Hi All! I see in the latest newsletter (St. Clair Gen. Soc.) that the library has a new book "Virginia Milita in the War of 1812" (2 Vols.). Could someone please do a look-up for me in those books? I am looking for information on my G-Grandfather Daniel Schupp/Shupe/Shoop, who served in the war of 1812. Thanks in advance for your help. Dutch, Princeton, IN, USA - (38.35n Latitude, -87.50w Longitude) - 3rd rock - Sol - Virgo Cluster - Milky Way Galaxy - God's Great Universe Researching: SCHUPP,SCHULER,KRIEG,RAPP,KELLER,SWENSEN,McGILLEM (Genealogy) Web Page: Dutch's Place, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutchsplace/ Amateur Radio K9FPA

Thanks to everyone who attempted a help on the uncle-cousin problem. At this point it is not yet solved, but I did receive several pointers which may eventually resolve the issue. Jim Bridges

My major brick wall is my g g grandmother Martha Adeline McFARLAND b. 17 Jan 1852 Belleville, St. Clair Co, IL d. 12 Jan 1933 Monroe Co, IL m. Nathan S. DURFEE on 21 Mar 1869 Monroe Co, IL. No additional info is known from their marriage documents. On Martha's death certificate the informant was her son-in-law John ALLEN, and he wrote for her father "don't know, b. don't know" and for her mother "--- CHURCH[or CHINCH?], b. VA". Martha's obituary provided no info on her parents. >From the book "The Descendants of Thomas Durfee of Portsmouth, R.I." by William R. Reed, her father was George McFARLAND and mother was Mrs. Cynthia McFARLAND. A George McFARLAND married a Senda FRANKLIN on 20 Dec 1849 St. Clair Co, IL. The 1850 Belleville, St. Clair Co, IL census lists: McFARLAND, George 50 M Carpenter b. TN Syntha A. 43 F b. VA FRANKLIN, Jane 16 F b. IL Silas 11 M b. IL Isaac 8 M b. IL So far, I have been unable to locate George or Senda/Syntha A. McFARLAND on any other census, but found whom I believe to be my Martha on the 1860 Red Bud, Monroe Co, IL census: TAILOR, Alozo[Aloso?] 43 M b. MA Lucind 46 F b. TN FRANKLIN, Silas 21 M b. IL Jos 17 M b. IL McFARLAND, Martha 9 F b. IL Martha is listed with her husband Nathan on the 1880 Monroe Co, IL census which lists her father b. VA, mother b. KY. On the 1900 Monroe Co, IL census, her father is listed as b. IL, mother b. IL. On the 1920 St. Clair Co, IL census her father is listed as b. KY, mother b. KY. I'm not sure how, or if, this fits in, but found this entry on the 1860 Prairie du Rocher P. O., Monroe Co, IL census: CHURCH, Lewis 28 M Farmer b. IL Virginie 28 F b. VA Ausilla 5 F b. IL William 3 M b. IL FRANKLIN, Silas 21 M Laborer b. IL Possibly two similar Silas FRANKLIN's, or appears same Silas FRANKLIN was in Red Bud in the same household as Martha on 22 Aug and in the household of Lewis CHURCH on 25 Aug, 1860. Is Lewis CHURCH possibly related to Martha's possible mother "---- CHURCH[CHINCH?]"? Does anyone connect to any of these families? Any additional info will be greatly appreciated. Jan Heiskell

Is there anyone on this list who knows anything about German as it was spoken and written about 200 years ago? I have a letter written in German in 1834 to relatives in Germany which refers to individuals as cousins. However, these individuals were not his cousins but were instead his aunt and uncle. Recently, I have just come across a German marriage certificate from 1819 which refers to two individuals who I think are cousins by marriage as uncles of the bride. We do not have proof of the actual relationships, but age wise, it would not seem possible to have the individuals be her uncles. My question: Is it possible that these terms, "cousin" and "uncle", were used interchangeably, or even oppositely, to what they mean today? Any insight would be appreciated. Jim Bridges

Hi List, Hope that some kind soul will be able to help me find the maiden name iof my Great Uncle William Lichtenfeld's wife BERTHA?? They lived at 729 N. 8th St. and in the city directory for East S. Louis 1928 it states they lived at 827 a St.Clair Ave. and that William worked at the National Stock Yards as a laborer. He died in the Alton State Hospital Aug. 23, 1953, and on his death cerrt. it says he was widowed. He is buried in Centralia, IL in lmwood Cemetery but BERTHA ? is not buried wirh him. On the 1920 census they were in Centralia. He was 36 years old and Bertha was 26. I have been unable to find a marriage cert. or a death cert for Bertha. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Helen King

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Listmates, Thanks to the several people who volunteered! No more needed for the this query checking project. Many, many thanks. Diane [email protected]

John Milton Forquer married Mary Jane Valte on June 19, 1853 in Belleville, IL. Does anybody know who her parents were. Thanks. Fleta Forquer [email protected]

Thanks to all who replied to my query. I will follow up on the leads and report if I discover anything that may be helpful to others. Carol Hansen

Listmates, Five volunteers are still needed to help check valid email addresses on the Queries pages. Anybody else available? Original explanation below Diane [email protected] Listmates, I would like to ask 7 of the 290+ people on the St Clair MailList to help me with a little maintainence. Job: 1. Volunteer to contact the submitters of Queries hosted on the St. Clair pages to see if the email addresses still work. Each volunteer takes one year (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001). These Query pages are found here http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilstclai/queries.htm 2. If no answer, try to re-contact the submitter about a week or two later. 2. Submit any Broken email addresses or non-responses to me so the queries may be REMOVED from the pages. (If the submitter gave sufficient info (like a home address) that would enable contact, then we will keep the query on the site. Suggested deadlines: Sign up by Aug 22 2002 to be assigned a year. Begin checking addresses anytime after that, but FINISH by the end of September 2002. To volunteer, click the Reply Button (or similar) on your toolbar or use a subject title similar to that shown above so I know what it is you want to volunteer for :) Thanks, and here's hoping a few of you can make the time to help. Diane [email protected]

Might that be St. Clair Memorial Park, Highway 162, Fairview Heights ? Best Art ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Re. [ILSTCLAIR] - St. Clair Cemetery : Hi, : : I recently discovered that my great uncle was buried in St. Clair Cemetery on : Jan 7, 1911. Does anyone have any info on this cemetery? Is it still there? : Thanks for your help. : : Carol Hansen : : Searching: MAYERHOFER, MAIERHOFER, HATZL, HATZEL : :

Hi, I recently discovered that my great uncle was buried in St. Clair Cemetery on Jan 7, 1911. Does anyone have any info on this cemetery? Is it still there? Thanks for your help. Carol Hansen Searching: MAYERHOFER, MAIERHOFER, HATZL, HATZEL

Listmates, I would like to ask 7 of the 290+ people on the St Clair MailList to help me with a little maintainence. Job: 1. Volunteer to contact the submitters of Queries hosted on the St. Clair pages to see if the email addresses still work. Each volunteer takes one year (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001). These Query pages are found here http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilstclai/queries.htm 2. If no answer, try to re-contact the submitter about a week or two later. 2. Submit any Broken email addresses or non-responses to me so the queries may be REMOVED from the pages. (If the submitter gave sufficient info (like a home address) that would enable contact, then we will keep the query on the site. Suggested deadlines: Sign up by Aug 22 2002 to be assigned a year. Begin checking addresses anytime after that, but FINISH by the end of September 2002. To volunteer, click the email link below and kindly use a subject title similar to that shown above so I know what it is you want to volunteer for :) Thanks, and here's hoping a few of you can make the time to help. Diane [email protected]

Dear Listmates The St Clair US Gen Web Project page titled Early Family Names... ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilstclai/surname.htm ) provides links to web pages on other sites which have been created by those with St Clair ancestors. The following family page links no longer work and I'm unable to contact the original submitters. ALTSCHUH, BENDER, BUNSEN, CHANCE, HEMPHILL, LOEW, LUCASH, RICHMAN If a new web site address is available, I will change the link upon notice from you. Broken Links will be REMOVED from the page at the end of August 2002. Thanks for your help! Diane [email protected]

Just mentioning to this list that I'm planning on traveling sometime in 2003 (probably September or early October; possibly June) to the Frankfurt area, with some side travel to the black forest and the area east of Frankfurt (possibly taking in Munich & Salzburg as well). Since many of you also have ancestry from that region, I invite someone interested in this itinerary to contact me if wishing to know more. I'll be looking for travel companion(s) as this is not my husband's cup of tea [he'll be with his golf buddies traveling to Scotland!]. My address is: [email protected] Marsha St. Louis

I received an e-mail from someone today that suggested that I look up and do research for my family BLOCKYOU. I would like to Thank them for the info. I would like to remined them that the web site they are on or for people to share an Help eadh other on their genaolgy walls. I know I try to help if I have info that willl help someone. The help I was askinig for was to someone who Offered to do lookups. Thank you for All your help Pat (BLOCKYOU) Swift I hope you read this

Looking for info on Heinrich Hennecke. From the Trinity Lutheran Church records I recieved Heinrich died Oct. 8, 1851 (Millstadt). It appears he had a daughter before he married Maria. But that is all I have found on him. His widow Maria Elizabetha married Johann Friedrich Gerhard Buccholz, but I don't know her maiden name. She was born "Mar 30, 1817 in Altweilnau Herzogthum, Nassau, Amt. Usingen" and died Jan 21, 1870. There appear to be quite a few Hennecke in this area, and I am trying to figure out how they connect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanx! Sonia Researching: HENNECKE, WEBER, PREUSSER, FRANKENBACH

Could someone lookup this obituary and email me what it says? I don't know the newspapers in Belleville and have no idea when it could have been in the paper. I also don't have a DAY , But , I do have the Month & Year. Hopefully this will be enough to find it. Thank You for any help. Carol Name: NELLIE STUFFLEBEAN Death Date: FEBUARY 1985 (additional info: She was born December 7, 1922 )

I forgot to say that the Twins of Mary Stufflebean were Adams, not Stufflebean. Carol

Carol& List, This is the first time I've seen a Stufflebean query. There was a Mary Stufflebaen on Brady Ave. in E.ST.Louis in the fifty's. She had twin sons Robert and Richard. They would be abt. 58,59 now. I can't remember want Mr. Stufflebean's given name was. This was Mary's 2nd marriage. Would be interested in this family. Carol Brown Oklahoma