I cannot find them in 1910 and I do not have 1930. Here is 1920. Regnier Albert 30 M W IL IL cook 5-wd Chicago 1920 2320 Regnier, Albert Head M W 30 M no yes yes Chicago Chicago Chicago Fireman City , Elsie Wife F W 28 M no yes yes Chicago Chicago Chicago Unemp , Ethel Daughter F W 9 S yes yes yes Chicago Chicago Chicago Unemp
Dear listers, Would someone do a census search for this family. What is the latest census available? They were married in 1908. Albert was born in 1890 and Elsie in 1892, both in Illinois. They had at least one daughter that I know of named Ethel born in 1911 who later married Louis Hartman. Merci beaucoup Lou
I looked under all NEV- and NAV-, and even all N- for Kankakee county. This is the only one with a groom with the first name of Alex- and the bride with the first name of Matilda/Mathilda. NEVEN, ALEXIS LEDOUX, MATILDA 08/21/1849 / 00001146 WILL Where was Alexis and Mathilda married? Rick
Where was Alexis and Mathilda married? I'm looking for any death info on Alexis Neveau. Thanks for all the replies!!! Rick
I sent this message about the schools last night - maybe it didn't go through - So, I would guess your Mr. Beck was was of the laymen teachers mentioned in the second paragraph. Community School would mean a Public school [to me anyway] as opposed to a Catholic or other church related school. I found the web site for the Village of Bourbonnais http://www.villageofbourbonnais.com/history.cfm *The first step toward providing higher education occurred in 1862, when 10 students enrolled in Notre Dame Academy. Enrollment increased rapidly, and in 1868, St. Viator College was chartered. The college survived a devastating fire in 1906, but succumbed to declining enrollments, and in 1940, the campus of St. Viator College was purchased by Olivet Nazarene College.* http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilkankak/history/k3hist06/k30615.html Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois - *Father Mailloux urged the building of a Catholic college in Bourbonnais, but, as the proposition to build a private institution did not appeal to a great number a public school was erected at the expense of the township in spite of Father Maillous' protest. This school was opened in 1859, during the pastorate of Father Gingras, and was taught by sisters and laymen, among the latter being a young teacher who afterwards became Judge Starr, of Kankakee. Father Gingras, however, built the main part of Notre Dame academy, which he placed in charge of the Sisters of the congregation in 1862. * I dug out my copy of The Saga of Ste. Anne, where there is quite a bit about the schools there - p54-66 In 1850 the first school was built - a 40 foot square 2 story bldg. The upper floor used for school, the lower for a chapel on Sunday. It burned in 1855. The first teacher was Francis Bechard. In 1862 the teacher was Felix Charland A female teacher was hired for 3 months during the winter term when the enrollment was at the highest of the year. School burned down 1868-69, and classes were held in the 1st Presbyterian church, then in the 2nd Presbyterian church the following year. Second school house built 1871. It goes on from here, but this covers 10 yrs beyond the date you found him. In Ste.Anne, Fr. Chiniquy organized the first Catholic Church related school in 1855, taught by 2 Christian brothers Matthew & Geoffrey, but when Fr. Chiniquy was suspended the school was closed. Eventually, St. Anne Academy was was completed on Oct. 25, 1884. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <candismom@aol.com> To: <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] RE: Regnier/Graveline > Thanks! Next question. Any idea what Community School Teacher might mean in the context of those times? I am having trouble finding what happened to Pierre Beck as he doesn't appear in the 1870 census anywhere that I can find (wife does in Iroquois). While I can track much of the family and events for the 1860's and 1870's through church records he just seems to disappear. > > Pike's Peak? Now there is an interesting occupation! > > Rolayne > >
In a message dated 4/27/2005 11:14:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, bob.powell2@comcast.net writes: of Jean Baptiste Ladoux's name. (He spelled it with an a in later life) What I'm not sure of is: (a) how the record keepers could have mispelled it, and (b) Marie's name. +++++++++++++++++ Almost the first rule of genealogy is "don't sweat the spelling!" there was no such thing as a right or wrong way to spell a surname for a very long time - as long as it was clear who was meant, that is. Most of the records we have for our ancestors show their names SPELLED BY SOMEONE ELSE when they spoke the names to that person. Since our St. Anne peole spoke French as their first language and they were often speaking to native Egnish-speakers . . . the fact that they worked with different phonetic values for each letter resulted in many inconsistencies. . . to put it mildly! Not to metntion that many of our ancestors and their contemporaries did not read or write easily - they had often gorwn up on remote farms where little schooling was available. So the classic advice has been to go with the flow of the variant spellings as long as you can make some phonetic connection - and use other indicia such as birth dates, parents, marriage dates, etc., to ascertain if you are on the right track or not. The LEDOUX, LEBLOW, LEBEAU, LADOUX, etc variants - and the PAYET, PAYETTE, PAILLE, etc variants referenced in this recent exchange are cases in point. Whew! This genealogy stuff is HARD WORK. Salut to all! Ginny Crawford list admin
Hello: Sorry, no death entry for Marie. There is one other entry that might be related to your Jean-Baptiste. 26 May 1859 baptism of Josephine Ledaue (Ledoux?) by Fr Brisard 23 May 1859 born to John B Ledaue (Ledoux?) and Clotilde Charet Godparents: Adolph Lafond and Josephine Boudreau richard graveline Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Powell" <bob.powell2@comcast.net> To: <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > Richard, does that book also have any entries for the death of Marie > Parlle/Paille/Palle/Payey/Payai/Payet, etc.? wife of Jean Baptiste > Ladoux? > She died after Agnes was born on June 22, 1864, and before the 1870 > census. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Graveline [mailto:abcg@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:44 PM > To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > > Hello: > > I do not remember seeing this baptism today. It may be of interest. It > is > from St John the Baptist Catholic Church, Record Book One compiled by > Norma > Meier. > > 3 Jul 1864 baptism of Laure Ledou (Ledeau/Ledouox?) by Fr Cote > 22 Jun 1864 born to John Baptiste Ledou and Marie Parlle > Godparents: Frederick Bernier and Caroline Lemieux > > > richard graveline > Georgia
Thank you, Paula -----Original Message----- From: Paula Lezotte [mailto:birds11@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:11 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] Neveu May 22, 1851, Mathilde Neveu daughter of Alexis Neveu and Mathilde Ledoux Godparents: Michael Ledoux and Catharine Sigau (Sigault) August 21, 1849, Alexis Neveu married Mathilda Ledoux in the presence of Jean Baptiste Hubert and Francois Boucher & Gabriel Lambert ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx
Here is 1880 Kankakee, Kankakee, IL Alex Neview Self M Male W 54 CAN laborer CAN CAN Matilda Neview Wife M Female W 50 housekeeper CAN CAN Martha Neview Dau S Female W 30 IL Dressmaker CAN CAN Napoleon Neview son S Male W 26 IL Laborer CAN CAN Henry Neview Son S Male W 24 Laborer CAN CAN Carrie Neview Dau S Female W 20 IL Dressmaker CAN CAN George Neview Son S Male W 15 IL At School CAN CAN Emma Neview Dau S Female W 10 IL At School CAN CAN Emery Neview son S Male W 7 IL At School CAN CAN Allor Neview son S Male W 3 IL CAN CAN
Richard, does that book also have any entries for the death of Marie Parlle/Paille/Palle/Payey/Payai/Payet, etc.? wife of Jean Baptiste Ladoux? She died after Agnes was born on June 22, 1864, and before the 1870 census. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Graveline [mailto:abcg@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:44 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette Hello: I do not remember seeing this baptism today. It may be of interest. It is from St John the Baptist Catholic Church, Record Book One compiled by Norma Meier. 3 Jul 1864 baptism of Laure Ledou (Ledeau/Ledouox?) by Fr Cote 22 Jun 1864 born to John Baptiste Ledou and Marie Parlle Godparents: Frederick Bernier and Caroline Lemieux richard graveline Georgia ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: http:boards.ancestry.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
Here is 1870 for that family Neview, Alexander 44 M W Canada IL Kankakee Kankakee Page 72 family 554 Nevieau, Alexander 44 M W (I can't read the occupation) born canada , Matilda 40 F W Keeping house born Canada , Matilda 19 F W IL , Napoleon 16 M W Day Laborer IL , Alonzo 14 M W IL , Lavina 12 F W IL , Casmire 10 F W IL , Ra? 8 F W IL , George 5 M W IL , Emiree 6/12 F W IL
Hello: I do not remember seeing this baptism today. It may be of interest. It is from St John the Baptist Catholic Church, Record Book One compiled by Norma Meier. 3 Jul 1864 baptism of Laure Ledou (Ledeau/Ledouox?) by Fr Cote 22 Jun 1864 born to John Baptiste Ledou and Marie Parlle Godparents: Frederick Bernier and Caroline Lemieux richard graveline Georgia
Father Chiniquy's Ledger, St. Anne, Kankakee County, Illinois NEVEAU Feb. 9, 1860, Caroline Neveau born to Alexandre Neveau and Mathilde Ledoun or Ledoux
I see in the first message the mention of Mathilda Neveau. Does anyone have on her and her family? I've been searching them for awhile but keep hitting deadends. Rick Hanson
1900 Census, Kankakee, Kankakee County, Illinois NEVEAU Mathilda, age 71, widow, 14 children, 10 still living in 1900 George age 35, son, Illinois Emory, age 27,son, Illinois Adlord, age 22, son, Illinois
Is this Alex Neveu? 1860 IL Kankakee St Ann Page 286 house 2164 family 2076 Alex Nevure 35 M Farmer Canada Mathilda " 32 F Canada " " 9 F IL Napoleon " 8 M IL Lesine " 5 M IL Seraphine " 3 F IL Caroline " 8/12 F IL -----Original Message----- From: Paula Lezotte [mailto:birds11@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:11 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] Neveu May 22, 1851, Mathilde Neveu daughter of Alexis Neveu and Mathilde Ledoux Godparents: Michael Ledoux and Catharine Sigau (Sigault) August 21, 1849, Alexis Neveu married Mathilda Ledoux in the presence of Jean Baptiste Hubert and Francois Boucher & Gabriel Lambert ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx
May 22, 1851, Mathilde Neveu daughter of Alexis Neveu and Mathilde Ledoux Godparents: Michael Ledoux and Catharine Sigau (Sigault) August 21, 1849, Alexis Neveu married Mathilda Ledoux in the presence of Jean Baptiste Hubert and Francois Boucher & Gabriel Lambert
In speaking of the Ledoux's, has anyone run across an Albert Ledoux>? He was listed as my Grandfathers 1/2 brother in my Grandfather, ( A. L. Lambert's ) obituary in 1955 in Concordia, Kansas. Albert did attend the funural. He was from Illino9is, probably Kankakee area. Gerry Lambert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Graveline" <abcg@bellsouth.net> To: <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette > Hello: > > I do not remember seeing this baptism today. It may be of interest. It > is from St John the Baptist Catholic Church, Record Book One compiled by > Norma Meier. > > 3 Jul 1864 baptism of Laure Ledou (Ledeau/Ledouox?) by Fr Cote > 22 Jun 1864 born to John Baptiste Ledou and Marie Parlle > Godparents: Frederick Bernier and Caroline Lemieux > > > richard graveline > Georgia > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined > Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: http:boards.ancestry.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > --- > [This E-mail Scanned for viruses by Onlinemac.com] > > > --- [This E-mail Scanned for viruses by Onlinemac.com]
It sure is fun when it goes like this! And, yes, you did tell me! They aren't just helpful, they're phenomenal! -----Original Message----- From: Chiniquy@aol.com [mailto:Chiniquy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:06 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ledoux/Ladoux and Payet/Payette In a message dated 4/27/05 12:57:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bob.powell2@comcast.net writes: > Thank you Carol Anne! > Hey Francis, I told you that the St Anne List people were helpful. Isn't genealogy fun <big grin> ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx
Wouldn't it mean the local public school? -----Original Message----- From: candismom@aol.com [mailto:candismom@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:58 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] RE: Regnier/Graveline Thanks! Next question. Any idea what Community School Teacher might mean in the context of those times? I am having trouble finding what happened to Pierre Beck as he doesn't appear in the 1870 census anywhere that I can find (wife does in Iroquois). While I can track much of the family and events for the 1860's and 1870's through church records he just seems to disappear. Pike's Peak? Now there is an interesting occupation! Rolayne -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Sweet <Mama.CAS@comcast.net> To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:24:39 -0500 Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] RE: Regnier/Graveline I looked at the entry. It lists his occupation as Com Sch Teach. I would guess that to be Community School Teacher. There were 2 living in Kankakee that year. Bourbonnias did not have St. Viatruse College listed that year. Another interesting occupation was that there were quite a number of young men whose occupation was listed as "gone to Pike's Peak". -Cyndi -----Original Message----- From: Candismom@aol.com [mailto:Candismom@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:50 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] RE: Regnier/Graveline My family is the Beck/Clouatre line but wondering if St. Viatruse College or Notre Dame Academy were functioning in 1860? Or any other known schools? My gggrandfather Pierre Beck is listed as "schoolteacher" in 1860 census? Anyone have any ideas? Rolayne Nelson ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: http:boards.ancestry.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx