, Diane in Ohio

There is a court order shutting down the databases. I looked it up to verify before I posted but I didn't read the fine print. If one of my Rootsweb sites had to be taken down my email address would work because it is not at Rootsweb. I do not know if the email addresses associated with the domain name I own would work, whether they would pull the pages or the entire account from the server. My guess would be when the judge said pull it now they shut down the entire BLM account on the server, now have to do their email differently. >>As for the accuracy of the BLM data vis-a-vis that from the State of Illinois, I believe the two are distinct databases, not that one is a better copy of the other. At least in my own limited research, I've found different transactions in one database that were not present in the other. The database that is available from the Sec of State has been available online for many years. It was on a U of I server before -- it's old. I was told the state's database was from the same records as the BLM. Certainly if you ask for this section of land from the state and from the BLM you are talking about the exact same thing, original land purchases from the government. However, I have also noticed they don't always match. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb

Cheryl, thanks for the heads up on this issue. I called the BLM today (it is currently impossible to send them an e-mail) and spoke to a very nice guy named Ken Greenberg. He was very apologetic about the situation and said it may be weeks before the BLM's systems are up as apparently all (or most) of Interior's computer systems are interconnected (including their internal timetracking and email systems!). This is either appallingly bad computer system design or a case of Interior's programmers either trying to make a point or deciding to take some time off for the holidays. Don't expect the database to back online until well into January. As for the accuracy of the BLM data vis-a-vis that from the State of Illinois, I believe the two are distinct databases, not that one is a better copy of the other. At least in my own limited research, I've found different transactions in one database that were not present in the other. -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Rothwell [mailto:LoganCty@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:41 AM To: ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILTAZEWE] BLM Site Down Folks, this IS true. The Bureau of Land Management site is down. An Illinois alternate, not as accurate, is the Sec of State's public land records. The court did order limited access for DOI sites but not for those with Indian information. > The U.S. Department of the Interior, has been directed by court order to > disconnect all databases that allow access to "individual Indian trust > data". Since the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is under the directive > of the DOI, it has been disconnected, along with some other vital > databases. > > You can read the DOI memos concerning the court orders at: > > http://www.doi.gov/ > > Below are more links if you are interested in the latest news about the > court order disconnecting the DOI's databases, including our favorite > Land Patent Search at the Bureau of Land Management. > > Briefly, the databases that seem to be affected are: > > Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) > Bureau of Land Management (BLM) > Bureau of Reclamations (BOR) > Fish and Wildlife Services (FWS) > Minerals Management Services (MMS) > National Parks Service (NPS) another favorite! > Office of Surface Mining (OSM) > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/12/11/interior.reut/index.html > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,48980,00.html > > Official US Executive Websites and their acronyms: > http://www.loc.gov/global/executive/fed.html Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb

Folks, this IS true. The Bureau of Land Management site is down. An Illinois alternate, not as accurate, is the Sec of State's public land records. The court did order limited access for DOI sites but not for those with Indian information. > The U.S. Department of the Interior, has been directed by court order to > disconnect all databases that allow access to "individual Indian trust > data". Since the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is under the directive > of the DOI, it has been disconnected, along with some other vital > databases. > > You can read the DOI memos concerning the court orders at: > > http://www.doi.gov/ > > Below are more links if you are interested in the latest news about the > court order disconnecting the DOI's databases, including our favorite > Land Patent Search at the Bureau of Land Management. > > Briefly, the databases that seem to be affected are: > > Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) > Bureau of Land Management (BLM) > Bureau of Reclamations (BOR) > Fish and Wildlife Services (FWS) > Minerals Management Services (MMS) > National Parks Service (NPS) another favorite! > Office of Surface Mining (OSM) > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/12/11/interior.reut/index.html > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,48980,00.html > > Official US Executive Websites and their acronyms: > http://www.loc.gov/global/executive/fed.html Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb

Just a reminder. DO NOT post your address, phone number, or information about living people on the genealogy lists [or, really, any list]. Send a private email for those details. While only subscribers may post to the list the archives of these lists can be read by anyone. Do not give the world's creeps any help. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb

There is yet another virus, worse than last week's. I repeat, a virus can NOT go through the lists for a variety of reasons. You might get it from someone you know on the list but NOT from the list. We do not get into a discussion on viruses, how to cure them, the latest rumor, etc. on the lists. However, there is information on the following sites which may help if you are not aware of things that need to done in order to prevent a virus from infecting your PC and then all of the rest of our PC's. The "RULE" IS - if you don't have a virus checker on your PC to check email you should get one immediately. Check out these sites for a free Anti-Virus software if you do not have a commercial program installed on your personal PC. A free program is available from any of the following sites: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.html http://www.antivirus.com/pc-cillin/download/ http://download.mcafee.com/eval/evaluate2.asp (Click on Virus Scan) http://security2.norton.com/ssc/home.asp?j=1&langid=us&venid=sym&plfid=22&pk j=YGTBBXUQIZQVMUYTACD (Click on Norton Anti Virus Information - TRY) You may have to remember to update it these programs yourself but these seem to work quite well and do not cause other problems with email. Commercial programs often can be set to update themselves at specified intervals such as daily or weekly. However you get your program updated you MUST do it regularly, at least once a week and maybe more often in these times. At the following web site you can have your computer checked for viruses while you wait: http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_pcc.asp http://security2.norton.com/ssc/home.asp?j=1&langid=us&venid=sym&plfid=22&pk j=YGTBBXUQIZQVMUYTACD (Click on Scan for Virus) There are many other web sites and sources of information out there. Be wise. Protect yourself. With thanks to Roger Jewett for this collection of information. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01

If you have an immigrant ancestor living and in the 1920 census it may be a treasure trove for you. The 1920 census asks for the year of naturalization for all naturalized citizens, the birthplace of each parent [as do all censuses beginning in 1880] and, of course, the person's birthplace. It asks the person's native language, the language of the parents and whether the person now speaks English. It also asks the immigration year and the number of years in the US. It asks if you own or rent and if you own is the mortgage paid. And this is in addition to the regular census questions. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 11/24/01

----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: ILLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Howard Webb Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Hawes Implement Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Harv & Barb Cramer Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: harms2@att.net Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Hans-Jürgen Adams Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Gerald Green Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Gerald Green Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Emmaus Immanuel Lutheran Churches Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Dick & Jean Husted Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Chuck Richardson Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Bill Ealey Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Bill and Eleanor Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: Arthur Weerts Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Fw: Virus ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER To: AnaSheyen@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Virus I apologize to all who opened my email that was sent to you this morning. It was a virus worm, which attaches to everyone in my address book and sends a message with an attachment. Please do not open this message if you have not done so already. Just delete it. Gayle Rademacker

Does anyone have access to this soundex and not mind doing a lookup for me? I am interested in the households of Gustav and Wilhem FASSE (F200). I have access to the census, but without the soundex, I would have to read page by page. I am hoping someone will be willing to point me to the right ED# and Sheet#. Thanks for your help. Barry Fox Greenville, SC

The RootsWeb servers were down for about twelve hours (from about 5:30 AM EST) on Monday. The word from the RootsWeb staff is that all messages were lost during this time and need to be sent again.

This is a bit off the beaten path but when you need it you need it. If you have references to Easter, say "Easter 1840," and you wonder what the date is here's a way to find out. http://www.smart.net/~mmontes/ec-cal.html One for US Holidays is at: http://www.smart.net/~mmontes/ushols.html There are more links on the pages. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01

Wrong address sorry

>Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:08:13 EST >From: GLOTFELTYR@aol.com >Subject: Re: reply >To: <gossick@trib.com> >X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > >I remember one useful class in College - Advertising 301. The guys >statement regarding the news was something to the effect of: > >The purpose of the news (magazines, newspapers, and broadcast) programs, >is 1) to make money from subscriptions and advertising, and 2) to spread >the philosophy of the owner/publisher/editor whether liberal or >conservative. In case of a conflict between the two purposes, Purpose 1 >usually prevails. > >I always thought that was most interesting, and truer, as I get older. > >Someday, maybe they'll make one of us King for a year, and we can fix this >stuff!!! Hook a lie detector up while they are broadcast... and wait for >the red lights to blink (or more likely, it will look like a constant red >beacon....) Ha ha. > > > > > > >Bob; >Boy!! I don't want a depression!! But I sure would like to see a few in >the media with some smarts. >But you are likely right. >DON

Sharon and Denise, My husband says a Trowbridge lived near Greeen Valley on Towerline Rd. He said they are both dead now. Do you need the exact location? Gayle Rademacker ----- Original Message ----- From: "FRED/GAYLE RADEMACKER" <radflgl@dpc.net> To: <ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [ILTAZEWE] Schoons and Trowbridge > Denise, > I don't know, but when my husband gets home I will ask him. He know everyone > lives. Denise, we went to Natrona's weiner roast a couple of weeks ago. We > had a nice time. The Hazard's > were from San Jose. William Hazard died this year. He was about 71 years > old. Does this ring a bell? > > Gayle Rademacker > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark and Denise" <nesser@bwsys.net> > To: <ILTAZEWE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:12 AM > Subject: [ILTAZEWE] Schoons and Trowbridge > > > > Sharon, I would write the library in Washington at the address I gave > > you since they aren't real busy yet. They are planning a new library, > > but there are times when there's barely anyone in there. They are a nice > > bunch of ladies. There is a historical society in Washington too that I > > forgot to mention. And if you want to find out about Manito I would > > suggest writing to the local paper with a self addressed envelope > > included. They would know about genealogical societies ect. I just know > > the Trowbridges owned a lot of acreage down there around Pekin and > > Manito, and in Malone twp. too west of Green Valley. Maybe Gayle R. > > might know more? Gayle? Smiles, Denise > > > > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Tazewell County ILGenWeb Home Page! > > http://www.usgennet.org/~iltazewe/index.html > > > > > ==== ILTAZEWE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Tazewell County ILGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.usgennet.org/~iltazewe/index.html >