In a message dated 10/12/2005 9:06:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, buetvsia@netins.net writes: "I received an e-mail from a Mr. Kirby Ashburn, (another Gelino relative) and the following e-mail from Mr. Ashburn serves as a "yes" Hubert had a BROTHER George who resided in Kansas. Mr. Ashburn is the Grandson of Hubert and Milodel's oldest daughter Eva Gelino. It is a lengthy e-mail, but I found it very interesting and maybe someone else on this list will too." Kirby Ashburn says, among other interesting things: All my attempts on the Internet to find anything on the name of Gelino/Gelineau in Illinois have proved fruitless. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ginny says: Allors! I hate to hear that, when our wonderful list was well underway and bursting with information in 2002, when Kirby wrote to Vickie. I hope he joined us! For all on and off our list - those tortured spellings that resulted from the surnames being written down by non-French-speakers often stand in the way of our finding the information we seek. Don't forget to be madly creative and even eccentric in your guesses as to how your wanted surname evolved. Chhers to all, and bon chance ! Ginny