I apologize, I inadvertently sent this formated the first time. I found some old photos and hope I can help someone find some that belong to their family. I have loaded the photos onto my website at http://www.bobbiev.net/photos.html Here is a short description of the photos: Name of person(s) in photo: Aunt Vina & Lennie Mai Marl Tabor - Smith & Smith St. Louis Art Co. Joe Moore Ethel & Frank Brigman - Fischer - Quincy, IL. D M Rollins -- 17 Archie Eichman & wife Fedora Ethel Roberts Photo Studio or Location: Carlyle, IL McDonald - Augusta, Illinois. Palmer - Griggsville, Ills. John Strathmann - Germantown, Ill. Williams & Ritter - Clayton, Ills. E. Clark Hall - Brookville, PA Dinnington - Meadville, PA Fowler - Meadville, PA Pentz - York, PA - Rupps Building Centre Square Setzer and Roth - St. Louis Smith & Smith - St. Louis Art Co When - 1651 Franklin Ave. St. Louis, Missouri If you are interested in any of them, please contact me off list. Thanks, Bobbie

Hiya Groups, Looking for a marriage between Charles L. Whitney, b. 1882 Illinois possibly to a Eleanora /?/. Charles was born in East St. Louis and his parents are buried at Mt. Hope. There is also a Eleanora that died in 1915 that I have not been able to identify as being part of the family. Possible explanation is that she is Charles' wife that died shortly after they married. Thanks, Laurie

Don Tolzmann, author/editor/translator of Missouri's German Heritage and the forthcoming book Illinois' German Heritage, helped with production of the forthcoming German Heritage Programs on PBS "The German-Americans," to be re-broadcast nationally this month. Also, the second program in the series will also be shown on "Visions of Germany: Bavaria." --consult the list of show times below! > PBS Station Airdates > VISIONS OF GERMANY: Bavaria > and THE GERMAN AMERICANS > In Chronological Order, Reported as of 11/29/04 > > Check local listings for additional station information > > Sat., 12/4, 9 am WUSF, Tampa, FL Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/4, 1 pm WMVT, Milwaukee, WI Visions of Germany > Also Wed, 12/8, 8pm > Sat., 12/4, 2:30 pm WMVS, Milwaukee, WI German Americans > Sat., 12/4, 1:30 pm KUHT, Houston, TX Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/4, 3:30 pm UNC-TV N. Carolina net. Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/4, 2:30 pm KUFM, Missoula, MT Visions of Germany > Sun., 12/5, 2 pm KAET, Phoenix, AZ German Americans > Sun., 12/5, 3:30 pm KAET, Phoenix, AZ Visions of Germany > Sun., 12/5, 2:30 pm KOPB, Portland, OR Visions of Germany > Sun., 12/5, 3:30 pm KLRN, San Antonio, TX German Americans > Sun., 12/5, 4 pm WPTV Riverton, WY Visions of Germany > Sun., 12/5, 5 pm KLRN, San Antonio, TX Visions of Germany > Sun., 12/5, 8 pm WQED, Pittsburgh, PA Visions of Germany > Mon., 12/6, 7:30 pm WLIW, New York, NY Visions of Germany > Mon., 12/6, 8 pm WFUM, Flint, MI Visions of Germany > Mon., 12/6, 7 pm KBTC, Seattle, WA Visions of Germany > Tue., 12/7, 7:30 pm WTTW, Chicago, IL Visions of Germany > Tue., 12/7, 8 pm WNJN, New Jersey Network Visions of > Germany > Wed., 12/8/Thu, 12/9 TBD WYBE, Philadelphia, PA German > Americans, (maybe Visions of Germany too) > Thu., 12/9, 2 pm WMVS, Milwaukee, WI Visions of Germany > Also Sat, 12/11, 3:30 pm > Thu., 12/9, 8 pm WCET, Cincinnati, OH Visions of Germany > Thu., 12/9, 9:30 pm WCET, Cincinnati, OH German Americans > Thu., 12/9, 8 pm WETA, Washington, DC Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/11, 11:30 pm WTVI, Charlotte, NC German Americans > Followed by Visions of Germany at 1 pm > Sat., 12/11, 2:30 pm KERA, Dallas, TX Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/11, 4 pm WGBH, Boston, MA Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/11, 4 pm WSKG, Binghamton, NY Visions of Germany > Sat., 12/11, 5 pm WLRN, Miami, FL Visions of Germany > Also Sun, 12/12, 1:30 am > Sun., 12/12, noon KTCA, Minneapolis, MN Visions of Germany > Sun., 12/12, 6 pm KOCE, Orange County, CA Visions of Germany > Also Tue, 12/14, 10:30 pm > Sun., 12/12, 8 pm WMVT, Milwaukee, WI German Americans > Tue., 12/28, 7 pm KETC, St. Louis, MO Visions of Germany > Also Fri, 12/31, 10:30 pm

Looking for further info on N.S. BASTION/BASTIAN, who came to Lebanon, St. Clair Co. twice during the 1830s. I don't know when he arrived, from IN, but by 1830 he was a teacher there in the common schools. That year he was converted to Methodism at a camp meeting. Would be interested in knowing more about that camp meeting (typically there would only be one a year in any given area, lasting days; it would probably be at the end of the harvest so farmers could come). In 1832 he was admitted on trial to the Methodist ministry. I am assuming that this was part time, as he was an "exhorter," the one who whipped up the crowds before the regular preacher came on. This would mean he would need to keep his teaching job. So he stayed in Lebanon. Is it possible there might be newspaper records of this camp meeting? Or any records of the schools that might remain, either in newspapers or elsewhere? If anybody can do any checking, I would greatly appreciate any information. I know there are online newspaper services, but my eyes are too bad to use microfilm, there is only one microfilm reader in the county, it is forty miles away, and I don't drive. I don't know what the libraries here expect genealogists to do! It takes good souls to do favors, knowing that even if I can't do one for you personally, I can do one for somebody else. Here's one I might be able to do. If you have an ancestor who was a Christian (Disciples of Christ) minister or early member of one of their churches in IL, I have a book out on ILL and will for another couple of weeks until I record all the info relevant to me, and will gladly look something up if you know the relevant county. It's 667 pages without an index, organized by counties. Thanks, Doris Waggoner Seattle

Seeking info on N.S. BASTION/BASTIAN, when he was principal of the preparatory department (high school) at McKendree College for the school year of 1838-1839. McKendree is a Methodist college in Lebanon, St. Clair Co., and BASTION was appointed to the post as part of the regular Methodist system of appointing their ministers. I have corresponded with the Methodist archivist for the church at the state level. While they have later info on the college, they have no information on any instructors from the 1830s. McKendree also has an archives for the college itself. But the Methodist archivist I emailed with several times a couple of years ago indicated that the college archives were kept very separate, even when the subject matter overlapped. There might be information on BASTION at the college. He told me personal contact was the best way to communicate with the McKendree archivists, so I did not pursue it, since I'm too far away and can't afford to come do it myself, much as I'd love to do a genealogy trip. Wish I'd had the time and interest when I lived in St. Louis 15 years ago! I did go to the campus, but it was a day the library, where the archives are, was closed. So, is there someone who can actually go to the McKendree Archives and see if there is any information on Bastion? If the archivists are reluctant to be helpful, you can bribe them with a promise of a copy of a photograph of Bastion in exchange for information. It doesn't date from that time period, but I do have one of him in distinguished old age. It's not, of course, today's quality, but I could go down to Kinko's and see what they could do with it. That is only if they do have some information, of course! Thanks, Doris Waggoner Seattle

I wish to thank all those who responded to my quiry asking for the Lakeview Memorial Gardens address. I was able to write a letter to the cemetery and hopefully I will get some family info. Much appreciation. Jane in Florida

In a message dated 11/27/2004 8:00:47 PM Central Standard Time, Jane@nut-n-but.net writes: Lakeview Memorial Gardens, Belleville, Illinois. This would have been in 1958. Can anyone on this list give me an address for this cemetery. I have searched the yellow pages and came up empty handed. Many thanks for any help. ===== Jane, I believe the cemetery you want is in Fairview Heights, IL. Here is their address: Lakeview Memorial Gardens, Inc. 5000 North Illinois Street Fairview Heights, IL 62208 Phone: 618-233-7200 Good luck. Gloria

I have an obit for an ancestor that says interment was in Lakeview Memorial Gardens, Belleville, Illinois. This would have been in 1958. Can anyone on this list give me an address for this cemetery. I have searched the yellow pages and came up empty handed. Many thanks for any help. Jane in Florida

I am searching for any information on Raymond Voegeli born about 1909 in St. Louis, Missouri but the family moved back to St. Clair County, IL. He married Alice Clay Rainwater about October 1932. I would appreciate it if anyone could provide information on his birth, christening/baptism, marriage or death. I cannot locate him in the SSDI so Raymond may have been his middle name. Many thanks. Conni Mitchell Braun

Hi Please, anyone know how well the membership of the Genealogical Society of Southern Illinois (at Carterville) is holding? Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks

The St. Clair County HISTorical Society published a Journal article on the Irish in East St. Louis vol. 4 no. 1 - $6.00 (plus add about a $1 for postage) 701 E. Washington St Belleville, ILL 62220 618-234-0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: <CandaceK@aol.com> To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Irish in East St. Louis? > My McCarthy and O'Leary ancestors, according to oral tradition, arrived in > East St. Louis in November, 1848. They are found in Monroe County for the > 1850 > census and thereafter. But I'm looking for information on the Irish in > East St. > Louis about this 1850 time frame. Also, any information on boat travel > between New Orleans and E. St. Louis. Thanks. > >

You can probably find these at the Belleville Library in downtown Belleville. You can write or call the Belleville Library directly, and they can look it up for you. The library charges $10 an hour for searching, and 50 cents per page for copying. It shouldn't take long at all to search because, God bless 'em, the Library has a very large card file containing names, dates, newspaper, and page number of obits, marriages, births, death notices, and other events, filed alphabetically by last name. Their address and phone number are: Belleville Public Library 121 East Washington St. Belleville, IL 62220 Phone: (618) 234-0441 At 06:01 PM 11/15/2004 -0800, Joyce Wafford wrote: >Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to get two obits, that are >quite old, and where I may start as to try to find them? > >I would like obits for a husband and wife. Both died in E. St. Louis >Township, St. Clair County, Illinois. > >NASH, ISAAC A. >Death Date: 1938, April 7 > >NASH, EMMA C. >Death Date: 1923, October 9 > >I am trying to find out if this couple may be related to my NASH family >from St. Francois County, Missouri. > >Thanks to All for any help that you can give me. > >Joyce >Brookings, OR Carrie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...Then they filled, with clear, shallow water, the whole breadth of this broad canal, and set little whirlpools turning in the depths, and for the first time mirrored the green banks and distant calls of birds -- while in the sky the starry nights of another, sweeter country blossomed above them and would never close. Tombs of the Hetaerae, by Rainier Maria Rilke Translation by Stephen Mitchell

Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to get two obits, that are quite old, and where I may start as to try to find them? I would like obits for a husband and wife. Both died in E. St. Louis Township, St. Clair County, Illinois. NASH, ISAAC A. Death Date: 1938, April 7 NASH, EMMA C. Death Date: 1923, October 9 I am trying to find out if this couple may be related to my NASH family from St. Francois County, Missouri. Thanks to All for any help that you can give me. Joyce Brookings, OR

My McCarthy and O'Leary ancestors, according to oral tradition, arrived in East St. Louis in November, 1848. They are found in Monroe County for the 1850 census and thereafter. But I'm looking for information on the Irish in East St. Louis about this 1850 time frame. Also, any information on boat travel between New Orleans and E. St. Louis. Thanks.

Seeking in formation on Mrs. William STANTON, George MORRIS, Mrs. Maude BROWN, Mrs. Helen STRAUB and Mrs. E.C. HOWE. They were the children of Charles Byron MORRIS and Bridget BUTLER MORRIS. Their brother , Jesse Robert MORRIS is my grandfather's name. Merlene

I am searching for the date of marriage of Margaret Elizabeth Hueckel and John Patrick Blaney. It would have taken place during WW II. She was Presbyterian but he was strict Irish Catholic. Can anyone help? Conni Mitchell Braun

Sorry folks, yes, the address to purchase the Belleville 1814-1914 book is (sorry I forgot the address before) St. Clair County Historical Society 701 East Washington Street Belleville, IL 62220

Diane-- Thanks for the announcement. This is maybe a dumb question, but just to be sure...if ordering by mail should we send the request & check to the St. Clair Co. Historical Society? Thanks, Pam Hueckel Diane Walsh wrote: > Here is info on a new book just out about Belleville. Hope you don't mind the 'plug' - I know many people are interested in this type of announcement. > > "Belleville 1814-1914", published by Arcadia Publishing Company, is a > 120 page photo book describing Belleville's first hundred years. The book > uses photos to tell the story of Belleville's founding, German immigration, > development as an industrial power in southern Illinois and centennial > celebration in 1914. The book also has a chapter explaining how the > destruction of the 1860's county courthouse caused a community to adopt a > historic preservation ordinance. The book sells for $20; $23.50 if ordered > by mail. Checks can be made to St. Clair County Historical Society. Call > 235 6471 to buy "Belleville 1814-1914". Proceeds benefit St. Clair County > Historical Society, Gustave Koerner House Restoration Committee and Labor > and Industry Museum.

Here is another book which allows us to 'get into the minds of Germans' during the 1800s in the metro-St.Louis area - why they emigrated, the issues they dealt with upon arrival and settlement, attitudes toward government, their influence on business and commerce in the region.... The first three chapters are articles translated from St. Clair County, Illinois' Gustave Koerner 's writings which he published in German: The German Element in the U.S. 1818-1848; followed by an inside look at Gottfried Duden - the man responsible for writing a immigrant's guide extolling the benefits awaiting those who settled in Missouri area. The German contributions up to the present are pulled together with a final chapter by the editor/translator, Dr. Don Heinrich Tolzmann, Director of German-American Studies at the University of Cincinnati http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/lecture.htm

Here is info on a new book just out about Belleville. Hope you don't mind the 'plug' - I know many people are interested in this type of announcement. "Belleville 1814-1914", published by Arcadia Publishing Company, is a 120 page photo book describing Belleville's first hundred years. The book uses photos to tell the story of Belleville's founding, German immigration, development as an industrial power in southern Illinois and centennial celebration in 1914. The book also has a chapter explaining how the destruction of the 1860's county courthouse caused a community to adopt a historic preservation ordinance. The book sells for $20; $23.50 if ordered by mail. Checks can be made to St. Clair County Historical Society. Call 235 6471 to buy "Belleville 1814-1914". Proceeds benefit St. Clair County Historical Society, Gustave Koerner House Restoration Committee and Labor and Industry Museum.