In a message dated 1/14/2003 11:27:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << the word saboteur became a nasty word when workers revolted and threw their wooden shoes (sabots) into machinery to damage it and shut down production. >> Wonderful! Thank you - I think I'd forgotten that - if I ever knew it < grin > Seems our Guertin newcomers were more right than we thought. Luddites, arise! Salut to all, Ginny