In a message dated 9/16/2000 11:58:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jackson@cybersouth.com writes: << Could someone PLEASE tell me how to find out when and where an ancestor entered this country (from Canada), and when they were naturalized? >>>> Hi, Norma. Someone else may have the scoop on this - but I have to admit that I haven't been looking for naturalization documents on these people. I'd like to hear about it if others have had any success with this. My reasoning: A - I don't think the US/Canadian border crossings were very much shucks (Midwestern expression!) in those days, especially those between Canada and areas of the US that were not yet states. And B - I don't think our French ancestors paid too much attention to the formality of being naturalized. Same with the Irish on the East Coast - most were never naturalized, because they thought they might be going back any time. In any event, children born in the States or US territories to these un-naturalized couples were automatically US citizens, so why worry??? I see that my GGGrandfather Achille Chiniquy served in the Union Army during the Civil War, despite his having been born in Quebec - was he naturalized first? Or did his service entitle him to citizenship after the fact? Dunno - but he did receive a veteran's pension and so, eventually, did his widow on his behalf. Perhaps the Kankakee Historical Society can inform us on this question. Thanks for asking about it! Ginny Crawford ILSTANNE-L list administrator Carmel Valley CA USA