Yes, they do deserve a huge thank you for doing this work for the benefit of the rest of us. I can't imagine the years and years of trying to decipher the handwriting and making the translations. The spelling in the US census records are full of errors and they were written in English! -----Original Message----- From: Chiniquy@aol.com [mailto:Chiniquy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:56 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette In a message dated 4/27/05 12:41:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bob.powell2@comcast.net writes: > Thank you! Isn't it amazing the variety of spelling for one name, even in > official records? Now we have Padlen, Paille and Palle and (from Paula > Lezotte) Pailline. But, I'm so grateful to finally have a record, and now I > have five! > Frances > Bonjour Francis, About the misspelling, don't forget that the nice neat typed records were translated from the original hand written french and latin records. They were very hard to read and the gals that made all this possible for us did the best they could at the time. All of our french-canadian names took a real beating. Carol Anne ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: http:boards.ancestry.com/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

In a message dated 4/27/05 12:57:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bob.powell2@comcast.net writes: > Thank you Carol Anne! > Hey Francis, I told you that the St Anne List people were helpful. Isn't genealogy fun <big grin>

Thank you Frances and Carol Anne! Frances Powell wrote: > Catherine's parents were Jean-Baptiste Sigault and Marie Carriere. I don't > have their dates of birth or place of birth. I'm guessing they stayed in > Montreal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janis K. Zewari [mailto:jzewari@mindspring.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:42 PM > To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > What about Catherine's parents? Who were they? > > Frances Powell wrote: > > > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux's parents were Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault or > > Sigo. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: R Ouimet [mailto:raymond.ouimet@sympatico.ca] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:13 PM > > To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > > > Bonjour, > > > > Who were the father and mother of Jean-Baptiste Ledoux ? There was many > > Ledoux in the Vallée du Richelieu (south of Montréal) in the 1800-18500. > > Some were acquainted with the Babin of Kankakee. > > > > Raymond Ouimet > > Gatineau (Québec) > > > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > > De : "Frances Powell" <bob.powell2@comcast.net> > > À : <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Envoyé : 27 avril, 2005 11:26 > > Objet : [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > > > > My great great grandmother was Maire Payet. I'm trying to find out who > > her > > > parents (and the rest of her family) were. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to family history, Marie married my great great grandfather, > > > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux on Feb 27, 1859 in Kankakee County. Her daughters > > > Agnes (my great grandmother) and Josephine were born in 1864 and 1862, > but > > > Marie died sometime between Agnes birth and the 1870 census which shows > > Jean > > > had remarried widow Martha Esther Lamphere Chartier and was still living > > in > > > St. Anne. Martha had a daughter by her previous marriage, and she and > > Jean > > > went on to have 8 more daughters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean's parents, Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault/Sigo were part of > the > > > believers who followed Father Chiniquy from Montreal to Bourbannaise and > > St. > > > Anne in > > > > > > In 1855 Federal Census Michel is listed 62 years old and living on Claim > > in > > > Range 13, Bourbonnais Township. Michel died in St. Anne in 1873 and his > > > wife Catherine Sigo died in St. Anne in 1901. Also in Federal Census is > > > mentioned Michael's sister and brother-in-law Mathilda Sigo-Neveau and > > Louis > > > Sigo. Louis had a wife, 3 sons and 2 daughters at that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot find Marie and Jean-Baptiste Ledoux in the 1860 census > (anywhere) > > > and have looked under all kinds of variations of spelliing. Does anyone > > > have access to any records that would show the marriage of Marie and > Jean? > > > Or who her family was? Or the birth of Agnes and Josephine or baby > > Caroline > > > who died in infancy? > > > > > > Frances Powell > > > > > > bob.powell2@comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ============================== > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list > > to those who have helped you. 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Thanks! Next question. Any idea what Community School Teacher might mean in the context of those times? I am having trouble finding what happened to Pierre Beck as he doesn't appear in the 1870 census anywhere that I can find (wife does in Iroquois). While I can track much of the family and events for the 1860's and 1870's through church records he just seems to disappear. Pike's Peak? Now there is an interesting occupation! Rolayne -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet <Mama.CAS@comcast.net> To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:24:39 -0500 Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] RE: Regnier/Graveline I looked at the entry. It lists his occupation as Com Sch Teach. I would guess that to be Community School Teacher. There were 2 living in Kankakee that year. Bourbonnias did not have St. Viatruse College listed that year. Another interesting occupation was that there were quite a number of young men whose occupation was listed as "gone to Pike's Peak". -Cyndi -----Original Message----- From: Candismom@aol.com [mailto:Candismom@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:50 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] RE: Regnier/Graveline My family is the Beck/Clouatre line but wondering if St. Viatruse College or Notre Dame Academy were functioning in 1860? Or any other known schools? My gggrandfather Pierre Beck is listed as "schoolteacher" in 1860 census? Anyone have any ideas? Rolayne Nelson ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Thank you Carol Anne! -----Original Message----- From: Chiniquy@aol.com [mailto:Chiniquy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:45 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette Ops....Mary Carriere was 71 yrs old when she died. Carol Anne ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to ILSTANNE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

In a message dated 4/27/05 12:41:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bob.powell2@comcast.net writes: > Thank you! Isn't it amazing the variety of spelling for one name, even in > official records? Now we have Padlen, Paille and Palle and (from Paula > Lezotte) Pailline. But, I'm so grateful to finally have a record, and now I > have five! > Frances > Bonjour Francis, About the misspelling, don't forget that the nice neat typed records were translated from the original hand written french and latin records. They were very hard to read and the gals that made all this possible for us did the best they could at the time. All of our french-canadian names took a real beating. Carol Anne

Ops....Mary Carriere was 71 yrs old when she died. Carol Anne

In a message dated 4/27/05 12:28:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bob.powell2@comcast.net writes: > Catherine's parents were Jean-Baptiste Sigault and Marie Carriere. I don't > have their dates of birth or place of birth. I'm guessing they stayed in > Montreal. > Marie Carrier Sigault died 23 Jul 1849 and it buried at MBVM Cemetery SOURCE: Maternity of BVM Death Records Carol Anne

Thank you! Isn't it amazing the variety of spelling for one name, even in official records? Now we have Padlen, Paille and Palle and (from Paula Lezotte) Pailline. But, I'm so grateful to finally have a record, and now I have five! Frances -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:31 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette Here is Caroline's death Burial 10 30 Aug 1861 Caroline Ledou Died day before yesterday at the age of 10 months, daughter of Jean Baptiste Ledou and Marie Padlén of Ste-Anne Present: Joseph Caillouette and Israël St-Pierre ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Catherine's parents were Jean-Baptiste Sigault and Marie Carriere. I don't have their dates of birth or place of birth. I'm guessing they stayed in Montreal. -----Original Message----- From: Janis K. Zewari [mailto:jzewari@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:42 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette What about Catherine's parents? Who were they? Frances Powell wrote: > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux's parents were Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault or > Sigo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: R Ouimet [mailto:raymond.ouimet@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:13 PM > To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > Bonjour, > > Who were the father and mother of Jean-Baptiste Ledoux ? There was many > Ledoux in the Vallée du Richelieu (south of Montréal) in the 1800-18500. > Some were acquainted with the Babin of Kankakee. > > Raymond Ouimet > Gatineau (Québec) > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "Frances Powell" <bob.powell2@comcast.net> > À : <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Envoyé : 27 avril, 2005 11:26 > Objet : [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > > My great great grandmother was Maire Payet. I'm trying to find out who > her > > parents (and the rest of her family) were. > > > > > > > > According to family history, Marie married my great great grandfather, > > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux on Feb 27, 1859 in Kankakee County. Her daughters > > Agnes (my great grandmother) and Josephine were born in 1864 and 1862, but > > Marie died sometime between Agnes birth and the 1870 census which shows > Jean > > had remarried widow Martha Esther Lamphere Chartier and was still living > in > > St. Anne. Martha had a daughter by her previous marriage, and she and > Jean > > went on to have 8 more daughters. > > > > > > > > Jean's parents, Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault/Sigo were part of the > > believers who followed Father Chiniquy from Montreal to Bourbannaise and > St. > > Anne in > > > > In 1855 Federal Census Michel is listed 62 years old and living on Claim > in > > Range 13, Bourbonnais Township. Michel died in St. Anne in 1873 and his > > wife Catherine Sigo died in St. Anne in 1901. Also in Federal Census is > > mentioned Michael's sister and brother-in-law Mathilda Sigo-Neveau and > Louis > > Sigo. Louis had a wife, 3 sons and 2 daughters at that time. > > > > > > > > I cannot find Marie and Jean-Baptiste Ledoux in the 1860 census (anywhere) > > and have looked under all kinds of variations of spelliing. Does anyone > > have access to any records that would show the marriage of Marie and Jean? > > Or who her family was? Or the birth of Agnes and Josephine or baby > Caroline > > who died in infancy? > > > > Frances Powell > > > > bob.powell2@comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list > to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's > nice to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to ILSTANNE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to ILSTANNE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Marie must have died when Agnes was born in 1864. Are there death records? -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:03 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette I did not find her. I searched 1864 line by line also. I searched for an Agnes using a word search. I did not find her birth. -Cyndi -----Original Message----- From: Frances Powell [mailto:bob.powell2@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:52 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette Cindi, I see you found them, too! And more. I'm sure Caroline and Josephine are theirs. Caroline died in infancy. Is Agnes there too? Frances ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Cindi, I see you found them, too! And more. I'm sure Caroline and Josephine are theirs. Caroline died in infancy. Is Agnes there too? Frances -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette I believe that I found him. I searched for a John born in Canada between the ages of 20-29 and white and male and living in Illinois in Kankakee county in 1860. There were 21 listed John LEDOUD looked to be close enough. They are living in St. Ann. House number 2171, Family number 2083. John Ledoud age 22 Farmer 225 born Canada Marie " age 18 Female Born Canada And I did send you these two births from St. Marie of Beaverville. The records begin in November of 1859 so their marriage would not be there. You would want to send for that record from IRAD and find out who married them. Baptism 64 16 Dec 1860 Marie Caroline Ledon Born 8 Dec, daughter of Jean Baptiste Ledon and Marie Paillé Godparents: Antoine Labbé and Caroline Wood Baptism 49 9 Aug 1862 Marie Joséphine Ledou Born 15 Jul, daughter of Jean Baptiste Ledou and Marie Pallé (Paillé) of Ste-Anne Godparents: Louis Demière and Angèle Caron -----Original Message----- From: Frances Powell [mailto:bob.powell2@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:14 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette This is very helpful. I'm sure of Jean Baptiste Ladoux's name. (He spelled it with an a in later life) What I'm not sure of is: (a) how the record keepers could have mispelled it, and (b) Marie's name. I had looked seriously at Restitute Robich because of these records, but Father Albert Ledoux told me he had received a set of cards with documentation on this Ledoux branch, and that he felt sure Marie Payet was her name. I know Jean B. Ladoux had no sons, so that does rule out Restitue since you've given me data showing she had two. (It was a big deal in our family that he had had 12 daughters (counting his step daughter by Martha) and that he had no sons.) A distant cousin (now gone) told me Jean's first wife's name was Marie Payey. That would jive with the record you found which gives the day. Now I don't know if Jean B.'s last name was mispelled in the record (probably) or if my cousin chose this date for the marriage because she found this record and assumed this was our John B. At least it gives me something new to work on. And, a new spelling (Payai) for Marie (Payet/Payette/Payay)'s last name. Do you find any entries for Agnes or Josephine's births? My great grand-mother Agnes was still alive when I was a girl and lived nearby. We also went to visit the "Ida May Ladoux" who I knew Ida as my Aunt May Johnson. Your information sent me back looking for a second JB Ledoux. I had seen one in the 1960 census, but the search said he was 89 years old, so I had discounted him. This time I went to the record, and found the JB Ledoux married to Restitute and with four children ranging from 3 to 12. (The ages were obviously misread and he was 39 instead of 89) Now that that couple is accounted for, I still need to find my JB Ledoux, who would have been 22 in 1860 if I go by his age in the 1870 census. Thank you again. You've given me a big step forward. Frances Powell -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:21 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette I believe that you are looking for Jean Baptiste Lebeau or Lebault or Labeau. Here is what I found so far. Here is from the Chiniquy Ledger. I thought that he also had a previous wife. 4 Mar 1857 Jacob Ledoux Born the day before to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Casimin Laplante & Marie Duchesneau 4 Jul 1858 Levy Ledoux Born 23 Jun to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Marcisse Bivau(?) & Sophie Brunatre(?) 5 Feb 1860 Virginie Ledoux Born 8 Oct 1859 to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitute Ledoux He was still having children with Restitue in 1859. Then he had this child with another wife. 5 May 1873 Ida Ledoux Born 18 Jan to Jean Bte and Matha Ledoux So I looked up the marriage. LADEAUX, JOHN CARTIER, MARTHA 06/30/1868 00B/ 00002069 KANKAKEE -And I looked for a marrage in Kankakee county with a groom whose name started with an "L" and a bride whose name started with a "P". I found this one. LEBOW, JOHN PAYAI, MARGUERITE 02/27/1859 00B/ 00000218 KANKAKEE You are looking for the surname Lebault or Lebeau or Labeau. This has the correct date of marriage. -Cyndi ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Cyndi, Wow! Thanks to you, I went to the 1860 census for St. Anne and went through it line by line. I found them! On page 287! John Ledoux, age 22, farmer, born in Canada, and Marie, age 18, born in Canada. I don't know why they weren't showing up on my searches. Now, I still need to find out for sure what Marie's last name was And who her parents were. Frances -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:21 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette I believe that you are looking for Jean Baptiste Lebeau or Lebault or Labeau. Here is what I found so far. Here is from the Chiniquy Ledger. I thought that he also had a previous wife. 4 Mar 1857 Jacob Ledoux Born the day before to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Casimin Laplante & Marie Duchesneau 4 Jul 1858 Levy Ledoux Born 23 Jun to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Marcisse Bivau(?) & Sophie Brunatre(?) 5 Feb 1860 Virginie Ledoux Born 8 Oct 1859 to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitute Ledoux He was still having children with Restitue in 1859. Then he had this child with another wife. 5 May 1873 Ida Ledoux Born 18 Jan to Jean Bte and Matha Ledoux So I looked up the marriage. LADEAUX, JOHN CARTIER, MARTHA 06/30/1868 00B/ 00002069 KANKAKEE -And I looked for a marrage in Kankakee county with a groom whose name started with an "L" and a bride whose name started with a "P". I found this one. LEBOW, JOHN PAYAI, MARGUERITE 02/27/1859 00B/ 00000218 KANKAKEE You are looking for the surname Lebault or Lebeau or Labeau. This has the correct date of marriage. -Cyndi ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Here is Caroline's death Burial 10 30 Aug 1861 Caroline Ledou Died day before yesterday at the age of 10 months, daughter of Jean Baptiste Ledou and Marie Padlén of Ste-Anne Present: Joseph Caillouette and Israël St-Pierre

This is very helpful. I'm sure of Jean Baptiste Ladoux's name. (He spelled it with an a in later life) What I'm not sure of is: (a) how the record keepers could have mispelled it, and (b) Marie's name. I had looked seriously at Restitute Robich because of these records, but Father Albert Ledoux told me he had received a set of cards with documentation on this Ledoux branch, and that he felt sure Marie Payet was her name. I know Jean B. Ladoux had no sons, so that does rule out Restitue since you've given me data showing she had two. (It was a big deal in our family that he had had 12 daughters (counting his step daughter by Martha) and that he had no sons.) A distant cousin (now gone) told me Jean's first wife's name was Marie Payey. That would jive with the record you found which gives the day. Now I don't know if Jean B.'s last name was mispelled in the record (probably) or if my cousin chose this date for the marriage because she found this record and assumed this was our John B. At least it gives me something new to work on. And, a new spelling (Payai) for Marie (Payet/Payette/Payay)'s last name. Do you find any entries for Agnes or Josephine's births? My great grand-mother Agnes was still alive when I was a girl and lived nearby. We also went to visit the "Ida May Ladoux" who I knew Ida as my Aunt May Johnson. Your information sent me back looking for a second JB Ledoux. I had seen one in the 1960 census, but the search said he was 89 years old, so I had discounted him. This time I went to the record, and found the JB Ledoux married to Restitute and with four children ranging from 3 to 12. (The ages were obviously misread and he was 39 instead of 89) Now that that couple is accounted for, I still need to find my JB Ledoux, who would have been 22 in 1860 if I go by his age in the 1870 census. Thank you again. You've given me a big step forward. Frances Powell -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:21 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette I believe that you are looking for Jean Baptiste Lebeau or Lebault or Labeau. Here is what I found so far. Here is from the Chiniquy Ledger. I thought that he also had a previous wife. 4 Mar 1857 Jacob Ledoux Born the day before to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Casimin Laplante & Marie Duchesneau 4 Jul 1858 Levy Ledoux Born 23 Jun to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Marcisse Bivau(?) & Sophie Brunatre(?) 5 Feb 1860 Virginie Ledoux Born 8 Oct 1859 to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitute Ledoux He was still having children with Restitue in 1859. Then he had this child with another wife. 5 May 1873 Ida Ledoux Born 18 Jan to Jean Bte and Matha Ledoux So I looked up the marriage. LADEAUX, JOHN CARTIER, MARTHA 06/30/1868 00B/ 00002069 KANKAKEE -And I looked for a marrage in Kankakee county with a groom whose name started with an "L" and a bride whose name started with a "P". I found this one. LEBOW, JOHN PAYAI, MARGUERITE 02/27/1859 00B/ 00000218 KANKAKEE You are looking for the surname Lebault or Lebeau or Labeau. This has the correct date of marriage. -Cyndi ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

I did not find her. I searched 1864 line by line also. I searched for an Agnes using a word search. I did not find her birth. -Cyndi -----Original Message----- From: Frances Powell [mailto:bob.powell2@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:52 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette Cindi, I see you found them, too! And more. I'm sure Caroline and Josephine are theirs. Caroline died in infancy. Is Agnes there too? Frances

I believe that I found him. I searched for a John born in Canada between the ages of 20-29 and white and male and living in Illinois in Kankakee county in 1860. There were 21 listed John LEDOUD looked to be close enough. They are living in St. Ann. House number 2171, Family number 2083. John Ledoud age 22 Farmer 225 born Canada Marie " age 18 Female Born Canada And I did send you these two births from St. Marie of Beaverville. The records begin in November of 1859 so their marriage would not be there. You would want to send for that record from IRAD and find out who married them. Baptism 64 16 Dec 1860 Marie Caroline Ledon Born 8 Dec, daughter of Jean Baptiste Ledon and Marie Paillé Godparents: Antoine Labbé and Caroline Wood Baptism 49 9 Aug 1862 Marie Joséphine Ledou Born 15 Jul, daughter of Jean Baptiste Ledou and Marie Pallé (Paillé) of Ste-Anne Godparents: Louis Demière and Angèle Caron -----Original Message----- From: Frances Powell [mailto:bob.powell2@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:14 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette This is very helpful. I'm sure of Jean Baptiste Ladoux's name. (He spelled it with an a in later life) What I'm not sure of is: (a) how the record keepers could have mispelled it, and (b) Marie's name. I had looked seriously at Restitute Robich because of these records, but Father Albert Ledoux told me he had received a set of cards with documentation on this Ledoux branch, and that he felt sure Marie Payet was her name. I know Jean B. Ladoux had no sons, so that does rule out Restitue since you've given me data showing she had two. (It was a big deal in our family that he had had 12 daughters (counting his step daughter by Martha) and that he had no sons.) A distant cousin (now gone) told me Jean's first wife's name was Marie Payey. That would jive with the record you found which gives the day. Now I don't know if Jean B.'s last name was mispelled in the record (probably) or if my cousin chose this date for the marriage because she found this record and assumed this was our John B. At least it gives me something new to work on. And, a new spelling (Payai) for Marie (Payet/Payette/Payay)'s last name. Do you find any entries for Agnes or Josephine's births? My great grand-mother Agnes was still alive when I was a girl and lived nearby. We also went to visit the "Ida May Ladoux" who I knew Ida as my Aunt May Johnson. Your information sent me back looking for a second JB Ledoux. I had seen one in the 1960 census, but the search said he was 89 years old, so I had discounted him. This time I went to the record, and found the JB Ledoux married to Restitute and with four children ranging from 3 to 12. (The ages were obviously misread and he was 39 instead of 89) Now that that couple is accounted for, I still need to find my JB Ledoux, who would have been 22 in 1860 if I go by his age in the 1870 census. Thank you again. You've given me a big step forward. Frances Powell -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet [mailto:Mama.CAS@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:21 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette I believe that you are looking for Jean Baptiste Lebeau or Lebault or Labeau. Here is what I found so far. Here is from the Chiniquy Ledger. I thought that he also had a previous wife. 4 Mar 1857 Jacob Ledoux Born the day before to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Casimin Laplante & Marie Duchesneau 4 Jul 1858 Levy Ledoux Born 23 Jun to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitue Robich Godparents: Marcisse Bivau(?) & Sophie Brunatre(?) 5 Feb 1860 Virginie Ledoux Born 8 Oct 1859 to Jean Bte Ledoux & Restitute Ledoux He was still having children with Restitue in 1859. Then he had this child with another wife. 5 May 1873 Ida Ledoux Born 18 Jan to Jean Bte and Matha Ledoux So I looked up the marriage. LADEAUX, JOHN CARTIER, MARTHA 06/30/1868 00B/ 00002069 KANKAKEE -And I looked for a marrage in Kankakee county with a groom whose name started with an "L" and a bride whose name started with a "P". I found this one. LEBOW, JOHN PAYAI, MARGUERITE 02/27/1859 00B/ 00000218 KANKAKEE You are looking for the surname Lebault or Lebeau or Labeau. 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What about Catherine's parents? Who were they? Frances Powell wrote: > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux's parents were Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault or > Sigo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: R Ouimet [mailto:raymond.ouimet@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:13 PM > To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > Bonjour, > > Who were the father and mother of Jean-Baptiste Ledoux ? There was many > Ledoux in the Vallée du Richelieu (south of Montréal) in the 1800-18500. > Some were acquainted with the Babin of Kankakee. > > Raymond Ouimet > Gatineau (Québec) > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "Frances Powell" <bob.powell2@comcast.net> > À : <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Envoyé : 27 avril, 2005 11:26 > Objet : [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > > My great great grandmother was Maire Payet. I'm trying to find out who > her > > parents (and the rest of her family) were. > > > > > > > > According to family history, Marie married my great great grandfather, > > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux on Feb 27, 1859 in Kankakee County. Her daughters > > Agnes (my great grandmother) and Josephine were born in 1864 and 1862, but > > Marie died sometime between Agnes birth and the 1870 census which shows > Jean > > had remarried widow Martha Esther Lamphere Chartier and was still living > in > > St. Anne. Martha had a daughter by her previous marriage, and she and > Jean > > went on to have 8 more daughters. > > > > > > > > Jean's parents, Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault/Sigo were part of the > > believers who followed Father Chiniquy from Montreal to Bourbannaise and > St. > > Anne in > > > > In 1855 Federal Census Michel is listed 62 years old and living on Claim > in > > Range 13, Bourbonnais Township. Michel died in St. Anne in 1873 and his > > wife Catherine Sigo died in St. Anne in 1901. Also in Federal Census is > > mentioned Michael's sister and brother-in-law Mathilda Sigo-Neveau and > Louis > > Sigo. Louis had a wife, 3 sons and 2 daughters at that time. > > > > > > > > I cannot find Marie and Jean-Baptiste Ledoux in the 1860 census (anywhere) > > and have looked under all kinds of variations of spelliing. Does anyone > > have access to any records that would show the marriage of Marie and Jean? > > Or who her family was? Or the birth of Agnes and Josephine or baby > Caroline > > who died in infancy? > > > > Frances Powell > > > > bob.powell2@comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list > to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's > nice to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to ILSTANNE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Jean-Baptiste Ledoux's parents were Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault or Sigo. -----Original Message----- From: R Ouimet [mailto:raymond.ouimet@sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:13 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette Bonjour, Who were the father and mother of Jean-Baptiste Ledoux ? There was many Ledoux in the Vallée du Richelieu (south of Montréal) in the 1800-18500. Some were acquainted with the Babin of Kankakee. Raymond Ouimet Gatineau (Québec) ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Frances Powell" <bob.powell2@comcast.net> À : <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Envoyé : 27 avril, 2005 11:26 Objet : [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > My great great grandmother was Maire Payet. I'm trying to find out who her > parents (and the rest of her family) were. > > > > According to family history, Marie married my great great grandfather, > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux on Feb 27, 1859 in Kankakee County. Her daughters > Agnes (my great grandmother) and Josephine were born in 1864 and 1862, but > Marie died sometime between Agnes birth and the 1870 census which shows Jean > had remarried widow Martha Esther Lamphere Chartier and was still living in > St. Anne. Martha had a daughter by her previous marriage, and she and Jean > went on to have 8 more daughters. > > > > Jean's parents, Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault/Sigo were part of the > believers who followed Father Chiniquy from Montreal to Bourbannaise and St. > Anne in > > In 1855 Federal Census Michel is listed 62 years old and living on Claim in > Range 13, Bourbonnais Township. Michel died in St. Anne in 1873 and his > wife Catherine Sigo died in St. Anne in 1901. Also in Federal Census is > mentioned Michael's sister and brother-in-law Mathilda Sigo-Neveau and Louis > Sigo. Louis had a wife, 3 sons and 2 daughters at that time. > > > > I cannot find Marie and Jean-Baptiste Ledoux in the 1860 census (anywhere) > and have looked under all kinds of variations of spelliing. Does anyone > have access to any records that would show the marriage of Marie and Jean? > Or who her family was? Or the birth of Agnes and Josephine or baby Caroline > who died in infancy? > > Frances Powell > > bob.powell2@comcast.net > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Bonjour, Who were the father and mother of Jean-Baptiste Ledoux ? There was many Ledoux in the Vallée du Richelieu (south of Montréal) in the 1800-18500. Some were acquainted with the Babin of Kankakee. Raymond Ouimet Gatineau (Québec) ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Frances Powell" <bob.powell2@comcast.net> À : <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Envoyé : 27 avril, 2005 11:26 Objet : [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > My great great grandmother was Maire Payet. I'm trying to find out who her > parents (and the rest of her family) were. > > > > According to family history, Marie married my great great grandfather, > Jean-Baptiste Ledoux on Feb 27, 1859 in Kankakee County. Her daughters > Agnes (my great grandmother) and Josephine were born in 1864 and 1862, but > Marie died sometime between Agnes birth and the 1870 census which shows Jean > had remarried widow Martha Esther Lamphere Chartier and was still living in > St. Anne. Martha had a daughter by her previous marriage, and she and Jean > went on to have 8 more daughters. > > > > Jean's parents, Michel Ledoux and Catherine Sigault/Sigo were part of the > believers who followed Father Chiniquy from Montreal to Bourbannaise and St. > Anne in > > In 1855 Federal Census Michel is listed 62 years old and living on Claim in > Range 13, Bourbonnais Township. Michel died in St. Anne in 1873 and his > wife Catherine Sigo died in St. Anne in 1901. Also in Federal Census is > mentioned Michael's sister and brother-in-law Mathilda Sigo-Neveau and Louis > Sigo. Louis had a wife, 3 sons and 2 daughters at that time. > > > > I cannot find Marie and Jean-Baptiste Ledoux in the 1860 census (anywhere) > and have looked under all kinds of variations of spelliing. Does anyone > have access to any records that would show the marriage of Marie and Jean? > Or who her family was? Or the birth of Agnes and Josephine or baby Caroline > who died in infancy? > > Frances Powell > > bob.powell2@comcast.net > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx