Does anyone on the list know what the earliest date of burials are in Belleville's Holy Cross Cemetery? What Belleville cemeteries existed in 1848-53?

I requested a marriage record for Charles Held and Caroline Elend and received the marriage record for a (Os.?) J. Rapier and Henrettte Lynch. The marriage took place 12 Nov 1883 at the Belleville Baptist Church. I will be happy to send this record to anyone connected to this couple. It is of no value to me as it is not connected to any of my families. Constance --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/02

Hi Everyone, I received this site from my Oneida County New York list and thought it was worth passing on. I deleted the original message so I'm sending the link and retyping parts of that message. Be patient as the site is so busy. "You can look for a headstone hunter in the area you think your ancestor is buried. Or you can post your request and someone will volunteer to take photos of the headstone if there is one." This was posted by Ruth in response to a question posted on the Oneida list. http://www.headstonehunter.com/index.html Have a great day Sande in CA Heely, Glenn, Klaus, Seeger/Saeger, Randleman, Holcomb, Furr, Landreth, Louder/Lowder, Stull, Tanury, Salim

I’m hoping someone out there can help me. My ancestor Spencer Donegan shows up in the Illinois State Archives as proving his freedom with 21 signatures in 1847 in St. Clair Co. I’m trying to figure out why he would be in St. Clair Co. in the first place. He was born in Ky., but then lived in Springfield, IL and Lincoln, IL. Was St. Clair Co the place where all free Black men had to go to register? I did not find him on any census for 1840. I hope someone has run into this type of situation. Thanks for your time. Patrice Wilson

Does anyone have a clue what part of the 1920 census Bellville RT 3 would be? Any help would be appreciated. Also, has anyone found an easy way to find ANYTHING/ANYBODY/ANYWHERE in the census records format listed on Ancestry.com? I am so very frustrated and cross-eyed at this time. Thanks! Pam Reaney McDonald Researching: Glenn/Reaney in St. Clair Co.

Eight volunteers are needed to help this coming TUESDAY, 22 Jan 2002 at the Belleville Public Library 9:00 a.m. until noon only. 40 Whiteside School 8th graders will get hands-on experience using a few of the sources available to genealogists. We need --two people who have used and are familiar with microfilm machines (film and fiche loading) --two people familiar with Internet searches, particularly the Statewide Marriage Index and the Family History Library Ancestral File search. --five people to 'staff' one table each assisting these teens as they write letters to IRAD, abstract a will, transcribe an obituary abstract, look up census, and compare census neighbors to those on a landownership map. If you can volunteer, please reply to me directly, off the list. Thank you, Diane [email protected] (may have to cut and paste)

I received this from another newsgroup that may be of interest to some German researchers. Lynn Jim Rader wrote: > > For those of you who were at todays GAS meeting > the new book set is advertized on line > > Even More Palatine Families: > 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies > and Their German, Swiss, and Austrian Origins > by > Henry Z Jones, Jr.., FASG & > Lewis Bunker Rohrbach, CG > http://www.hankjones.com/evenmore.htm > > A partial list of documented data in the > three-volume set includes: > > New discoveries on German origins of many > Palatines emigrating in 1709 > The full 1709 Rotterdam embarkation lists and the > 1710-12 NY Hunter Rolls > 650+ pages on Swiss and German families settled in > North Carolina 1710-11 > Lists of Palatines returning from England to > Holland in 1710 and 1717 > 800+ pages on later Palatine arrivals in Colonial > New York 1717-76 > Emigration data from German archives on > Pennsylvania Settlers 1727-1760 > Data on immigrants to America from Canton Zürich > in the 1730s > Lists of Salzburgers going to America and passing > through Schwäbisch Hall, 1750s > Nova Scotia Palatine passenger lists 1750-52 > > -- > Jim Rader - 916-366-6833 www.rader.org > [email protected] 2633 Gilbert Way Rancho Cordova, CA > > ==== CA-SACRAMENTO-EVENTS Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command > unsubscribe > > and no additional text. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

After several months of work, and a few months of being "unofficially" open, we would like to invite you to stop by the official grand opening of the O'Fallon Historical Society website at http://www.ofallonhistory.org. Our initial offering includes the complete text and pictures from the 1954 O'Fallon Centennial Program, an as of now partial (but ever growing) index to marriage and death notices from the O'Fallon Progress, articles on O'Fallon businesses, transcriptions of some of the old "social columns" from the Progress (covering many nearby communities), some vintage photographs from our collections, and much more! We have message boards where you can post both genealogical and history queries, and you can search the index of the Society's collections online. We are very excited about our debut and hope that you will stop by to have a look. The site as you see it now is just the beginning. Over time we will be adding many more photographs, additional information on businesses, and the old Schwarz Funeral Home records, just to name a few things. We even hope to have a "virtual tour" of the Historical Society Museum one of these days! Oh, and if you stop by, please take a moment to sign our Guestbook! Best regards, Nan Cole, webmaster The O'Fallon Historical Society, Inc.

URGENT REQUEST!: Now that we are over the holidays, This years is our 350th Anniversary of the landing of the Swartwout family in North America. The name has many variations such as Swarthout, Swartout, Swartwood, Swathwood, Swarthwood etc. We need help in gather lines, pictures, articles, wills, what ever you have stashed in your attic. We would really appreciated it if you shared with us what you had, there a literally thousands of us here looking for our roots, looking for connections. For our 350th Anniversary we need to updated our list of folks out there that are descendants somewhere along the line of any of those variations. We also have a family newsletter that cost only $5.00 per year, a real bargain. Just send it your mailing address. Every day I get e-mail asking me for help. Up here in Canada, there were two brothers that had huge families, all the remains of their descendants are the female sides. All the male went back to the States. I'm am the maintainer of "The Updated Swartwout Chronicles" People submit their lines-ged-coms etc. and I just drop them into the data base. It is everyone's database. Each person is responsible for their own submissions. It is not copyrighted. Kathy [email protected] [email protected]

Catholic records project update-- The church register microfilm has been duplicated and records from approximately 147 parishes after 1930 have been edited out. The quality is comparable to the originals at the diocesan office although the books on those originals vary in quality from barely to easily readable. The majority are quite readable. The film sets still have to be compared to each other to be sure they are identical, the finding aid needs development and the boxes need labeling. The project completion date is still sometime this Spring 2002. Complete sets will be available at both the Belleville Public Library and the St. Louis County Library. A finding aid is being developed to ease location of the church most likely to hold the register you might need. Sometime later we hope to post this finding aid to the SCCGS web site with links to the Belleville Diocesan web site which has a map of church locations by county and city. A web page describing the kind of information you might expect to find in the registers is forthcoming. For those unfamiliar with this project, the St. Clair County Genealogical Society obtained permission from the diocese to make duplicate copies of the church registers from archival security microfilm at their office for all parishes in the diocese. This basically covers all of southern Illinois from St. Clair county east and south, about 147 parishes in all. The importance of these records for research purposes includes documentation of birth, baptism, marriage and death during a period when vital statistics were unrecorded at the county or state level, particularly before 1916. Funding for the project comes from the generous donations of individuals (SCCGS members and non-members), with the SCCGS treasury covering the balance. The cost of the project is estimated at $3000.00, of which $750.00 has been collected from donations to date. Donor names appear in the society Quarterly just mailed (24:4, 2002). Contributions may be forwarded to the society c/o Sandi Bennett. Some web sites to help you prepare for the debut of the project follow (may have to *cut and paste* the URLs): Family History Library Research Guidance -- online Latin dictionary and word list [the majority of records are in Latin] http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/rg/frameset_rg.asp?Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid=& Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab=&Entry=&Guide=WLLatin.AS P Diocese of Belleville (great map and contact information) http://www.diobelle.org/parishes/index.html SCCGS web site http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/stchome.htm St.Louis county library Special Collections web site http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/ Belleville Public Library policy and holdings http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/bpl.htm Possible off-shoots from this project include posting of indexes or abstracts of the data to the web at a URL of the volunteers choice [may include but is not limited to Rootsweb, the St. Clair GenWeb Project pages, the SCCGS web site, personal web sites and Rootsweb Archives]. Such indexes/abstracts would make it easier for researchers to locate a particular event. SCCGS would like to post a 'Project in Progress' web page to keep people up-to-date on such endevours and the URL where posted. If interested in coordinating a particular parish record abstract, please contact me at [email protected] Diane Walsh Catholic Records Project Coordinator

I am seeking information about the Stuart Famil(ies) of St. Clair County, IL . I believe there may be two: one related to early settler Alphonso Stuart, who was killed in a sham duel in 1818, and another that I am related to. My GGgrandmother was Anna Stuart, who married to O.C. Bates in 1867. Anna was the daughter of William H Stuart. I have found an 1860 census entry for William H Stuart (47, Penn) in St. Clair County. Wife: Sarah B,(31, KY), children: Anna M (14, MO), Alphonzo H (11, KY), Shep??? C. (8, IL), Henry (1, IL). I have not been able to find any other information out about any of the Stuart family before or after the 1860 census, with the exception of my GGgrandmother, Anna Stuart Bates. Oddly enough, my husband was able to spend a few brief hours in the Belleville, IL library and brought me a copy of an article that ran Jan 6, 1870, about long-time Belleville resident: "Wm. Henry Stuart, Esq., together with his family removed from Belleville to their newly acquired home in the South, about six miles from the city of Natchez where Mr. S intends on embarking in the business of raising cotton." I have NO idea if this W.H. Stuart is the father of my GGGrandmother, W.H. Stuart's in the St. Clair county area. If you have any information you'd like to share, please reply to Anne Camden ([email protected]).

To order files see the IRAD homepage here http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/irad/iradhome.html You can also visit (see same page). The interns retrieve the documents requested, generally one at a time so files do not get mixed together--at least that is how it is supposed to be. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Jordan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:13 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] SIU > What is the procedure for searching the files that are stored at SIU? Is it > possible to go there and search records yourself or can only the librarians > do this? > Cheryl Jordan > Clinton County, Ohio > descendant of Mathias Sarlouis, New Athens, IL circa 1860 > >

Could/would some one do a lookup for me on the 1865 IL state census. I am looking for a reference to Margaret SARLOUIS or William SARLOUIS or Christopher SARLOUIS or Peter EMGE or Mathias SARLOUIS. Mathias and Margaret were husband and wife. Christopher, William, and Mrs. Peter (Mary Ann) EMGE were children. Thanks so much, Cheryl Jordan Clinton County, Ohio

What is the procedure for searching the files that are stored at SIU? Is it possible to go there and search records yourself or can only the librarians do this? Cheryl Jordan Clinton County, Ohio descendant of Mathias Sarlouis, New Athens, IL circa 1860

I am trying to learn the names of Elijah Goodwin's parents. He was born about 1837. His military enlistment record states he resided Lebanon. I have not been able to find a Goodwin household in 1850 or 1860 St. Clair that includes Elijah Goodwin. Is anyone familiar with Goodwins in St. Clair County around that time frame? Thanks, Kath.

Michelle If you did not receive a answer to you r request below please let me know. pattie Michelle Sherman wrote: > > I am trying to contact anyone who might have a copy of a recent obit for great uncle, Odis W. KINZY who died on November 4, 2001. I believe that the notices were published in the paper on or about November 6, 2001 possibly November 7, 2001. > > Since this is such a recent death, I'm hoping that someone might have a copy of the obit and are willing to email me the contents. > > Sincerely, > Michelle Kinzy-Sherman > > Michelle Sherman > PO Box 292 > Seffner, FL 33583 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Searching the Kinzy, Hubbard, Porterfield > related families of Georgia and South Carolina. > > Also, searching the Vaughn, Hargett and > West families of Kentucky and Ohio.

Looking for any information on Daniel and Elizabeth SCHUPP, son Isaac and daughter Elizabeth They were in St. Clair county, about 1840-1860, living near Caseyville and later in Bellville. Dutch Researching: SCHUPP,SCHULER,KRIEG,RAPP,KELLER,McGILLEM (Genealogy) Web Page: Dutch's Place, http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dutchsplace Amateur Radio K9FPA

For the list in general--See Kathy Hinckley's article which critques some of the online courses and warns about one or two in "Genealogical Education - Part I Online and Home Study Courses" here http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/57_kathy.html I recommend without hesitation the NGS courses Diane Walsh

I have lost the email where someone was looking for an obit lookup. In the Belleville News-Democrat paper January 1, 2001 the following : Deaths Vernell E. Albert Arthur Ball Fred B. Barber Laura M. Causey Myrtle Davidson Mary J. Foley Patricia A. Gagne Robert W. Johnson Sr. John D. Kessler Roy Lewis Mildred M. Macke Dick H. Mayall Robert J. Mitchell Harold N. Morris Walter Muehlhauser Anita R. Muskopf Irene E. Nagel Florence A. Niemeyer Robert W. Pelzl Augusta Schnur Edith E. Skaggs Rose H. Wiesler Charles N. Wildermuth Jason V. Workman Wanda M. Wsiaki Obituaries Augusta Schnur Mildred Macke Anita Muskopf Vernell Albert Roy Lewis Dr. John Kessler Laura Causey Robert Mitchell Dick Mayall Irene Nagel Fred Barber Walter Muehlhauser Funeral Notice Mary Foley Death Notice Arthur Ball Myrtle Davidson Patricia Gagne Albert Johnson Sr Harold Morris Florence Niemeyer Robert Pelzl Edith Skaggs Rose Wiesler Charles Wildermuth Jason Workman Wanda Wsiaki

I am considering taking a on-line genealogy course at a local junior college and wondered if anyone on the list has taken one. If so, do you feel it was worth your time (and money) to do so...did it help you in your research? Thanks, Pat