Regarding the information Carol Anne wrote (copied below), it appears that this family was enumerated twice in a span of about a week. To make matters worse, they ignored a couple of children and slightly altered some of their ages from one record to another. This is what I found using HeritageQuest: The family appears under Joseph CARIER (although HeritageQuest interpreted it as CARRER) as Carol Anne listed below (I believe her info. may have come from Ledoux). This is Series: M593 Roll: 238 Page: 268; House: 73, Family: 77. They also appear under Joseph CARRIERE in Series: M593 Roll: 238 Page: 274; House: 154, Family: 163. In this second entry, the family is listed as follows: CARRIERE Joseph 36 Canada Rose 26 Canada Charles 5 Illinois Isilda 4 Illinois Jule 3 Illinois Henry 3/12 Illinois Marie 15 Illinois As you can see, the ages of Joseph, Rose, Marie and Charles changed by 3-4 years, Jule's age was off by 1 year, Henry/Honore stayed the same. In addition, Marie appears to be born in IL, which is probably not true. Sons Placid and Joseph did not appear in this version at all. It appears that the version given by Carol Anne is more accurate (because it mentions everyone and certain birth years are corroborated by other sources I have seen). Three questions though: 1) Does anyone have any idea when Joseph (the father) was really born? I have seen 8/3/1822. The census ages would imply either 1831 or 1834, leaving a pretty big gap (although I know they can be really off!) 2) Does anyone know when Rose (the mother) was born? 3) Does anyone know the fate of Rosalie the daughter (baptism record given by Carol Anne). She didn't appear in 1870. I don't find a record of death in the ledger, but I'm assuming she didn't live to 1870. Thanks! Jan -------------------------------------- Carol Anne Chiniquy wrote: Rosalie Carrier - born 9 Apr 1864 St Anne Bap 4 May 1864 First Presbyterian Church of St Anne by Rev. Charles Chiniquy Parents: Joseph carrier and Rosalie LaCoste The 1870 census for St Anne, Illinois shows the following..... CARIER Joseph 39 farmer canada Rose 30 canada Marie 18 VT Joseph 17 canada Placide 15 illinois Charles 8 illinois Asilda 4 illinois Jule 2 illinois Honore 3m illinois