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    1. [ILSTCLAI] St. John's Orphan Asylum
    2. Does anyone have information or reference books on St. John's Orphan Asylum (Catholic) which I understand was on old Lebanon Road in St. Clair Co.? I am interested in the 1920's. Have Census info only. Thank you, Cynthia Vogel in CA

    07/19/2002 02:09:19
    1. Fw: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital
    2. Yulondia Nolen
    3. I live within 50 or so miles from Anna and can remember it being referred to as Anna State Hospital whenever I was young. I would say it has been closed since the mid to late 40's. Yulonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev Jim Bridges" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital From the Illinois Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois (1927), p. 492 (http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/Misc/Anna.htm) Southern Hospital for the Insane, located at Anna, Union County, founded by act of the Legislature in 1869. The original site comprised 290 acres and cost a little more than $22,0000, of which one-fourth was donated by citizens of the county. The construction of buildings was begun in 1869, but it was not until March 1875, that the north wing (the first completed) was ready for occupancy. Other portions were completed a year later. The Trustees purchased 160 additional acres in 1883. The first cost (up to September, 1876) was nearly $635,000. In 1881 one wing of the main building was destroyed by fire, and was subsequently rebuilt; the patients being, meanwhile, cared for in temporary wooden barracks. The total value of lands and buildings belong to the State, June 30, 1894, was estimated at $738,580, and, of property of all sorts, at $833, 700. The wooden barracks were later converted into a permanent ward, additions made to the main buildings, a detached building for the accommodations of 300 patients erected, numerous outbuildings put up and general improvements made. A second fire on the night of Jan. 3, 1895, destroyed a large part of the main building, inflicting a loss upon the State of $175,000.00. Provision was made for rebuilding by the Legislature of that year. The institution has capacity for about 750 patients.

    07/19/2002 02:04:56
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital
    2. Judy Van Dusen
    3. Jim...I live about 15 minutes from what was once known as the Northern Illinois Hospital for the Insane here in Elgin. I never knew there was a southern counterpart in Anna, but I know there was one in Jacksonville. Anyway, I have found in researching Elginites, that you did not have to be insane to be a patient there. You could have been ill or just indigent. Please remember that this was before the time of what we now call nursing homes. I once saw an article in our paper regarding the death of the oldest former living slave in Elgin who had lived at the hospital. He had no family and ended up as a patient and probably a ward of the state. I'm sure that the hospital in Anna has a cemetery as does the one here in Elgin. As for patient records, here in Elgin they are only available with a court order. I have several friends who work or have worked at the hospital. I have been able to locate burial locations for patients who died while at the hospital but no other information. The burial information may be unique to the hospital in Elgin. Hope this information is of some help. Judy Van Dusen Elgin, IL

    07/19/2002 11:36:55
    1. [ILSTCLAI] Re: SLGS Cemetery CD
    2. First of all these are for CATHOLIC CEMETERIES in and around St. Louis, not all of them are included. Secondly just because a cemetery is named a St. Something or Holy Something doesn't mean it is a Catholic Cemetery. Third, the St. Louis Diocese does not own all the Catholic Cemeteries in St. Louis, some are owned by the individual parishes. The CD is basically set up for Alphabetic Searching by Surname. The output columns are: SURNAME GIVEN NAME(s) CODE (Code for Cemetery name for example C01 is Calvary, ST is Sts Peter & Paul, R is Resurrection BORN (if this was found) DIED/BURIED DATE AGE This CD contains basically 3 types of cemetery records: 1. Records from the cemetery records, (these for the most part are the Archdiocese owned cemeteries) 2. Surveys done by volunteers walking and copying tombstone data, (it is estimated that only 60% of the burials in any given cemetery have tombstones. In other words if you rely on these surveys you may not find your person of interest, you will still need to go to the actual records. 3. A combination of the above two. SURNAME: 1. You can search by surname of the person. This can get a bit tricky. For example my great grandmother has a tombstone which has her surname as CASSIDY (her first husband), however when she died she was married a 2nd time and the office records have her listed as WALKER. 2. There are a massive number of surnames that are misspelled. I did a lookup for a person on an 6 grave lot which contained 10 burials. The name was rather unusual and of the 8 burials with the same surname only two were spelled the same, and they were wrong. 3. I did another lookup for a person, different cemetery, she claimed that the office told her that they had no record, she stated that she knew they had been buried there she had photos and had visited the graves. I finally found them she had the name spelled incorrectly. 4. This is a straight alphabetic search, not soundex. GIVEN NAMES 1. Same as above. 2. If you do a tombstone search you will frequently find "Nick" names used. My mother is buried in Walnut Hill, her tombstone reads FERN, the office record reads ESTELLE F. 3. If this is a tombstone survey the you may only find the person listed as MOTHER or FATHER CODE The individual cemeteries are coded. BORN Chances are when you see this the cemetery has been tombstone surveyed. DIED/BURIED Date of Death probably came off of a tombstone Buried Date, probably came off the office records/ AGE Age at time of death, could be from office record or tombstone. Over all it is fairly good, however you will still have to check with the office to get the information on what section and lot the persons are buried in. This is the most important bit of information and it is missing. I haven't had the chance to closely check the St. Louis Catholic Cemetery Site to see if it covers all the same cemeteries, but from my initial check I think you will need both the CD and the St. Louis Web Site to get the whole picture. Since the CD may have some cemeteries that the Web Site does not. One of the biggest advantages to the WEB site is that you can check nearby burials. Finally, you must remember that both the Site and the CD are nothing more than a TOOL, they are not perfect and they do, both of them contain errors. Bill Buchholz Some Data on cemeteries and funeral homes <http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/buchholz.htm> Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

    07/19/2002 05:58:10
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital
    2. Rev. Jim Bridges
    3. From the Illinois Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois (1927), p. 492 (http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/Misc/Anna.htm) Southern Hospital for the Insane, located at Anna, Union County, founded by act of the Legislature in 1869. The original site comprised 290 acres and cost a little more than $22,0000, of which one-fourth was donated by citizens of the county. The construction of buildings was begun in 1869, but it was not until March 1875, that the north wing (the first completed) was ready for occupancy. Other portions were completed a year later. The Trustees purchased 160 additional acres in 1883. The first cost (up to September, 1876) was nearly $635,000. In 1881 one wing of the main building was destroyed by fire, and was subsequently rebuilt; the patients being, meanwhile, cared for in temporary wooden barracks. The total value of lands and buildings belong to the State, June 30, 1894, was estimated at $738,580, and, of property of all sorts, at $833, 700. The wooden barracks were later converted into a permanent ward, additions made to the main buildings, a detached building for the accommodations of 300 patients erected, numerous outbuildings put up and general improvements made. A second fire on the night of Jan. 3, 1895, destroyed a large part of the main building, inflicting a loss upon the State of $175,000.00. Provision was made for rebuilding by the Legislature of that year. The institution has capacity for about 750 patients.

    07/19/2002 02:33:49
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital
    2. Clyde Gotcher
    3. Jim: The IL Soldiers and Sailors Home was located in Quincy, Adams Co., IL.. and handles veterans of the early wars including the Civil War.... Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev. Jim Bridges" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital > From the Illinois Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois (1927), p. 492 > (http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/Misc/Anna.htm) > > Southern Hospital for the Insane, located at Anna, Union County, founded by > act of the Legislature in 1869. The original site comprised 290 acres and > cost a little more than $22,0000, of which one-fourth was donated by > citizens of the county. The construction of buildings was begun in 1869, > but it was not until March 1875, that the north wing (the first completed) > was ready for occupancy. Other portions were completed a year later. The > Trustees purchased 160 additional acres in 1883. The first cost (up to > September, 1876) was nearly $635,000. In 1881 one wing of the main building > was destroyed by fire, and was subsequently rebuilt; the patients being, > meanwhile, cared for in temporary wooden barracks. The total value of lands > and buildings belong to the State, June 30, 1894, was estimated at $738,580, > and, of property of all sorts, at $833, 700. The wooden barracks were later > converted into a permanent ward, additions made to the main buildings, a > detached building for the accommodations of 300 patients erected, numerous > outbuildings put up and general improvements made. A second fire on the > night of Jan. 3, 1895, destroyed a large part of the main building, > inflicting a loss upon the State of $175,000.00. Provision was made for > rebuilding by the Legislature of that year. The institution has capacity > for about 750 patients. > > >

    07/19/2002 02:29:43
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital
    2. Rev. Jim Bridges
    3. > Does anyone have information on an "Anna State Hospital" and where it > was located? The brother of my Great Grandfather died there on August > 6, 1900. Was this an insane asylum or could it have been a TB > hospital? Does anyone know if there are records available for the > residents? My GG grandfather died at the hospital in Anna in 1897. While my great aunt in her genealogy notes about her grandfather referred to it as the "Illinois Sailors' and Soldiers' Home," the death record from the home states "Illinois Southern Hospital for the Insane." No address other than Anna, Illinois is listed on the record. I have often wondered if the home were known popularly by a variety of names, serving various functions for the elderly, poor and ill, but formally was a hospital for the insane. I do know that he was not in the hospital until the last years of his life, which would suggest he was there either for dementia or for reasons other than insanity. Jim Bridges

    07/19/2002 02:17:28
    1. [ILSTCLAI] IL St. Clair Co. STEWART-PENN Genealogy
    2. I am searching for the family of: My gggrandfather Charles H. STEWART b. ca 1818 MD, d. 1881 Stoddard CO. MO. Both of his parents were born in MD m. St. Clair Co. IL 1849 Mary Ann PENN b. IL 1829 father Phillip b. GA, mother Mary Ann Starr b. IL children that I know of: Lila STEWART b. MO 7/1897 (not mentioned in next census, died young?) James H. STEWART b. IL 8/1871 My ggrandfather Phillip H. STEWART b. IL 11/1850-58 m. 1888 Ollie DAVIS b. MO 1/1872 My grandfather Joseph Pollard STEWART b. 2 Oct. 1893 1914 m. Ruth MAHER b 23 Aug 1893 in St. Louis, MO. My father Joseph Grafton STEWART b. 3 Mar 1915 Any help would be greatly appreciated Best, Mary Stewart [email protected]

    07/18/2002 05:17:01
    1. [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital
    2. Julia Knudsen
    3. Does anyone have information on an "Anna State Hospital" and where it was located? The brother of my Great Grandfather died there on August 6, 1900. Was this an insane asylum or could it have been a TB hospital? Does anyone know if there are records available for the residents? Thank you in advance, Julia Knudsen Ukiah, Calif

    07/18/2002 04:37:07
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] Catholic cemeteries of StL update
    2. Marilyn Lane
    3. I am thinking about buying the CD, but I am wondering what information is shown once you find a name. Marilyn Lane Research MOELLINGER, MCATEER & HEBERER in St. Clair Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Catholic cemeteries of StL update > Just to let everyone know, the Catholic Cemeteries of the Archdiocese of > St. Louis website http://www.stlcathcem.com/ can now be searched by lot. > When you locate an individual, you can click on the lot number within their > information and all burials in that lot will be shown. > > > >From St. Louis List >

    07/18/2002 05:37:25
    1. [ILSTCLAI] Catholic cemeteries of StL update
    2. Just to let everyone know, the Catholic Cemeteries of the Archdiocese of St. Louis website http://www.stlcathcem.com/ can now be searched by lot. When you locate an individual, you can click on the lot number within their information and all burials in that lot will be shown. >From St. Louis List

    07/17/2002 08:41:01
    1. [ILSTCLAI] Need date of death
    2. I just received an obituary for one of my ancestors but it doesn't give the date of death. I can calculate from her birthdate but would like to have date. She doesn't appear in SSDI. Can anyone help? Josephine Hueckel Webb born on September 19, 1887, Caseyville, St. Clair County, Illinois died at age 57 which would be 1944 buried Caseyville Cemetery Many thanks. Conni in Ohio

    07/15/2002 12:43:57
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] Need date of death
    2. Rideout Family
    3. Check the Illinois Death Index, http://www2.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html I don't see a Josephine Webb but there is a Josephine Hueckel she died Feb 14, 1928 in Caseyville. Art ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:43 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Need date of death : I just received an obituary for one of my ancestors but it doesn't give the : date of death. I can calculate from her birthdate but would like to have : date. She doesn't appear in SSDI. Can anyone help? : : Josephine Hueckel Webb : born on September 19, 1887, Caseyville, St. Clair County, Illinois : died at age 57 which would be 1944 : buried Caseyville Cemetery : : Many thanks. : Conni in Ohio : :

    07/15/2002 10:49:00
    1. Re: [ILSTCLAI] East St. Louis Journal newspaper
    2. Diane Walsh
    3. The clipping file of the East St. Louis Journal 1930-1960s is located at the Lovejoy Library-Archives Room, So. Ill. Univ campus, Edwardsville, Ill. 62026 East St. Louis Journal obit index c1889-1979 at the Belleville ibrary --contact info and research policy: www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/bpl.htm (may have to cut and paste) Taken from p. 67, St. Clair County Research and Resources, A Genealogist's Guide available from SCCGS www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/stchome.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bergmire" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] East St. Louis Journal newspaper > I am trying to locate information in the East St. Louis Journal newspaper (later called the Metro-East Journal.) A few years ago I used the microfilm copies of the newspaper at Lovejoy Library at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville. At that time I was looking for an obituary of a family member and knew around the time period to begin reading. The task that I face now can not easily be located in time. > > In the early 1950s I toured the East St. Louis newspaper with a grade school class. I remember going into an area called the "morgue" which included a paper filing system which enabled journalists to locate information about people. What happens to the "morgue" when a newspaper goes out of business? Was that source of locating information destroyed? > > On a more general note, I would appreciate any tips that anybody can provide regarding reviewing large amounts of microfilm. Our plan for August is for three of us to hog the microfilm viewers and just quickly review as much information as possible. The source of information that we are looking for involves a picture which should provide some help in that we can skip many areas of non-illustrated text. > > Between now and our trip to the University Library in August, I plan to contact the Reference Librarian in that section of the library to see if I can find out any information in advance. I'll be happy to share what I learn with anybody else who may be searching the newspaper in the future. > > I'll appreciate any suggestions that you have. > > Michael Bergmire >

    07/15/2002 07:22:18
    1. [ILSTCLAI] Mississippi Valley Consistory
    2. Brad & Linda Collins
    3. I understand that the Mississippi Valley Consistory was located in East St. Louis. I found info online from the "class of 1912" but I can't find anything else. What exactly was the Mississippi Valley Consistory? I am for specific information on the class of April 1939. Linda

    07/14/2002 11:54:49
    1. [ILSTCLAI] East St. Louis Journal newspaper
    2. Michael Bergmire
    3. I am trying to locate information in the East St. Louis Journal newspaper (later called the Metro-East Journal.) A few years ago I used the microfilm copies of the newspaper at Lovejoy Library at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville. At that time I was looking for an obituary of a family member and knew around the time period to begin reading. The task that I face now can not easily be located in time. In the early 1950s I toured the East St. Louis newspaper with a grade school class. I remember going into an area called the "morgue" which included a paper filing system which enabled journalists to locate information about people. What happens to the "morgue" when a newspaper goes out of business? Was that source of locating information destroyed? On a more general note, I would appreciate any tips that anybody can provide regarding reviewing large amounts of microfilm. Our plan for August is for three of us to hog the microfilm viewers and just quickly review as much information as possible. The source of information that we are looking for involves a picture which should provide some help in that we can skip many areas of non-illustrated text. Between now and our trip to the University Library in August, I plan to contact the Reference Librarian in that section of the library to see if I can find out any information in advance. I'll be happy to share what I learn with anybody else who may be searching the newspaper in the future. I'll appreciate any suggestions that you have. Michael Bergmire

    07/14/2002 06:43:06
    1. [ILSTCLAI] BRACKET or BRACKETT
    2. Amelia
    3. Hello! I am looking for information on this PEER / BRACKETT / BOWEN family. Illinois Counties include St. Clair, Morgan, Pike, Adams, Jackson, and others. Sarah Ann BRACKET or BRACKETT b. Jul 1827 Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL; d. Dec 1906 Perry, Pike Co., IL. 1m. 27 Jan 1848 Scott Co., IL to Billings(ly) BOWEN/BOWER (b. OH; d. bef 1859). Billingsly Bowen was previously married to Sarah HULL on 17 Mar 1836 in Ross Co., OH. 2m. 8 Mar 1859 Pike Co., IL to John PEER (b. abt 28 Jun 1804 VA or OH?; d. 31 Dec 1867 Perry, Pike Co., IL; bur. Wilson-McCord Cemetery, Perry, Pike Co., IL). John Peer was previously married to Eliza BISHOP on 14 Dec 1825 in Allegany, MD. Eliza d. 20 Aug 1858; bur. Fall Creek Chapel Cemetery, Adams Co., IL. children of Sarah Ann BRACKETT BOWEN PEER: 1. John BOWEN b. IL (still living in Illinois in 1940). 2. Jesse BOWEN b. c1854 IL. 3. Mary BOWEN b. c1856 IL; m. ____ MAYS. Listed in 1940 as still living in Illinois. One place of residence was listed as Springfield, Sangamon Co., IL. 4. William Henry PEER b. 5 Oct 1861 Payson, Adams Co., IL. (see below) 5. Ella PEER b. c1865 IL (some records say b. 1856??); m. ____ CRAWFORD. 6. Ida May PEER b. 1865/7 Adams Co., IL; (never married); d. 31 Jul 1945 Meridian, Ada Co., ID. 7. Esther Ann PEER b. abt Feb 1868 IL; d. 2 Sep 1868; bur. Wilson-McCord Cemetery, Perry, Pike Co., IL. Sarah was to have grown up in Scotland, Morgan Co., IL. After marrying Billings BOWEN in Scott Co., IL, they lived near Hull, Pike Co., IL. After his death, she married John PEER (1859) and moved to Adams Co. They were to have lived there until 8 Feb 1867, moving to Perry, Pike Co., IL. Some of the children remained in IL, some moved to Kansas and Idaho. Sarah is listed on the 1880 Census as a widow, living in Pike Co., IL, with her children Jesse, Ella, Ida, and Mary. The above William Henry PEER is my g-g-grandpa. He married Mary Ann POWSON on 9 Nov 1882 in Jackson Co., IL. They moved to Clay Center & Fort Riley, KS (1885); Steamboat Springs, CO (1888); and Meridian/Hunter, ID (1896). Thank you for any help you may be able to offer! -- Amelia Reimer, Neah Bay, WA

    07/14/2002 02:32:02
    1. [ILSTCLAI] St. Paul's Societies
    2. john hardester
    3. Dear List: can anyone elaborate on this organization. I have a relative that died in St. clair county in 1917 that belonged to this organization. Thanks, John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

    07/14/2002 02:05:53
    1. [ILSTCLAI] 9th Illinois Regiment company B
    2. john hardester
    3. Dear List: I am looking for some recomendations as for the best place to find out information on this troop in the Civil War. I have a relative that served in this regiment. Thanks, John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

    07/14/2002 02:03:13
    1. [ILSTCLAI] 1860 Census look-up
    2. john hardester
    3. Dear List: Can someone look a couple of my relatives up on the 1860 Census. 1. Michael Haas age roughly between 17-19. 2. Maria or Elizabeth Christian age roughly between 16 and 17. May be living in the house of Jacob Christian (Father). Thanks, John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

    07/14/2002 01:59:38