Coincidentally the soon to be mailed SCCGS Quarterly vol. 25 no. 3, 2002 reprints the 1918 street name changes that occured in Belleville (effective per ordinance 1162). . . .Streets West of Illinois Street. . .changed from Richard Street to Twenty-first Street. . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rideout Family" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] 400 Richard St. Belleville. > My aunt and her infant daughter died days apart in the 1918 flu epidemic. Her death record gives her address as 400 Richard St. Belleville. Anyone know where this street was located? > > Thanks, > > Rosie Schaefer Rideout > Fallbrook, CA > >

Diane, thank you and I will look forward to receiving that issue. Best Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Walsh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] 400 Richard St. Belleville. > Coincidentally the soon to be mailed SCCGS Quarterly vol. 25 no. 3, 2002 > reprints the 1918 street name changes that occured in Belleville (effective > per ordinance 1162). > > . . .Streets West of Illinois Street. . .changed from Richard Street to > Twenty-first Street. . . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rideout Family" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:03 PM > Subject: [ILSTCLAI] 400 Richard St. Belleville. > > > > My aunt and her infant daughter died days apart in the 1918 flu epidemic. > Her death record gives her address as 400 Richard St. Belleville. Anyone > know where this street was located? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rosie Schaefer Rideout > > Fallbrook, CA > > > > > > >

My aunt and her infant daughter died days apart in the 1918 flu epidemic. Her death record gives her address as 400 Richard St. Belleville. Anyone know where this street was located? Thanks, Rosie Schaefer Rideout Fallbrook, CA

In a message dated 08/28/2002 9:30:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > He died on > Dec 6, 1950 in E.St,Louis, Ill Did you call or write the county courthouse for a death certificate? Checked online and it says, Alfred Buxton, male, white, 46 years, certificate no. 0052567 death date 1950-12-04 Saint Clair. It will have the names of his parents on it, and frequently the funeral home and cemetary. Also the Belleville Public Library has an obituary index, and most of their newspapers on microfilm, so you may be able to get a copy of his obituary from them. That may say where he worked. Also he should be on the 1920 Census, however the only Buxton I could find for Saint Clair County was a household headed by Archie Allyn that included his married sister Geneva Buxton in East Saint Louis. If you do not have addresses for the County Courthouse or the Library, let me know and I will get them for you. Denise

Does the State of Illinois maintain a census for 1890?

I am trying desperately to find out some information on my father. I know his name was Afred Buxton born aug 8, 1904 in Belleville, Ill. He died on Dec 6, 1950 in E.St,Louis, Ill but aside from finding out that he died I can't find anything! I have checked marriage license and still no data. If you can help I would certainly appreciate it. I am getting disillusioned with this search, you see he died six months after I was born and I never knew him. thanks sandi scott [email protected]

Thanks, Sonny! This is a great site! Not only did I find my gg-grandfather, but it also provided a history of his unit. Steve Fort Meade, FL --- Sonny Eardley <[email protected]> wrote: > I found a good Civil War Site to share . > www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/index.html It is from the > parks service . > > Sonny > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

I have Catherine Morgan m. Elias Casterline 13 Jan 1838 St Clair Co (I have copy of Approval of Marriage Certificate by Rebecca Casterline Morgan (signed with an X). Catherine Morgan was the dtr of Nathan Morgan and Rebecca Casterline. She was listed in the Alton Telegraph issue #46 at the February Court, Madison Co IL 1837 apply to the partition of the late Mathew (S/B Nathan) Morgan signed Rebecca Morgan, widow, ch Catherine Morgan, Nathan Morgan II, Mary Ann Morgan, Peter Morgan. Nathan Morgan was my great great grandfather.. Would like to exchange info. Martha Fletcher Melander [email protected]

My ancestors (SARLOUIS) migrated from Johnstown,PA to St. Clair county. I was wondering if there were any others in St.Clair county that also moved west from Johnstown. My main interest right now would be any articles that would have appeared in the newspapers shortly after the Johnstown flood of 1889. Would any one know this off hand or could some one look at the newspapers of the time for me? Cheryl Jordan Clinton County, Ohio

Cindy Livesay, Hi! I know this is a loooong shot but about your Morgan family in St. Clair Co., IL You have an Elizabeth Morgan (age 16) who marrys Nick Flach (who is German and owns a saloon ?in Belleville) about 1885. Do you know Elizabeth Morgan's parents yet? especially her father? The reason I ask, I am trying to locate any information about Catharine Morgan m. Elias Casterline 14 Jan 1838 Saint Clair County, IL lic# 286. I'm wondering if Catharine Morgan might be related to the father of your Elizabeth Morgan? Any clues might help! Thanks for posting your information. Beth Peck Cooper

A tidbit from the newspaper, Belleville (Illinois) Weekly Advocate, 18 Sep 1891, p. 1 The great fire which occurred at Schifferstadt, Germany, about two weeks ago, and through which many lives were lost, has caused considerable anxiety to a number of residents of this city who came from the illfated city and who still have relatives residing there. They have been anxiously awaiting news from their relatives ever since the date of the fire. Among those residing in this city who came fro Schifferstadt, are Jacob Renner, Sr., Michael Kessler, Frank and Jacob Lill, Michael Isselhardt, Franz Lang, George Kraus, George Landknecht, Mrs. Anna Schuck, Max Klapp, Louis Hamburger, Karl Magin, Franz Meyer and Michael Berkel.

The Illinois State Historical Library has hundreds of photographs of Illinois Civil War servicemen and regiments. No index online, but they will answer inquiries by phone or mail and a copy order can be placed afterwards. http://www.state.il.us/hpa/lib/Audiovis.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rideout Family" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTCLAI] Civil War Site > Here is another good Civil War site. If you are lucky you just might find a > picture of grandfather, I did, I searched on Rideout and found a picture > taken about 1861 of my great-grandfather William H H Rideout. > > http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html > > Good luck, Art > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sonny Eardley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:50 AM > Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Civil War Site > > > > I found a good Civil War Site to share . www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/index.html > It is from the parks service . > > > > Sonny > > > > > >

Art That is a great site but yes you were very lucky . I tried all combs and found nothing . But worth a try . Sonny

I found a good Civil War Site to share . www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/index.html It is from the parks service . Sonny

Here is another good Civil War site. If you are lucky you just might find a picture of grandfather, I did, I searched on Rideout and found a picture taken about 1861 of my great-grandfather William H H Rideout. http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html Good luck, Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonny Eardley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] Civil War Site > I found a good Civil War Site to share . www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/index.html It is from the parks service . > > Sonny > >

Yes, the ISA is the only one online with the Illinois deaths originally reported to the Illinois Dept of Health 1916 - c1950 There may be errors in the index - or any index where we rely on information typed into a database/web page/publication. Like you, I would also send the St. Clair County clerk's office a copy of the page and ask them to kindly double check for the certificate and mention you already paid the fee whenever;[ providing the database said the certificate was filed in St Clair. ] I would also ask that if the record is not found because the person did not die in St. Clair and the certificate is filed elsewhere, that they contact the Ill Dept of Health to get the record corrected. I would presume this would happen if the village was in a neighboring county and really filed there. Then, once confirmed, I would also contact the ISA so that they could correct the information online --they would need a copy of the certificate to do so. Diane

Greetings list, I just had a question, if anyone is familiar with the County Clerk's office and how their response is through the mail to requests for death certificates? I recently looked up on the Illinois Death Index and found who I believed was my ggg-grandmother listed. Because the Illinois State Archives is so swamped with requests, I decided to go directly to St. Clair County with my request. Even though I gave them the exact information from the index, they state that it is not in their county. I suppose the index could be incorrect, though I know they lived in St. Clair Co., so I doubt that. Is the Illinois State Archives now the only place with the records that are posted online? I have printed out the page from the website and have returned it with another request, but I was hoping for a little input. Thanks. KellyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

> "My question: Is it possible that these terms, "cousin" and "uncle", > were used interchangeably, or even oppositely, to what they mean today?" > > I'd be interested in the answers/opinions re your original question > above. The consensus has been that the terms were not used interchangeably. Cousin was used somewhat more loosely than it is today, and it could include those we now consider our uncles and aunts. The term for uncle that was under question is "oheim" - which is not used that often. It means uncle, mother's brother, but in some cases, it can also refer to grandfather. Jim Bridges

"My question: Is it possible that these terms, "cousin" and "uncle", were used interchangeably, or even oppositely, to what they mean today?" I'd be interested in the answers/opinions re your original question above. Carol Dreier ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev. Jim Bridges" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: [ILSTCLAI] German Terms | Thanks to everyone who attempted a help on the uncle-cousin problem. At this point it is not yet solved, but I did receive several pointers which may eventually resolve the issue. | | Jim Bridges | | ______________________________

Jim, Just a thought and I am not conversant with languages. But, back in the era you are working I believe you may bump into some of the idiosyncrasies of "High" and "Low" German. My grandparents one born in Belleville in the 1880's and the other born in 1890 in Western Missouri both spoke Low German or a combination of whatever when they didn't want their children to hear the conversation. One of my uncles studied German in High School and after bouncing his head against the wall for a couple of years, he still couldn't understand them. Sorta like the 50 years ago when it was difficult for some of us Yankees to understand the Floridians until we overpowered the population. Bill Some Data on cemeteries and funeral homes <http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/buchholz.htm> Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.