I believe you may have some correct and some incorrect information about Hubert. The 1860 census shows this family with a very poor spelling of the last name. If you have access to Ancestry .com census records you will find this family listed as Pierre *Jolican* in Kankakee County, IL The parents are Pierre and Adeline.. One of their children is Octave (Octavia) who is my gg grandmother. I believe Peter ( Pierre) shown as 16 yrs old ( who later married Marie Anna Bastien) is an older brother of Hubert's who is shown to be 8 years old in that census. The son George is not shown in 1860. Hope this helps. Nancy Malling Alyska Bailey wrote: >>Please confirm the approximate birth year of Hubert and how you >> >> > >according to the birth certificate of his first child with >melodie/milodell, he was born c1853 in Canada, though another source >(birth of 2nd child) says c1860 in St Anne, IL > >Hubert and milodell were married dec 1879 in kankakee, il, and shortly >thereafter moved to Kansas, living in the Concordia area, where they >had their children. > >They divorced in the early 1890s, and Milodell returned to the Royal, >Iowa area and married Remi Franker/Francoeur in 1893. (Vicki has this >marriage cert.) Melodell died in 1900, and is buried in Royal. > >Hubert remained in Kansas, and i later located him in the Topeka State >mental hospital (his mental health is one reason family cites for the >divorce.) He died there in 1930. > > > >>established his parents were Peter and Ann. I have a lot of information >>on this line. >> >> > >census records for george gelino (hubert's brother, whom i have a >letter from via Vicki) indicate that his father and mother were born >in Canada and France, respectively. > >the info that Peter and Ann/Hannah are his parents came from a >researcher on the Quebech-Research list (i don't have my notes at work >with me, so i'm doing this from memory.) that, along with census >recrods, establishes the family in Kankakee in the 1870s and 1880s. >They're supposedly listed in St Anne for the 1860 census with Hubert >still in the household, but i haven't been able to locate that census >film (if anyone has it and can send me a copy, i'd be much >appreciative!) > >i can't seem to locate Hubert and Milodell as a household on the 1880 >census (since they married in 1879) though they should still be in the >Kankakee area. > >unfortunately the 1890 census isn't available, so i have no record of >the household of Hubert and Milodell in Kansas. I've been looking for >special censuses in KS (1885, 1895), but haven't had time to order >them. > >some of the gelino data that's been posted to the Q-R list: > >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/Q/QUEBEC-RESEARCH+2005+1331120111009+MESSAGE-BODY > > >-- >alyska. >----------- >http://www.alyska.net > > >==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== >You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >