List, I am attempting to decipher a surname from the parish records of St. Peter's Roman Catholic Church in Belleville. Info as follows, and I am attempting to determine the name of the Godmother. (What I want to do is find this woman in tthe 1870 census, to see if the child being baptised was living with her at the time). child: TROST, Ann Margaret born: 3 Jan, 1868 Baptismal date: 19 Jan, 1868 Parents: Leopold TROST and Mary Sondag (think it's SonTAG) Godparents: Leopold KIEFER and Margaret RENTER/HENTER/REMTER/ HEMTER??? I'm pretty certain of the 2nd, 4th,5th and 6th letters : _E_TER . The first letter is possibly R, H, or K. The 3rd is possibly H, M, N. I'm hoping that someone will recognize this pattern of letters as a surname. Thanks, and happy 4th of July to everyone, Jane Brown Pearland, TX Researching TROST, LETTER, HEMMER, ERNST, WRIGHT, WUERST, WUERTZ, among others in St. Clair Co.

Hi, Carolyn Sue Smith, if you are still a subscriber to this list would you please send me your current email address. Thanks. Nancy Giles

My husband's ancestors immigrated to the US from France via San Lucia, West Indies. The name of his great, great grandfather was Louis Doussard; his wife, M. Louisa, was born either in France or in San Lucia. His son, Joseph LUCIEN Doussard was born in San Lucia about 1826 and died in 1884 in Belleville. According to Louis' obituary, Louis died at sea about 1840 while accompanying young Joseph to France for his education. My questions are: 1. When did Louis' widow and children emigrate to St. Claire County? 2. What became of Joseph's only known sibling, Raymond?; according to the Jacksonville State Hospital Patients directory, 1854-1870, he was admitted in February of 1859 and released in February of 1869 with residence in St. Clair County and next of kin - L. (Joseph LUCIEN?) Doussard, brother, Belleview. If you have any suggestions for my securing these answers, I'd appreciate hearing them. Thank You. Rita Kerber Doussard

I am a descendant of Jean/John Dumoulin, a Swiss who emigrated to Montreal around 1768 then to Cahokia about 1785, where he stayed till his death around 1808. He was judge of the St. Clair County Court of Common Pleas from 1790-95. When he moved to Cahokia, Dumoulin had three living children, born in Montreal: Charles (b 1771), Jean Emmanuel (b 1773), Louise Charles (b 1778) and Marguerite (b 1781), as well as his wife, Charlotte DuChouquet, b 1748. Marguerite returned to Montreal in 1800 to marry there. Charlotte died in Quebec in 1823. I am trying to find out (a) whether Dumoulin and his wife had any children in Cahokia (b) whether any of his children settled in the area and married there and (c) whether he has any known descendants today. Thanks for any help you can provide.

I checked out suvcw.org and found some great links to civil war at bottom of page. Gaylord Rideout Family <wa6ipd@dslextreme.com> wrote: From: "Rideout Family" <wa6ipd@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] railroad workers and civile war Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:25:11 -0700 To: ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com You could also get out of serving by paying someone to take your place. Of my four g grandfathers that served one age 38 needed money so he took the place of another left his wife and new born son in October 1864 and went to war. On the last day of the war for his unit, April 2, 1865 he was severely wounded in an early morning charge at Petersburg VA, he was never the same again. His commanding officer wrote about it years later. IN A CHARGE NEAR FORT HELL http://suvcw.org/mollus/warpapers/MEv2art008.htm Herbert A Rideout Fallbrook, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl" To: Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] railroad workers and civile war >I have an ancestor that did not enlist in the CW although all of his >brothers did. I do know that he worked for the railroad and am wondering if >railway workers were encouraged to remain with the railroad instead of >enlisting. Does anyone have any knowledge of whether this would have been >the case? > Thanks in advance > Cheryl > Clinton County Ohio > > FREE!!! Genealogy software. Use to collect family tree. Use it to download GedCom files or to share GedCom files with new cousins you meet on the internet. Goto LEGACY.COM. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I have an ancestor that did not enlist in the CW although all of his brothers did. I do know that he worked for the railroad and am wondering if railway workers were encouraged to remain with the railroad instead of enlisting. Does anyone have any knowledge of whether this would have been the case? Thanks in advance Cheryl Clinton County Ohio

You could also get out of serving by paying someone to take your place. Of my four g grandfathers that served one age 38 needed money so he took the place of another left his wife and new born son in October 1864 and went to war. On the last day of the war for his unit, April 2, 1865 he was severely wounded in an early morning charge at Petersburg VA, he was never the same again. His commanding officer wrote about it years later. IN A CHARGE NEAR FORT HELL http://suvcw.org/mollus/warpapers/MEv2art008.htm Herbert A Rideout Fallbrook, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl" <cjordan3@cinci.rr.com> To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] railroad workers and civile war >I have an ancestor that did not enlist in the CW although all of his >brothers did. I do know that he worked for the railroad and am wondering if >railway workers were encouraged to remain with the railroad instead of >enlisting. Does anyone have any knowledge of whether this would have been >the case? > Thanks in advance > Cheryl > Clinton County Ohio > >

Greetings, Listers! In case you heard about the explosions in the St. Louis City area today, there is a story about it online at: www.stltoday.com Lots of excitement here today. Shut down Highway 40 and they evacuated 5 square blocks of the city due to the possible danger of chlorine gas and gas canisters flying through the air. They delayed the ballgame by 30 minutes but the Cards are winning 8 to 1. Gloria

From another list: From: Pearson, Tom A. Civil War Program 6 July 2005 Colonel Friedrich Hecker Camp #443 Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Proudly Presents: "A Walk Through 143 Years of History at Camp Butler" by Bill Rhoades Director, Camp Butler National Cemetery The presentation is FREE and the PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND Wednesday Evening at 7:30 P.M. July 6, 2005 Meeting Room at Southwestern Illinois College's Programs and Services for Older Persons Corner of North Church and East B Street, Belleville, Illinois Camp Butler was formed at Springfield, Illinois as the main training, muster in and muster out location for tens of thousands of Civil War soldiers from Central and Southern Illinois throughout the war. It also served as a prison for Confederates. Mr. Rhoades will tell the fascinating story of the recruits' training (or lack of it), medicine of the day, prison conditions and other experiences at Camp Butler. He will trace the development of Camp Butler into today's National Cemetery. For More Information call Dennis A. Hermann 618-235-5720

Thanks to you all Someone helped me find it..in Monroe County--Maeystown. So how wrong could I get. I will try better next time. Thanks dc ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorac" <dorac@comcast.net> To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Fw: [ILSTCLAI] 1870 census > Maybe I am wrong..somewhere in Monroe County? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dorac" <dorac@comcast.net> > To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:32 PM > Subject: [ILSTCLAI] 1870 census > > >>I am trying to figure out where Macystown or Marystown was in the 1870 >> census? Anyone know the proximity of that place? >> Thanks >> dc >> >> >> > >

Maybe I am wrong..somewhere in Monroe County? ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorac" <dorac@comcast.net> To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] 1870 census >I am trying to figure out where Macystown or Marystown was in the 1870 > census? Anyone know the proximity of that place? > Thanks > dc > > >

I am trying to figure out where Macystown or Marystown was in the 1870 census? Anyone know the proximity of that place? Thanks dc

Three little words: label your stuff. What's the difference between memorabilia and old junk? Knowing what the item is, or who it depicts. This is way too simple and obvious to make a presentation on, but if we all did it, what a difference it would make. My grandmother, who lived to be 94, wrote labels and little notes on everything -- items that would be meaningless or incomprehensible if she hadn't taken the time to do so. Photographs especially, but also the sort of items no one could imagine -- like a toy horse made for her older brother, who died at age 7, the outside of which is made from their father's Civil War tent. Harold > 2. Perhaps some of you out there have an idea or two to share on the List > along the memorabilia preserving lines. It would not necessarily have to be > something you have done-maybe you saw it somewhere. Harold Henderson, hhsh@earthlink.net, looking for HENDERSON, MACRAE, DAVIDSON, JOHNSTONE in Scotland ANDERSSON/BORING, SVENSSON, BOGREN in Jönköping, Sweden STENBERG, JOHANSDOTTER in Skaraborg, Sweden THRALL in New England, Ohio, Illinois JAMES in Pembrokeshire, Wales; Pennsylvania, Ohio FLINT, GEDNEY in Lincolnshire, England; Illinois SCHREIBER, STOCKER in Kanton Aargau, Switzerland; Illinois JOSS, STAUDENMANN in Kanton Bern, Switzerland; Ohio, Illinois SCHOLES, MILLS in Lancashire, England; Wisconsin MOZLEY in Nottinghamshire, England; Pennsylvania, Wisconsin VAN NATTA/VAN ETTEN in New Netherlands, New York, Pennsylvania BOREN, LINHART, BLACK in Pennsylvania COCHRAN in North Carolina & Pennsylvania BASSETT, COON, BLISS, HUMPHREY, BURDICK, CAMPBELL, CRANDALL, DENISON in New England & New York http://wc.rootsweb.com/~hendersonscholes

Hi Diane. I'm a member of the SCCGS as well as a board member of our local genealogy society (Elgin, IL) and we had a speaker back in 2003 from the Illinois Association of Museums. She drove up here (45 miles west of Chicago) from Springfield so I'm sure she would drive to Belleville. She spoke on the preserving family heirlooms and gave each attendee a very nice packet of information. I have an extra packet and would be happy to send it to you. We had a great turnout for that meeting and I'm sure you would as well. Please contact me off list with your mailing address if you would like the packet. Judy researching Farrell, Fansher, Ragan and Westerfield in East St. Louis Diane Walsh wrote: > This is slightly off-topic. First concerns the library, the other the > List. > > 1.The library wants someone to lecture on interesting ways of > displaying or preserving memorabilia. > > They have had the scrapbooking idea already - looking for another > presentation that will demonstrate other creative ideas for a wide > range of artifacts. > > If you know of someone in the St. Clair county area who might fill > these shoes, please contact me with that person's information. > > 2. Perhaps some of you out there have an idea or two to share on the > List along the memorabilia preserving lines. It would not necessarily > have to be something you have done-maybe you saw it somewhere. > > For example, a woman I knew had collected spoons from every country > she visited over the decades. She divided the collection amongst her > heirs, each heir picking a certain number of spoons. Then the spoons > were mounted in a shadow box lined with that special cloth used to > wrap silverware. A memory about each spoon was typed and mounted on > the back of the box. > > Any other ideas out there? > >

The correct web URL is http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/stcabout.htm For more information on this project, see the SCCGS web site

This is slightly off-topic. First concerns the library, the other the List. 1.The library wants someone to lecture on interesting ways of displaying or preserving memorabilia. They have had the scrapbooking idea already - looking for another presentation that will demonstrate other creative ideas for a wide range of artifacts. If you know of someone in the St. Clair county area who might fill these shoes, please contact me with that person's information. 2. Perhaps some of you out there have an idea or two to share on the List along the memorabilia preserving lines. It would not necessarily have to be something you have done-maybe you saw it somewhere. For example, a woman I knew had collected spoons from every country she visited over the decades. She divided the collection amongst her heirs, each heir picking a certain number of spoons. Then the spoons were mounted in a shadow box lined with that special cloth used to wrap silverware. A memory about each spoon was typed and mounted on the back of the box. Any other ideas out there?

List, Great news, the first 100 rolls of probate case files for St. Clair are now in the drawers at the Belleville Public Library (BPL) http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/BPL.htm An additional 110 rolls of intestate reels should arrive by mid-July. Separate indexes are also at the BPL: Probate Record-Wills [originals,, earliest, not court copy in record book] Rolls 1-50 Non-Probated Wills [most in 1960s, 1970s] Rolls 1-6 Probate Records of the Circuit Clerk [Estates, early] Rolls 1-44. Several researchers have expressed their support and thanks for this project by donating towards purchase of a probate roll in memory of an ancestor or ancestors. SCCGS thanks them for their generosity and thoughtfulness-we all benefit. For more information on this project, see the SCCGS web site http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/about.htm

Looking for information on the following people children of Jacob Constant and Permelia Crocker M 1829 in Sangamon county David Clark Constant M; Annette Snow 1 son David Jr Thomas Constant M; Sarah Cass 1858 1 son Cass Mary L M; John Rinker Permelia die 1847 Jacob remarried 1847 to Celia Talbot who's maiden name was Wakefield The Crocker and Wakefield families were from St Clair County in the early 1880, the following are there children Charles Albert B: 1848 M; Sarah Horn Harriet B: 1850 M: S. Baugh(Ball) Sarah B;1852 Permelia A. B: 1855 M: William Fain Any help on this family would really be appreciated. Nadine

> Hi Everyone, > > St. Louis Public Library cordially invites you to a presentation by noted > genealogist Pamela Boyer Porter here at St. Louis Public Library. She will > be speaking on the subject of Missouri Migration, in a talk called "There > and Back Again: Migration To and From Missouri", which will include "Clues > in Missouri Migration" and "West From Missouri". > > The presentation is on Saturday, June 25, from 10AM to Noon at Central > Library, 1301 Olive Street. The program is free; you do not need to be a > city resident or have a library card to attend. Parking is free. > > Registration is strongly suggested. Please call (314)539-0385 or email me > at mailto:ksmith@slpl.lib.mo.us to register, or for further information. > > Please join us - it will be a great presentation! > > Sincerely, > > Kathleen J. Smith > Librarian > History & Genealogy

Hi Everyone, St. Louis Public Library cordially invites you to a presentation by noted genealogist Pamela Boyer Porter here at St. Louis Public Library. She will be speaking on the subject of Missouri Migration, in a talk called "There and Back Again: Migration To and From Missouri", which will include "Clues in Missouri Migration" and "West From Missouri". The presentation is on Saturday, June 25, from 10AM to Noon at Central Library, 1301 Olive Street. The program is free; you do not need to be a city resident or have a library card to attend. Parking is free. Registration is strongly suggested. Please call (314)539-0385 or email me at mailto:ksmith@slpl.lib.mo.us to register, or for further information. Please join us - it will be a great presentation! Sincerely, Kathleen J. Smith Librarian History & Genealogy