Please confirm the approximate birth year of Hubert and how you established his parents were Peter and Ann. I have a lot of information on this line. Nancy Malling

> Please confirm the approximate birth year of Hubert and how you according to the birth certificate of his first child with melodie/milodell, he was born c1853 in Canada, though another source (birth of 2nd child) says c1860 in St Anne, IL Hubert and milodell were married dec 1879 in kankakee, il, and shortly thereafter moved to Kansas, living in the Concordia area, where they had their children. They divorced in the early 1890s, and Milodell returned to the Royal, Iowa area and married Remi Franker/Francoeur in 1893. (Vicki has this marriage cert.) Melodell died in 1900, and is buried in Royal. Hubert remained in Kansas, and i later located him in the Topeka State mental hospital (his mental health is one reason family cites for the divorce.) He died there in 1930. > established his parents were Peter and Ann. I have a lot of information > on this line. census records for george gelino (hubert's brother, whom i have a letter from via Vicki) indicate that his father and mother were born in Canada and France, respectively. the info that Peter and Ann/Hannah are his parents came from a researcher on the Quebech-Research list (i don't have my notes at work with me, so i'm doing this from memory.) that, along with census recrods, establishes the family in Kankakee in the 1870s and 1880s. They're supposedly listed in St Anne for the 1860 census with Hubert still in the household, but i haven't been able to locate that census film (if anyone has it and can send me a copy, i'd be much appreciative!) i can't seem to locate Hubert and Milodell as a household on the 1880 census (since they married in 1879) though they should still be in the Kankakee area. unfortunately the 1890 census isn't available, so i have no record of the household of Hubert and Milodell in Kansas. I've been looking for special censuses in KS (1885, 1895), but haven't had time to order them. some of the gelino data that's been posted to the Q-R list: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/Q/QUEBEC-RESEARCH+2005+1331120111009+MESSAGE-BODY -- alyska. ----------- http://www.alyska.net

Nancy - I received some of my information from another "family member" - Barbara Chase - the following is from her e-mails to me: quote: "According to the 1860 Federal Census/St. Anne, Illinois; Hubert is the 8 year old son of Pierre and Adeline Gelineau who was born in Canada (see Ledoux Bk #00518). This would make him the younger brother of my great grandmother Helene Gelineau/Gelino. I think there may have been another son named George Gelino who migrated to Aurora, Kansas or did Hubert have a son by that name? Hubert's older sister Agnes went out and stayed with a George Gelino in the early 1900s before returning to Kankakee. I am trying to complete information on all of Pierre and Adeline's children and would love to have the names and dates for the family of Hubert and Melodie (Boudreau). Barbara also e-mailed this to the list at one time: This is for Nancy Mallings too and all those interested in the Gelineau line: Bill Gelineau has put his book on this family "Descendants of Elie (Elie the Jew) Jueillineau" (altho he has Pierre only married once to Archange Ares but I have emailed him about the second marriage) online: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/e/l/William-Mark-Gelineau/index .html According to his book this is the line: #163, Pierre (9) Gelineau; #80, Antoine (8) Gelineau; #33, Joseph Daniel (7) Gelineau; #15, Daniel Marie (6) Gelinaud; #10, Francois (5) Gelinaud; #7, Jean (4) Juiellineau; #4, Joseph (3) Juiellineau; #2, Olivier (2) Juiellineau; #1, Elie (1) Juiellineau. There is a great deal to read about these families. Barbara Chase ***** I also received the following in an e-mail dated: March 26, 2002 from Barbara Chase: Quote: Here is the information from the Death Certificate of HUBERT GELINO: Registered No. 3966 Date of death: 1 Sept 1930 Cause of death: Organic Heart Disease Place of death: Topeka, Shawnee Co., KS Residence at Death: State Hospital, Topeka Length at that Residence: 22 yrs, 11 mos, 21 days Date of birth: 1851, Canada; Age: 79 yrs Marital Status: Divorced; Wife: unknown Trade: Carpenter Father: unknown; Birthplace: unknown Mother: unknown; Maiden name: Unknown; Birthplace: unknown Informant: State Hospital Records, Topeka, KS BChase end quote ****** I (Vickie Franker) Buettner do have in my possession copies of birth certificates I received from the State of Illinois for Hubert's and Milodel's first born child as well as their 2nd child. Does this help you in any way to confirm where my sources are from with my search for my Great Grandmother Milodel and her first husband Hubert Gelino? My Great Grandfather Remi Francoeur (Franker) married Milodel in Clay County, Iowa on April 3, 1893. They had four children together before Milodel died in 1900. I think Barbara at the same time she was e-mailing me was also sharing information with you and or visa-versa. If I can be of further help with any information on Milodel's second marriage let me know. Vickie (Franker) Buettner Anthon, IA -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Malling [mailto:nancy@themallings.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:48 AM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] Hubert Gelino Please confirm the approximate birth year of Hubert and how you established his parents were Peter and Ann. I have a lot of information on this line. Nancy Malling ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I received an e-mail from a Mr. Kirby Ashburn, (another Gelino relative) and the following e-mail from Mr. Ashburn serves as a "yes" Hubert had a BROTHER George who resided in Kansas. Mr. Ashburn is the Grandson of Hubert and Milodel's oldest daughter Eva Gelino. It is a lengthy e-mail, but I found it very interesting and maybe someone else on this list will too. Enjoy and if I can be of any other help, let me know. Vickie (Franker) Buettner Anthon, IA ....I think there may have been another son named George Gelino who migrated to Aurora, Kansas ....Hubert's older sister Agnes went out and stayed with a George Gelino in the early 1900s before returning to Kankakee..... *** Mr. Ashburn's e-mail: dated January, 2002: Dear Vickie, I'll do my best to fill you in on what I remember my Grandmother telling me about the Gelino (Gelineau) Family and what I remember from an old French Bible that she had. First off, her mother's first name was actually Milodell (Me-low-dell) and I remember how Grandma pronounced it in French and how pretty the name sounded. I thought that her maiden name was something more like Boudry. Somehow she and Hubert (oo-bare) went from Illinois with Harvey and Eva (my grandmother) to Concordia, Kansas where Arthur, Emma, Adlor and Amile were born. Hubert had serious mental problems and she divorced him and came to live with all those French Families who had come from Illinois and settled west of Royal. As a young girl my Grandma worked for Eli Franker and eventually Milodell married his brother Remy. Milodell and Remy had the second family and she died of pneumonia when she was only 36 years old. She was buried without a marker in the cemetery across from the old Gross Homestead west of Royal. I've e combed every inch of that cemetery in knee high grass looking for anything leading to her, but there is nothing today except toppled stones with all those French names from that era. I'll tell you one thing, my Grandmother thought her mother was a saint and she very well may have been one. Now to the part about the second family. With the exception of Oscar, the kids were put up for adoption and scattered to the four winds. ...Oscar stayed on the farm for a while with Grandma and Grandpa and he remained close to her until the day she died. I saw a lot of him when I was younger and I remember that he told some tall tales. ...My Dad was killed in a rollercaster accident at Lake Okoboji in 1935 when I was 11 months old. My grandparents (Eva And Edgar Morrow) raised me so I was very fortunate in that I got to meet all those old French people that came to visit. In 1952, on a trip back from my sister's wedding in California, we stopped in Concordia, Kansas so my Grandma could visit with Hubert's brother George Gelineau. He was very old and delighted to see her and they spoke French all the time we were there. His mailbox said "Gelineau" on it and I have learned since that is correct and the name was probably changed phonically by the banker in Royal, Iowa. I have no idea what ever happened to Remy (Remi) Franker. I'd be interested to know if you have any information on that. All my attempts on the Internet to find anything on the name of Gelino/Gelineau in Illinois have proved fruitless. Morrow/Moreau is much easier because Great-grandpa Aleck was in the Civil War and there's quite a bit on him in the Illinois State Archives. If at all possible, I'd like to have a copy of the Gelino birth certificates you have from Illinois. If I've missed anything or if I remember any other details about the family, I'll gladly pass them on to you. Best Regards, Kirby -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Malling [mailto:nancy@themallings.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:48 AM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] Hubert Gelino Please confirm the approximate birth year of Hubert and how you established his parents were Peter and Ann. I have a lot of information on this line. Nancy Malling ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to ILSTANNE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx