And if I could learn to spell-- it's CentERville Station not Centreville. That "er" or "re" keeps throwing me. Sonia

SORRY! I keep hitting the wrong reply button and sent this straight to Denise-- sorry about that. In a message dated 7/25/2002 11:01:48 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > I live just south of Belleville, and just FYI - Centreville is NOT > Millstadt, > and they would be offended if you said that. Centreville is just southeast > > of East Saint Louis, I have been told in the 40s and 50s it was a nice > area, > it is not now. I've never heard of Centreville Station. > Denise Thank you, Denise, for this information. But I am really confused then, as all of my records have both names listed together. Does that mean that Millstadt is in Centreville Twp then? The 1808 map I have of Illinois shows a Centreville Sta. just south east of St. Louis. It's also on the 1875 Illinois map found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/illinois/il1875/STCLAIR.JPG in the Cahokia (?) Twp. Now that I am looking at the above map in detail, I guess that Centreville Twp is what is meant when the records I've been sent have listed Millstadt and Centreville together. But why would they be offended about the mix up? Are there hard feelings between the towns? For the the person looking for Centreville Twp, go to the url listed above and you will find it in green southeast of St. Louis. Thanx for the reason to reconfirm my information! I like to have this stuff as clear as possible! :0) Sincerely, Sonia

I live just south of Belleville, and just FYI - Centreville is NOT Millstadt, and they would be offended if you said that. Centreville is just southeast of East Saint Louis, I have been told in the 40s and 50s it was a nice area, it is not now. I've never heard of Centreville Station. Denise In a message dated 07/25/2002 10:48:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi, I am new to researching in this county, but my family comes from > Centreville also known as Milstadt. It is down around Belleville. There's > > also a Centreville Station, I believe.

In a message dated 7/25/2002 9:44:00 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I pulled up an address on MapQuest - 4206 Bond Ave., and it appears that > this address could be in Centreville Twsp. When looking on Ancestry.com, > 1930 census for St. Clair Co., I do not find Centreville Twsp. listed, or > maybe I am not reading the map correctly. Could SKS please help?? > > Thanks and happy hunting. > > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy > Buffalo Grove, IL > Searching McDaniel in St. Clair Co. > Hi, I am new to researching in this county, but my family comes from Centreville also known as Milstadt. It is down around Belleville. There's also a Centreville Station, I believe. I don't know if it is a separate township though. Not sure if I've been much help. Sonia Searching: Hennecke, Weber, Preusser, Frankenbach

There is a Centerville Station in St. Clair County. Go to this site http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form enter Centerville Station, select the state of Illinois, then click on SEND QUERY and you will find the location which is listed below. Good hunting Art Fallbrook, CA Feature Name: Centerville Station Feature Type: populated place Elevation: 414 State: Illinois County: St. Clair USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: French Village 383326N 0900633W ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] ED Help!! : In a message dated 7/25/2002 9:44:00 AM Mountain Daylight Time, : [email protected] writes: : : : > I pulled up an address on MapQuest - 4206 Bond Ave., and it appears that : > this address could be in Centreville Twsp. When looking on Ancestry.com, : > 1930 census for St. Clair Co., I do not find Centreville Twsp. listed, or : > maybe I am not reading the map correctly. Could SKS please help?? : > : > Thanks and happy hunting. : > : > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy : > Buffalo Grove, IL : > Searching McDaniel in St. Clair Co. : > : : Hi, I am new to researching in this county, but my family comes from : Centreville also known as Milstadt. It is down around Belleville. There's : also a Centreville Station, I believe. I don't know if it is a separate : township though. Not sure if I've been much help. : : Sonia : Searching: Hennecke, Weber, Preusser, Frankenbach : :

Thanks to all who hopefully answered my question. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] ED Help!! > In a message dated 7/25/2002 9:44:00 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > I pulled up an address on MapQuest - 4206 Bond Ave., and it appears that > > this address could be in Centreville Twsp. When looking on Ancestry.com, > > 1930 census for St. Clair Co., I do not find Centreville Twsp. listed, or > > maybe I am not reading the map correctly. Could SKS please help?? > > > > Thanks and happy hunting. > > > > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy > > Buffalo Grove, IL > > Searching McDaniel in St. Clair Co. > > > > Hi, I am new to researching in this county, but my family comes from > Centreville also known as Milstadt. It is down around Belleville. There's > also a Centreville Station, I believe. I don't know if it is a separate > township though. Not sure if I've been much help. > > Sonia > Searching: Hennecke, Weber, Preusser, Frankenbach > >

Hi List, I pulled up an address on MapQuest - 4206 Bond Ave., and it appears that this address could be in Centreville Twsp. When looking on Ancestry.com, 1930 census for St. Clair Co., I do not find Centreville Twsp. listed, or maybe I am not reading the map correctly. Could SKS please help?? Thanks and happy hunting. Joyce McDaniel Hennessy Buffalo Grove, IL Searching McDaniel in St. Clair Co.

I am looking for any information on the Rachas family... about the 1930's .... Walter August Rachas b.abt. 1886 - d.? or Anna Marie (Starinski I have found many spellings on this name... but this seems to be the one That is right) Rachas b. 20 Aug. 1886 Lithuania - d. 19 July, 1977 St. Louis, ILL. They had 7 children... One being my father-in-law ..... I am having a huge problem find anything on this family.... and I have found nothing on Anna's family... I would love to hear from anyone ... that might have any help.. Thank you so very much for taking the time to read my message .. and for any help you all might be able to offer... Bye for now... Beth (Knappenberger) Rachas :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: ILSTCLAI-D Digest V02 #134

Cynthia Vogel wrote: Does anyone have information or reference books on St. John's Orphan Asylum (Catholic) which I understand was on old Lebanon Road in St. Clair Co.? I am interested in the 1920's. Have Census info only. Thank you, Cynthia Vogel in CA ______________________________ Cynthia, Geographically, St. John's is still there. Today it's a complex for retired priests. It's on Lebanon Avenue. I believe ?east? of Hartman Lane. I don't know about any records or books. Larry Wernle

Millstadt is a German Town about 10 miles up the hill from Centerville Carol

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F29A994C0F5E5B376CCACC66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was born and raised in E.ST.Louis, Centerville and Cahokia. It was a great place to grow up. All this area was considered E.ST.Louis at one time. It has relly changed over the years. Carol --------------F29A994C0F5E5B376CCACC66 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.39]) by emu (EarthLink SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 17xM1N4bk3NZFnx0 Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g6PH1BEJ009102; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:01:11 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:01:11 -0600 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Jul 25 11:01:10 2002 From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:01:07 EDT Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] ED Help!! Old-To: [email protected], [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10516 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1033 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 I live just south of Belleville, and just FYI - Centreville is NOT Millstadt, and they would be offended if you said that. Centreville is just southeast of East Saint Louis, I have been told in the 40s and 50s it was a nice area, it is not now. I've never heard of Centreville Station. Denise In a message dated 07/25/2002 10:48:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi, I am new to researching in this county, but my family comes from > Centreville also known as Milstadt. It is down around Belleville. There's > > also a Centreville Station, I believe. --------------F29A994C0F5E5B376CCACC66--

The CD that contains the St. Louis Catholic Burials & sold by the St. Louis Genealogy Society works great but I have yet to get any results back from searching the web site. First it takes FOREVER to search and then nothing comes back even though I know that a surname is found buried in a particular cemetery. I hope other searchers have better luck! Maybe the new server that the Archdiocese is getting will help. Bob Buecher My Belleville families: Christoph ACKER (1807-1876); Philip ACKER (1841-1914); JACOBI family; Charles SCHUCHMANN (1809-1896); Henry WEISSENBORN (1815-1878); Johann Martin WEISSENBORN (1791-1859); Christian WEISSENBORN (1863-1937) My Millstadt (area) families: BALTZ family; Heinrich BUECHER (1820-1893); George HAMMEL (1802-1863); Johann Philipp LEPERE (ca. 1783-1872); George METZGER (1827-1906); Johann Wilhelm MUELLER (1776-1840); Peter STRAUSS (1822-1897); Peter VOGT (1800-1880); Anthony WAGNER (1784-1851); Johann Nicolaus WAGNER (1795-1838); Michael WAGNER (1820-1869); Johann Ludwig WETTEROTH (1777-1842)

On 20 Jul 2002 at 9:56, Joyce Hennessy wrote: > Good Saturday morning List! > > Would any of you kind souls know the district number/ED for 4206 Bond > Ave, East St. Louis for the 1930 census? I do not have an east or > west. Thank you very much and happy hunting. > > Joyce > Buffalo Grove, IL > > Go to http://1930census.archives.gov/beginSearch.asp You can find a lot of great info re 1930 census and lookup an ED by street name in most cities.

Since they lived in St. Clair County, chances are high he naturalized there as well. Could be any court, but probably Circuit or County. Here is an explanation of St. Clair courts as it applies to the naturalization process. http://www.compu-type.net/rengen/stclair/natl.htm Diane From: "Greg and Nancy Schulte" <[email protected]>

Re: 1930 census EDs All EDs for all states are on the NARA web site: http://1930census.archives.gov

Good Saturday morning List! Would any of you kind souls know the district number/ED for 4206 Bond Ave, East St. Louis for the 1930 census? I do not have an east or west. Thank you very much and happy hunting. Joyce Buffalo Grove, IL

Julia ... A couple of years ago, I requested records for my g-grandmother and, although I couldn't get copies of the records for one reason or another, I did receive a nice letter answering some of the questions I had, such as family information, marital status, etc. The hospital is no longer called Anna State Hospital and, as of a couple years ago, it was called: Clyde L. Choate Mental Health Center 1000 Main Street Anna, IL 62906 Good luck! Steve Fort Meade, FL --- Julia Knudsen <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone have information on an "Anna State > Hospital" and where it > was located? The brother of my Great Grandfather > died there on August > 6, 1900. Was this an insane asylum or could it have > been a TB > hospital? Does anyone know if there are records > available for the > residents? > > Thank you in advance, Julia Knudsen > Ukiah, Calif > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

The Hospital in Anna is operating and is named: Choate Mental Health and Developmental Center Department of mental Health and Developmental Disabilities 1000 North Main St. Anna,IL 62906 Phone-618-835-5161 Ext 640 1-800-383-1161 They have a cemetery on the grounds where some of the early patients are buried,but all of the stones have been removed.The staff is very helpful. Gerald R. DeHart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yulondia Nolen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Fw: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital > I live within 50 or so miles from Anna and can remember it being > referred to as Anna State Hospital whenever I was young. I would say it > has been closed since the mid to late 40's. > Yulonda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rev Jim Bridges" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 7:33 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] Anna State Hospital > > > >From the Illinois Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois (1927), p. 492 > (http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/Misc/Anna.htm) > > Southern Hospital for the Insane, located at Anna, Union County, founded > by > act of the Legislature in 1869. The original site comprised 290 acres > and > cost a little more than $22,0000, of which one-fourth was donated by > citizens of the county. The construction of buildings was begun in > 1869, > but it was not until March 1875, that the north wing (the first > completed) > was ready for occupancy. Other portions were completed a year later. > The > Trustees purchased 160 additional acres in 1883. The first cost (up to > September, 1876) was nearly $635,000. In 1881 one wing of the main > building > was destroyed by fire, and was subsequently rebuilt; the patients being, > meanwhile, cared for in temporary wooden barracks. The total value of > lands > and buildings belong to the State, June 30, 1894, was estimated at > $738,580, > and, of property of all sorts, at $833, 700. The wooden barracks were > later > converted into a permanent ward, additions made to the main buildings, a > detached building for the accommodations of 300 patients erected, > numerous > outbuildings put up and general improvements made. A second fire on the > night of Jan. 3, 1895, destroyed a large part of the main building, > inflicting a loss upon the State of $175,000.00. Provision was made for > rebuilding by the Legislature of that year. The institution has > capacity > for about 750 patients. > > > > >

Dear List Colleagues - My father-in-law remembers that his mother -- Agnes Marion Hoff, b. October 2, 1894, in Fayetteville -- went to a parochial school in or near Fayetteville before the family moved to Kansas in 1903. Lessons were taught half a day in English and half a day in German. Does anyone know the name of the school? Does it still exist? Would it have any records? Many thanks, Greg Schulte, Great Falls, Virginia

Dear List Colleagues: On April 27, I wrote to the Illinois State Archives in Springfield to request that they look for the naturalization papers for my wife's gggrandfather: Bernard Heinrich Hoff born June 1, 1828 in Baccum, Germany immigrated in 1853 with wife Maria Anna Dieker settled in Fayetteville Township, St. Clair county occupation: farmer I have since learned from a Hoff family history that he was naturalized on October 19, 1874. I've yet to receive a response from the Archives. Did I write to the wrong place? Should I be more patient? Thanks, Greg Schulte, Great Falls, Virginia