From the Madison County list > Chicago Tribune site search & archives: > > http://tinyurl.com/8q58y You get redirected to another site (newsbank)but it appears the search and abstract/transcript is free from a test I did Diane

Sorry, guys, it's quick and for a kid's school project! (and you are the ones I thought might follow through, either because you're teachers, you have kids, you like science, you're looking for names for future children or you're just plain nice. This is for a Science Fair project. If you could do this I would appreciate it! DON'T ASK, JUST PLAY! Copy and paste this letter into a new email (PLEASE do NOT hit "Forward"), then read the list of names. If your name is on the list, put a star * next to it. If not, then add your name (in alphabetical order, put no star.) Send it to ten people and send it back to the person who sent it to you. Put your name in the subject box! You'll see what happens - it's kind of cool! Please keep this going. Don't MESS it up, please Abbey Adam Adrienne Alan Alice Alison Amanda* Amelia Amy Andrea* Andy Angela* Ann****** Anna Anne Art* Audra Avery Barbara Becky Brian Carol Caroline Cecelia Charlene Christa Connie Dana Darnell Deanna Debbie Denise Diane Dionne Donna Eddie Geoffrey Gina Heather Janet Jennifer Jim Jo Joe* Joni Joyce Judy Julie* Kathryn Kathy* Kelly Ken Kenda Leanna Linda Lisa** Marj Marilyn Mary* Melinda Melissa Michelle Pat Patti Paul Peggy Ruth Samantha Sandra Sarah Scott Shannon Sharon* Sherry Stacy Stella Tana Ted Terri Theresa* Tracy * Trisha Troy Wanda Thank you. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very, very, very, very, very sorry. I do not know how this ended up being sent to this list. Please disregard. This is so embarrassing and I can't apologize enough. Sorry everyone. But Thank you to the people who have responded to it Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Collins<mailto:nibdipper@msn.com> To: ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Sorry, guys, it's quick and for a kid's school project! (and you are the ones I thought might follow through, either because you're teachers, you have kids, you like science, you're looking for names for future children or you're just plain nice. This is for a Science Fair project. If you could do this I would appreciate it! DON'T ASK, JUST PLAY! Copy and paste this letter into a new email (PLEASE do NOT hit "Forward"), then read the list of names. If your name is on the list, put a star * next to it. If not, then add your name (in alphabetical order, put no star.) Send it to ten people and send it back to the person who sent it to you. Put your name in the subject box! You'll see what happens - it's kind of cool! Please keep this going. Don't MESS it up, please Abbey Adam Adrienne Alan Alice Alison Amanda* Amelia Amy Andrea* Andy Angela* Ann****** Anna Anne Art* Audra Avery Barbara Becky Brian Carol Caroline Cecelia Charlene Christa Connie Dana Darnell Deanna Debbie Denise Diane Dionne Donna Eddie Geoffrey Gina Heather Janet Jennifer Jim Jo Joe* Joni Joyce Judy Julie* Kathryn Kathy* Kelly Ken Kenda Leanna Linda Lisa** Marj Marilyn Mary* Melinda Melissa Michelle Pat Patti Paul Peggy Ruth Sandra Sarah Scott Shannon Sharon* Sherry Stacy Stella Tana Ted Terri Theresa* Tracy * Trisha Troy Wanda Thank you.

Sorry, guys, it's quick and for a kid's school project! (and you are the ones I thought might follow through, either because you're teachers, you have kids, you like science, you're looking for names for future children or you're just plain nice. This is for a Science Fair project. If you could do this I would appreciate it! DON'T ASK, JUST PLAY! Copy and paste this letter into a new email (PLEASE do NOT hit "Forward"), then read the list of names. If your name is on the list, put a star * next to it. If not, then add your name (in alphabetical order, put no star.) Send it to ten people and send it back to the person who sent it to you. Put your name in the subject box! You'll see what happens - it's kind of cool! Please keep this going. Don't MESS it up, please Abbey Adam Adrienne Alan Alice Alison Amanda* Amelia Amy Andrea* Andy Angela* Ann****** Anna Anne Art* Audra Avery Barbara Becky Brian Carol Caroline Cecelia Charlene Christa Connie Dana Darnell Deanna Debbie Denise Diane Dionne Donna Eddie Geoffrey Gina Heather Janet Jennifer Jim Jo Joe* Joni Joyce Judy Julie* Kathryn Kathy* Kelly Ken Kenda Leanna Linda Lisa** Marj Marilyn Mary* Melinda Melissa Michelle Pat Patti Paul Peggy Ruth Sandra Sarah Scott Shannon Sharon* Sherry Stacy Stella Tana Ted Terri Theresa* Tracy * Trisha Troy Wanda Thank you.

My 1928 edition of the __East St. Louis, Fairmont, National City, Washington Park Directory, 1928__, by Huber Directory Co., Alton, Ill shows p. 284 - Rev. Jos. Kardos, pastor Hungarian Presbyterian Church; resides 1131 Trendley ave. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorothy norland" <dnorland@earthlink.net> To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Church >I was wondering if anyone knows the name of the church that was located at >11th and Trendley Ave in 1923 in E. St. Louis. My relative's obit reads >that the funeral will leave the home on Piggott Ave and proceed to the >Hungarian Church at 11th and Trendley with Rev. Kardos officiating. The >Belleville Diocese does not have a church listed at list address in their >archives and does not recognize the name Rev Kardos. Perhaps, this was not >a Catholic Church. I have tried to find a church at this location in 2005 >without success. Any assistance would be aprreciated. > >

I didn't find the name of the church, but I found an article in the Edwardsville Intelligencer that mentioned Reverend Joseph Kardos, Hungarian Presbyterian minister in E. St. Louis. But now at least you know his first name, and you know that the church was Presbyterian. Here is the relevant paragraph: February 10, 1921: ... Rev. Elliott in his talk told how Rev. Joseph Kardos, Hungarian Presbyterian minister, single handed saved his church from the rioters who were destroying property in the race riot in East St. Louis two years ago. At 12:39 PM 10/23/2005 -0500, dorothy norland wrote: >I was wondering if anyone knows the name of the church that was located at >11th and Trendley Ave in 1923 in E. St. Louis. My relative's obit reads >that the funeral will leave the home on Piggott Ave and proceed to the >Hungarian Church at 11th and Trendley with Rev. Kardos officiating. >The Belleville Diocese does not have a church listed at list address in >their archives and does not recognize the name Rev Kardos. Perhaps, this >was not a Catholic Church. I have tried to find a church at this location >in 2005 without success. Any assistance would be aprreciated. Carrie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...Then they filled, with clear, shallow water, the whole breadth of this broad canal, and set little whirlpools turning in the depths, and for the first time mirrored the green banks and distant calls of birds -- while in the sky the starry nights of another, sweeter country blossomed above them and would never close. Tombs of the Hetaerae, by Rainier Maria Rilke Translation by Stephen Mitchell

I was wondering if anyone knows the name of the church that was located at 11th and Trendley Ave in 1923 in E. St. Louis. My relative's obit reads that the funeral will leave the home on Piggott Ave and proceed to the Hungarian Church at 11th and Trendley with Rev. Kardos officiating. The Belleville Diocese does not have a church listed at list address in their archives and does not recognize the name Rev Kardos. Perhaps, this was not a Catholic Church. I have tried to find a church at this location in 2005 without success. Any assistance would be aprreciated.

For those interested, the Soc of American Archivists page has info on the effect hurricanes on documents in the South http://www.archivists.org/

From another List - FYI ==================== Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Genealogy Help We all know a lot about genealogy but sometimes we miss the basics. And we can all learn more. You can never know it all about genealogy. The internet is full of free genealogy resources. Take some time to polish your skills. I'm sure there are many sites with useful information but here are a couple all inclusive sites. I'll bet if you just scan the sites you'll find one or two things you didn't know -- and maybe something to set you on a new path to breaking down a brick wall. http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ http://www.genealogy.com/genehelp.html

The following is from another List: ================= Ancestry Quick Tip Help with Property Descriptions George (Goodrich) Farrell In tracing ancestors you will frequently find references to property. It may be described in metes (metes) and bounds, or as section, 14 Twp number 20, or SW 1/4 of NE 1/2. What does it all mean and how can you locate the property? There is an excellent website that will take you through the whole procedure. It explains it very clearly. If on the other hand you encounter the word "portiones" (there are other spellings) it is Spanish for portions. This is a term used in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California to describe early Spanish Land grants. In dry country they were often very long and narrow, fronting on a river to give each holder access to water. The website is at: http://nationalatlas.gov/articles/boundaries/a_plss.html. ==== StLouis-MO Mailing List ==== Visit the St. Louis website http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostloui ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Rev. Samuel H. Thompson was presiding elder of the Illinois Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church and minister of the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church at belleview, Illinois from 1840-41. Although he is mentioned by name only in several state genealogy books, little direct information is available about his family. Can anyone confirm that he and wife Nancy died and are buried in St. Clair county? He died 1841, she after 1857.

Guess you haven't heard. The wonderful mayor's office has CLOSED all libraries INDEFINITELY!!! They have laid off 197 library employees and kept on 17 (i believe). But I do have ancestry and perhaps can find those records. Just to let you know, the archives is fine at the library. They had minimal damage in the basement. The link to there website is www.NUTRIAS.org. ========================= The above is information from another List concerning the records in New Orleans. I thought those of you with connections there might be interested in knowing this. Gloria

I have just added a new database to my website. It is the Mascoutah Herald deaths from 1912-1971. You can see it at http://home.swbell.net/bobbiev/mascoutah.html. Good researching, Bobbie

Would the person that answered this please e-mail me again as I am having problems receiving aol Thanks Nadine ----- Original Message ----- From: Nadine Durazo<mailto:ndurazo@msn.com> To: ilstclai-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:ilstclai-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Crocker/Wakefield Received the probate record for Thomas Crocker who was dead by 1818 and my Permelia is listed , but I'm more confused , this Thomas married Elizabeth Wakefield , after his death she married David Riddle in Sangamon county. Does this spark the interest to someone else who is researching this line Nadine

Received the probate record for Thomas Crocker who was dead by 1818 and my Permelia is listed , but I'm more confused , this Thomas married Elizabeth Wakefield , after his death she married David Riddle in Sangamon county. Does this spark the interest to someone else who is researching this line Nadine

Hello List, I have a Priscilla Clara FERRELL (AKA Clara Priscilla FERRELL), who married John Louis WOODS 5 Jan 1866 in St Clair County, Illinois. Priscilla / Clara FERREL was born 2 Srp 1844 and died 25 Jun 1916. According to census records her father was either born in Massachusetts (1880 census) or Vermont (1910 Census). Her mother was born in Illinois. She and John had at 7 children, in 1910 only 2 were living, one of which was the son, Martin WOODS who was living in Missouri at the time of her death. I am a WOODS descendant, but would like to know about Priscilla's ancestor's as well. I currently have nothing for them. I also do not have a date of death for John L WOODS. Thank you very much, Debbie V. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

According to 'Land Transactions in Illinois Prior to the Sale of Public Domain' by Raymond H. Hammes, in __Journal of the Illinois State Historical Society,__ LXXVII: 2, Summer 1984, p. 112-113: Claims rejected appear in American State Papers: Public Lands II. The first report of the Commissioners was submitted 31 Dec 1809. Approved claims are listed separately from Rejected Claims *with reason given*. This would include your period of interest. Congress accepted and confirmed these findings on 1 May 1810. A couple years later a second Board of Commissioners was established to review/approve/reject confirmations of claims made by Govs. St. Clair and Harrison --submitted to Congress 1813 and confirmed 1 Apr 1814 (also appears in ASP-PL) Hammes goes on to say 50% of all claims were rejected, commonly due to fraud, forgery, perjury, but also by testimony of witnesses when the claim was known to be false (p. 113). Anyone whose settlers had a land interest in Illinois during the territorial period and earlier, will find the above cited article summarizes the land issues quite nicely. The Belleville Public Library (http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/BPL.htm or their own new web site at: www.bellevillepubliclibrary.org ) has this article; as does the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library in Springfield (http://www.alplm.org/library/published_materials.html - 112 North Sixth Street, Springfield, IL 62701-1507.) Diane W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Perrault" <perrault@AI.SRI.COM> To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Illinois land claims > I've seen many mentions of how much fraud there was in the allocation of > land claims in Illinois, of particular interest to me in the period of > about 1785 to 1805. There are many lists of grants allowed, but is there > a way to find information about claims that were denied, particularly with > reasons, which would give some indication of the amount and perpetrators > of the fraud? > >

Diane, Thanks to you and another lister for pointing me to the American State Papers, which I found online on the Library of Congress site. http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwsp.html --r At 12:01 PM -0500 10/2/05, Diane Walsh wrote: >According to 'Land Transactions in Illinois Prior to the Sale of >Public Domain' by Raymond H. Hammes, in __Journal of the Illinois >State Historical Society,__ LXXVII: 2, Summer 1984, p. 112-113: > >Claims rejected appear in American State Papers: Public Lands II. >The first report of the Commissioners was submitted 31 Dec 1809. >Approved claims are listed separately from Rejected Claims *with >reason given*. This would include your period of interest. Congress >accepted and confirmed these findings on 1 May 1810. > >A couple years later a second Board of Commissioners was established >to review/approve/reject confirmations of claims made by Govs. St. >Clair and Harrison --submitted to Congress 1813 and confirmed 1 Apr >1814 (also appears in ASP-PL) > >Hammes goes on to say 50% of all claims were rejected, commonly due >to fraud, forgery, perjury, but also by testimony of witnesses when >the claim was known to be false (p. 113). > >Anyone whose settlers had a land interest in Illinois during the >territorial period and earlier, will find the above cited article >summarizes the land issues quite nicely. The Belleville Public >Library (http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/BPL.htm or their >own new web site at: www.bellevillepubliclibrary.org ) has this >article; as does the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library in >Springfield (http://www.alplm.org/library/published_materials.html >- 112 North Sixth Street, Springfield, IL 62701-1507.) > >Diane W. > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Perrault" <perrault@AI.SRI.COM> >To: <ILSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:21 PM >Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Illinois land claims > >>I've seen many mentions of how much fraud there was in the >>allocation of land claims in Illinois, of particular interest to me >>in the period of about 1785 to 1805. There are many lists of >>grants allowed, but is there a way to find information about claims >>that were denied, particularly with reasons, which would give some >>indication of the amount and perpetrators of the fraud?

The Graduating Classes of the Closed Catholic High Schools East St. Louis, Illinois 1894 thru 1989 A Project for the St. Clair County Genealogical Society by Sandi Bennett and Judy Jennings A list of the graduates from: St. Teresa Academy ­ 1894 ­ 1974 Central Catholic High School ­ 1929 ­ 1952 St. Mary High School ­ 1949 ­ 1954 Assumption High School ­ 1952 - 1989 Each school is listed individually, by graduation year. A surname index is planned following the AHS listings. There are approximately 10,000 names. The parish or church/city name is included whenever available. There are approximately 125 graduating classes covering over 135 years of instruction. For further information contact: Sandi Bennett E-mail: sandied@apci.net Phone: (618) 632-5245 Pre-publication price: $15.00 postpaid, payable to SCCGS, P. O. Box 431, Belleville, IL 62222-0431. Publication is expected late Oct. or early Nov.

I am interested in specific, metro St. Clair County, Illinois references in the 1850-55 period, that discuss methods by which children from this area were transplanted to Iowa? Did local ministers send children west to new parishes or congregations for indenture/adoption? Diane