Hello: Well, if your Henry was married in 1878, then he is not the Henry found by Brenda, but then she did not have any dates to go by. And I can also see some descrepancies that you refered to. The Prudence Benoit, nee Desnoyer and daughter of Francois, died May 12, 1904. She was born August , 1824. (From book printed by Cloud County Genealogical Society. Her death is also recorded in the St Joseph Church Records (Cloud County) as recorded by Bob Gieber. Now when Rose Benoit married Louis Roy , the St Mary's church records stated that she is the daughter of Honore Benoit and Onesime Desnoyer. Below you stated that the mother of Henry was a Lizzie Denoyer. So now we have three Desnoyer's, Prudence, Onesime and Lizzie. I suspect that these three are not the same person but then again they could be. I believe that Bob Gieber used to moniter this list. If you do not here from any Benoits or from someone else, I will send you his email address although it may not be current. Bob had recorded some church records in Washington County so he may have some information pertinent to your search. One thing you might do is to have the Cloud County Genealogical Society look up an obituary for Prudence. Their research rates are very reasonable. Richard Graveline Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Gates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Re: {not a subscriber} Searching for benoit > Henry Benoit married Louisa Cyre in Kimeo, KS in 1878 and they are in the > 1880 census for Washington Co. According to Henry's death sertificate he > was born in Kankakee, Ill. in 1851, His mother's name was Lizza > denoyer/denoire. I found a Lizzie Denoyer in the KVGS Co. Death Records > Index, I don't know if this is the same person since her name is Prudence on > the Kansas census records. I think Henry's father had died before they moved > to Kansas.I haven't found him on any census records for Ill. He supposedly > had only one sister which is still in debate with some relatives. Her name > is Rosalie (Benoit) Roy, she was born in St. Gregoire, Can in 1848 and > married Louis Aime Roy in 1867 in St. Mary, Beaverville, Iroquois, Il., they > had one daughter, Alice. They also appear in the 1880 Kansas census. I hope > this helps it would really help to finally put this peice of the puzzle in > its place. > > Thanks for your help. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Re: {not a subscriber} Searching for benoit > > > > Cindy -- >> > Under Kankakee City, 1870 > > > > ST. PETER 01936 > > Frank 57 day labor C[anada] > > Eliza 48 C. > > Frank 14 C. > > Georgiana 16 C. > > Nelson BENMORE 25 farm laborer C. > > Jane 23 C. > > Nelson 4 Ill. > > Henry 1 Ill. > > > > Apparently they lived with a St. Peter family -- I don't know if that's > Jane's family, or they worked on the St. Peters' farm, it doesn't state > relationship in the 1870 Census. > > > > I don't see them in the 1880 portion of Fr. Ledoux' book, but that doesn't > necessarily mean they weren't in Kankakee in 1880. > > > > Don't know if this helps, but it LOOKS like your family. > > > > Bren > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/5/2002 11:12:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > << Subj: {not a subscriber} Searching for benoit > > Date: 10/5/2002 11:12:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time > > From: [email protected] (Cindy Gates) > > To: [email protected] > > > > I am searching for Henry Benoit, his mother Prudence and any info on his > > father Norris who I think died in Kankakee since Prudence is listed as a > > widow in the Kansas census. Henry was born in Illinois according to his > death > > certificate, his parents were born in Canada. Also Henry had a sister > named > > Rosalin who married Louis Roi (Roy). I've located these folks in the > Kansas > > census but not in the Illinois census. I would appreciate any help in > > locating info on them. I've been given info on them by cousins that > differs > > greatly from what I've found in the census records so any hekp would be > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Cindy Gates

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Graveline" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Re: Searching for benoit You wrote: > Now when Rose Benoit married Louis Roy , the St Mary's church records stated that she is the > daughter of Honore Benoit and Onesime Desnoyer. Below you stated that the mother of Henry was a > Lizzie Denoyer. So now we have three Desnoyer's, Prudence, Onesime and Lizzie. I suspect that > these three are not the same person but then again they could be. > Onesime and Lizzie "are" most likeky the same person . I have a Onsime-Lizzie (Elizabeth) Langlois born 1868 in Manteno,IL. The census takers and county clerks loved to spell the name as how they heard it pronounced . I have a Benoit line in Manteno,St.George area of Kankakee Co. and would need more dates to research the names. a Bientot Jack Langlois

Most people with the name "Onesime" (OH-NAY-ZIM) would use the name "Lesime" (LAY-ZIM). The names were interchangeable.. Like Elizabeth & Isabelle. Lizzie was used by Lezime's DENOYER & DESNOYER are said the same way. DAY-NOAH-YAY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Langlois" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Re: Searching for benoit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Graveline" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:57 PM > Subject: [ILSTANNE] Re: Searching for benoit > > > You wrote: > > Now when Rose Benoit married Louis Roy , the St Mary's church records > stated that she is the > > daughter of Honore Benoit and Onesime Desnoyer. Below you stated that the > mother of Henry was a > > Lizzie Denoyer. So now we have three Desnoyer's, Prudence, Onesime and > Lizzie. I suspect that > > these three are not the same person but then again they could be. > > > > Onesime and Lizzie "are" most likeky the same person . I have a > Onsime-Lizzie (Elizabeth) Langlois born 1868 in Manteno,IL. > The census takers and county clerks loved to spell the name as how they > heard it pronounced . I have a Benoit line in Manteno,St.George > area of Kankakee Co. and would need more dates to research the names. > a Bientot > Jack Langlois > ------- Snipped to save our database --------