Holly, Thank you very much. Your recommendation is exactly what I've been searching for - just didn't know how to go about finding all of this information. Norma Researching DELLIBAC, MONBLEAU, PECORE, SAINDON, TURTLE. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Forgue@webtv.net> To: <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 12:58 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Canadian Resouces Hi, This was sent to me and there are some great resources. I'm sending just the way it was received, hope it works ok for everyone. Holly <http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/queblib.txt > <A HREF="http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/queblib.txt"> <http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/index.html> ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hi,   This was sent to me and there are some great resources. I'm sending just the way it was received, hope it works ok for everyone. Holly <http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/queblib.txt >   <A HREF="http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/queblib.txt">    <http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/index.html>  

Thanks so much for the Boudreau/Richard lineage. I'll check it against mine. Thanks again. Karen

Here is a message received by me from RootsWeb-request - it had been sent by dforgue@cmh.edu. I am not sure why the message was diverted. Now it has a section to download , which may mean that it was originally too long for RootsWeb to handle in the usual way or that it came with a download and RootsWeb had to modify it for that reason. Here it is, without the download: > I hope I can help to some in regard to Matilde. Matilde(Matilda) was my > great grandmother and was married to Augustin FORGUES. She was the = > daughter > of Pierre Boudreau and Dorthee Tremblay. I am attaching her birth and > wedding records in both English and French. Note that Pierre had died = > prior > to the 1852 marriage although we have him dying in 1888 in Bourbonnais. = > Note > also the attendees at the wedding ceremony which should tell us that = > family > members we are concerned about are present. I also have the marriage of > Etienne and Marguerite Dupuis as 2 Feb 1778 with her birth as 1755. > Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Kwirsching@aol.com [mailto:Kwirsching@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:07 PM > To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Napoleon (at least two of them) Boudreau of > Kankakee, IL > Kathleen: Thanks for the info. The only question I have is the = > marriage of > Etienne and Marguerite Dupuis. She was born in 1775 and the children = > who > you=20 > have listed under Etienne and Marguerite were born when she was only 3 = > years > old. The Etienne=E2=80=99s get very confusing because there were so = > many of them. > What do you have as a birthdate for Marguerite? > Here=E2=80=99s some add-ons to your info: > Etienne (the first) was born in Beaubassin, Acadie (Nove Scotia), his = > wife=20 > Marie, was born in 1751 at Grand Pre, Acadie, she died about 1777. She = > was=2

DESCENDANCY CHART FOR PIERRE BOUDREAU - 2 May 2000 Page 1 of 1 ============================================================ ============================================== Name (Birth/Chr.-Death/Burial) Birth/Chr. Place ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------- 1-- Pierre BOUDREAU-128 (1723-1754) Baie des Mines,Acadia sp-Marie RICHARD-129 (1733- ) Beaubassin,Acadia 2-- Marie BOUDREAU-25 (1751-BEF1778) Grand Pre,Acadia sp-Etienne Boudreau-767 (1747- ) Beaubassin,Acadia 3-- Jean-Baptiste Boudreau-4949 (1772- ) 3-- Etienne II Boudreau-4950 (1774- ) 2-- Pierre (BOUDREAULT) BOUDREAU-58 (1754-1824) sp-Marie DUPUIS-59 (1764-1824) 3-- Pierre BOUDREAU-140 (1790-1816) sp-M.Anne Osithe CLOUATRE-141 ( - ) 3-- Louise BOUDREAU-503 (1791- ) sp-Paul PIEDALUE-692 ( - ) 3-- Marie Rose BOUDREAU-502 (1795- ) sp-Jean Baptiste GREGOIRE-691 ( - ) 3-- Elisabeth Boudreau-2317 (1796- ) 3-- David Boudreau-2316 (1797- ) 3-- Anastasie BOUDREAU-117 (1800- ) sp-BENONY CHAREST-142 ( - ) 3-- Marie BOUDREAU-27 (1803-1880) L'Acadie,St-Jean,Pq sp-Antoine LANGLOIS-26 (1798-1872) Canada sp-Marguerite LANDRY-777 ( - ) END

Vickie - Thanks for your enthusiasm and good wishes. The discoveries are always in the realm of miracles for me. I look forward to hearing about your family connections too. Best of gen luck to you, Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: Vickie Buettner <buetvsia@netins.net> To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:42 PM Subject: RE: [ILSTANNE] NAPOLEON & JOSEPHINE PARADIS BOUDREAU, KANKAKEE, IL m. 4/20/1874 >Just had to comment -- It is so richly rewarding to witness 'connections' >with families coming together even though they may be generations >apart...they are still family finding each other after all this time! I >only hope that someday I will also be able to experience this kind of >pleasure. I am so very happy for those of you who have had the chance(s). > Good luck to everyone else. > >It has been said that good things come to those who wait...... > > >Vickie Buettner > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kathleen Eaton [SMTP:keaton@stny.rr.com] >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 7:28 AM >To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] NAPOLEON & JOSEPHINE PARADIS BOUDREAU, KANKAKEE, IL >m. 4/20/1874 > >Thank you, Karen! > >So, that makes Pierre and Dorothy/Dorthee your g g g grandparents and my g >g >grandparents ... is that right? Napoleon is my grandfather, Luke/Luc my g >grandfather. And we are 'distant cousins'? > >If you would like to share information, I would be happy to. I can send a >privatized gen report from >Family Tree Maker, as an attachment. Others have been able to receive that. > >I am especially interested in times and locations of folks, as well as any >other information. My Boudreau's went to CA about the turn of the century - >1900. I have a photo with my g grandmother, grandmother and her siblings >in >that period. I do not know much about their IL family connections, other >than names and dates generously provided by others on the Boudreau List. >(Born in CA, I now live in NY state.) > >I have found the repetition of names a wonderful example of paradox - >confusing and helpful. > >Do you have any old photos of the ancestors? > >It all makes me very curious. > >Please advise if you would like to share more information. > >Thanks, again, > >Kathleen > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kwirsching@aol.com <Kwirsching@aol.com> >To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 9:42 PM >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] NAPOLEON & JOSEPHINE PARADIS BOUDREAU, KANKAKEE, >ILM. 4/20/1874 > > >>Hi Kathleen: Cyprien married to Pelagie are my g g grandparents. Seems >like >>these people always got stuck on a name and beat it to death. :-) >> >>Karen >> >> >>============================== >>Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >>RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >> >> > > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

My thanks to you, Karen! Always a bit confused ... However - I show Marguerite Dupuis as being born 1751. (I wonder where the '1775' came from?) Then the child of Etienne and Marguerite - Marguerite Boudreau - b. April 16, 1792. The Mathilde, another daughter of Etienne and Marguerite, I show b. 1832. My information in this area and upward (and some downward) came from the generous sharing of Don Boudreaux, with his data base of over 26,000 Boudreau's (w/6 or 7 different spellings). Thanks again for your additional help with other dates and locations. Am I correct in assumming that you have no information on the Napoleon m. Josephine Paradis? Are there other areas of IN besides Remington where your Boudreaus lived? Best to you .... I remain in a rather pleasantly confused state, Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: Kwirsching@aol.com <Kwirsching@aol.com> To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Napoleon (at least two of them) Boudreau of Kankakee, IL Kathleen: Thanks for the info. The only question I have is the marriage of Etienne and Marguerite Dupuis. She was born in 1775 and the children who you have listed under Etienne and Marguerite were born when she was only 3 years old. The Etienne’s get very confusing because there were so many of them. What do you have as a birthdate for Marguerite? Here’s some add-ons to your info: Etienne (the first) was born in Beaubassin, Acadie (Nove Scotia), his wife Marie, was born in 1751 at Grand Pre, Acadie, she died about 1777. She was the daughter of Pierre Boudrot and Marie Richard. Marguerite Dupuis was born in 1775 at Grand Pre, Acadie and they were married at Laprairie, QP. Pierre, the child of Etienne and Marguerite was born in 1794., he died 4-7-1888 in Bourbonnais, IL. His wife Dorothy Tremblay died 6-10-1864 in Bourbonnias, IL. Their children: Pierre died at St. Valentine, QP Cyprien (my gg grandfather) died 9-8-1905 in Remington, IN, his wife, Pelagie died 5-20-1908 in Remington, IN. Cyrille married Rose LaTour at St. Jean, QP, the date I have is 11-9-1863. I don’t even have Mathilde, are you sure she’s the daughter of Pierre and Dorothy? Do I have you completely confused now? :-) Karen ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

In a message dated 4/27/00 8:00:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jzewari@ix.netcom.com writes: << I am going through my STPIERRE families trying to resolve a discrepancy or a possible mispairing of individuals and I need your help. I will begin with the family of Maxime STPIERRE and Eleonore MARTIN who married 09/25/1848. I have 10 children listed for this couple. >> Bonjour Jan, What specifically are you looking for. Do you want verification that these are Maxime St Pierres children or do you need their birth or death dates?????? I would hate to type a bunch of stuff only to have you tell me that you already have it. Carol Anne

Kathleen: Thanks for the info. The only question I have is the marriage of Etienne and Marguerite Dupuis. She was born in 1775 and the children who you have listed under Etienne and Marguerite were born when she was only 3 years old. The Etienne’s get very confusing because there were so many of them. What do you have as a birthdate for Marguerite? Here’s some add-ons to your info: Etienne (the first) was born in Beaubassin, Acadie (Nove Scotia), his wife Marie, was born in 1751 at Grand Pre, Acadie, she died about 1777. She was the daughter of Pierre Boudrot and Marie Richard. Marguerite Dupuis was born in 1775 at Grand Pre, Acadie and they were married at Laprairie, QP. Pierre, the child of Etienne and Marguerite was born in 1794., he died 4-7-1888 in Bourbonnais, IL. His wife Dorothy Tremblay died 6-10-1864 in Bourbonnias, IL. Their children: Pierre died at St. Valentine, QP Cyprien (my gg grandfather) died 9-8-1905 in Remington, IN, his wife, Pelagie died 5-20-1908 in Remington, IN. Cyrille married Rose LaTour at St. Jean, QP, the date I have is 11-9-1863. I don’t even have Mathilde, are you sure she’s the daughter of Pierre and Dorothy? Do I have you completely confused now? :-) Karen

Hi All, I found a translation page that will allow you to translate an entire web page... no more cut and paste line by line. It can translate several languages including French. To check it out go to http://translator.go.com/cb/trans_entry I've even used the this translator when I'm communicating using ICQ and AOL communicator. It gets a bit tricky however my French isn't the best and I would hate to insult anyone in a live communication so I double check before sending the note... Also I thought I'd mention to the Boudreau researchers that I think I may be related... I have Boudreau, Tremblay and Landry in my tree. Timothé Tremblay married Florence Crepeau and had Allar Tremblay (and my great grandfather Maurice Tremblay who married Anna Marie (Maria) Martin daughter of Joseph Martin and Julie Landry) who married Cyprien Boudreau who gave birth to my great Uncle Henry Boudreau who didn't have any children. I have much more data... please contact me if you are interested and I'll send it along. Have a wonderful week and good luck in your searches Sincerely, Deborah in Beautiful British Columbia (it even says so on our automobile licence plates) SEARCHING TROMBLEY or TREMBLAY, Quebec, Alberta, British Columbia, Saskatchewan, CANADA; Kansas, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, California, New York, Louisiana, USA possibly Mexico... MARTIN, Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, CANADA; Kankakee and/or Petit Canada, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, USA CREPEAU, Quebec, CANADA; Washington, Kansas, USA LANDRY, Quebec, CANADA; Illinois; Kansas, USA BOUDREAU, Quebec, Canada; Kansas, USA; British Columbia, Canada GAY, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, USA GENNETTE/GANNETTE, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, USA BLANCHETTE, Kansas, USA Unknown Tremblay's web page... photo of Tremblay siblings circa 1938. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tremblay/index.html

THANKS BUNCHES! Used this a few years ago and forgot all about it!! Technology is simply amazing isn't it! Vickie Buettner -----Original Message----- From: NiteOwl226@aol.com [SMTP:NiteOwl226@aol.com] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:01 AM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] French Note Have you tried translating the French note with the aid of this site? <A HREF="http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate">AltaVista: Translations</A> http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate Audrey ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Karen - In response to your messages which included the following: ... Anyway, I don't know if we're related through Pierre and Dorothy. Pierre had Cyprien who married Pelagie Boudreau, their child was Napoleon who married Rosemary Turner (which could have been Latourneau). I have Luc as a brother to Cyprien and he was married toAurelie Landry. Cyprien and Pelagie had a son named Caliste who married Malvina Bourelle. They had a son named William who married Olivine Deno. It goes like this: Pierre and Dorothy Tremblay Cyprien and Pelagie Boudreau Caliste and Malvina Bourelle William and Olivine Deno I guess we would connect through Pierre and Dorothy. We split at the brothers Cyprien and Luc. Did Cyprien and Luc both have sons named Napoleon? These people kept naming their children after their brothers, parents, etc. and it sure is hard to sort out who belongs to whom, isn't it? What is the date of your Napoleon's birth? Mine was born 8-25-1858, in Kankakee, IL and died about 7-28-1941 and is buried in Goodland, IN. Is this the same guy do you think? More likely than not there will be names in that kind of thing that applies to more than the Boudreau researchers since all of those old French Canadien names are connected. It would be great if you would e-mail the FTM info to me and we'll figure out where we're related. I think it's at the Pierre and Dorothy level then we split with the brothers, Cyprien and Luc. Don't you? Karen ********************* Karen - Thanks for your information. Here is the information regarding the "Napoleon Connection" - it seems that they are 'first cousins' (?) - their father's were Luc/Luke and Cyprien. I have no further information on Napoleon who married Josephine Paradis - just the following birthdate and marriage date. Please advise - corrections, omissions, whatever applies. Pierre, Luc/Luke, Napoleon and Rose Boudreau (m. Heller), Virginia Heller (m. McLaughlin) and me, Kathleen. My best to you, Kathleen ********************8 Generation No. 4 4. ETIENNE4 BOUDREAU (ANSELME3, MICHEL2, MICHEL1 BOUDROT) was born 1747 in CANADA, and died Unknown. He married (1) MARIE BOUDROT June 10, 1771. She died Unknown. He married (2) MARGUERITE DUPUIS February 02, 1778. She died Unknown. Children of ETIENNE BOUDREAU and MARIE BOUDROT are: i. JEAN-BAPTISTE5 BOUDREAU, b. 1772; d. Unknown; m. MARIE GRANGER, February 11, 1793; d. Unknown. ii. ETIENNE BOUDREAU, b. 1774; d. Unknown; m. (1) CLOTHILDE BECHARD, January 12, 1795; d. Unknown; m. (2) MARIE LOUISE BOURASSA, July 02, 1804; d. Unknown. Children of ETIENNE BOUDREAU and MARGUERITE DUPUIS are: 5. iii. PIERRE5 BOUDREAU, d. Unknown. iv. ISABELLE BOUDREAU, b. December 20, 1778; d. Unknown; m. ALEX BREAU, October 06, 1800; d. Unknown. v. FIRMIN BOUDREAU, b. May 22, 1780; d. Unknown; m. MARIE URSULE HEBERT, November 19, 1804; d. Unknown. vi. JOSEPH BOUDREAU, b. August 17, 1781; d. Unknown; m. GENEVIEVE DUPUIS, November 25, 1822; d. Unknown. vii. MARIE MADELEINE BOUDREAU, b. September 13, 1785; d. Unknown; m. JEAN BAPTISTE MOISAN JR., February 21, 1814; d. Unknown. viii. JACQUES BOUDREAU, b. 1786; d. Unknown; m. (1) EMILIE LAFAILLE; d. Unknown; m. (2) SUZANNE AUDET, September 29, 1806; d. Unknown; m. (3) MAGDELEINE BOUDREAU, January 07, 1822; d. Unknown. ix. ROSE BOUDREAU, b. February 12, 1787; d. Unknown; m. PIERRE LECUYER, July 16, 1810; d. Unknown. x. MARGUERITE BOUDREAU, b. April 16, 1792; d. Unknown; m. PIERRE ZACHARIE LAREAU, April 1820; d. Unknown. xi. JEAN MARIE BOUDREAU, b. October 31, 1793; d. Unknown; m. MARIE JOSETTE LANOUE, February 12, 1816; d. Unknown. Generation No. 5 5. PIERRE5 BOUDREAU (ETIENNE4, ANSELME3, MICHEL2, MICHEL1 BOUDROT) died Unknown. He married DOROTHEE DOROTHY TREMBLAY September 18, 1815. She died Unknown. Children of PIERRE BOUDREAU and DOROTHEE TREMBLAY are: i. PIERRE6 BOUDREAU, b. July 04, 1816; d. Unknown; m. MARGUERITE LAREAU, June 05, 1838; d. Unknown. ii. HENRIETTE BOUDREAU, b. February 10, 1821; d. Unknown. iii. CYPRIEN BOUDREAU, b. 1823; d. Unknown; m. PELAGIE BOUDREAU, November 23, 1847; d. Unknown. 6. iv. LUKE LUC BOUDREAU, b. April 10, 1828, Montreal, Quebec, Canada; d. April 28, 1905, Kankakee IL. v. CYRILLE BOUDREAU, b. 1830; d. Unknown; m. ROSE LA TOUR, October 11, 1852; d. Unknown. vi. MATHILDE BOUDREAU, b. 1832; d. Unknown; m. AUGUSTIN FOUGERE, September 27, 1852; d. Unknown. Generation No. 6 6. LUKE LUC6 BOUDREAU (PIERRE5, ETIENNE4, ANSELME3, MICHEL2, MICHEL1 BOUDROT) was born April 10, 1828 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, and died April 28, 1905 in Kankakee IL. He married AURELIE LANDRY February 11, 1850 in St. Valentin, Quebec, CAN, daughter of JEAN-BAPTISTE LANDRY and ELIZABETH LETOURNEAU. She was born March 21, 1830 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, and died October 08, 1917 in Kankakee IL. Children of LUKE BOUDREAU and AURELIE LANDRY are: i. ELIZA BOUDREAU, b. 1852, Canada; d. Unknown. ii. ARELIA BOUDREAU, b. 1854, Canada; d. Unknown. 7. iii. NAPOLEON BOUDREAU, b. March 01, 1855, Bourbonnis, Kankakee Co., IL; d. Unknown. iv. BELSIMERE BOUDREAU, b. 1860, Illinois; d. Unknown. v. JOSEPHINE BOUDREAU, b. 1863, Illinois; d. Unknown. vi. ADELINE BOUDREAU, b. July 20, 1864, Bourbonnis, St. George, Kankakee, IL; d. Unknown. vii. AGNES BOUDREAU, b. 1869, Illinois; d. Unknown. viii. OLIVER BOUDREAU, b. 1872, Illinois; d. Unknown. ix. PHILLIP BOUDREAU, b. 1874, Indiana; d. Unknown. x. IDA BOUDREAU, b. 1877, Indiana; d. Unknown. Generation No. 7 7. NAPOLEON7 BOUDREAU (LUKE LUC6, PIERRE5, ETIENNE4, ANSELME3, MICHEL2, MICHEL1 BOUDROT) was born March 01, 1855 in Bourbonnis, Kankakee Co., IL, and died Unknown. He married JOSEPHINE PARADIS April 20, 1874 in Kankakee IL. She was born Abt. 1854 in maybe Canada or IL, and died 1925 in Stockton CA. More About NAPOLEON BOUDREAU: Alias: Mrrg. lisc says Napolion Boudrrot More About JOSEPHINE PARADIS: Children of NAPOLEON BOUDREAU and JOSEPHINE PARADIS are: 8. i. DELLA8 BOUDREAU, b. Abt. 1875, Kankakee IL; d. Unknown. ii. HENRY BOUDREAU, b. Abt. 1876, Kankakee IL; d. 1977, Oaklanda CA. iii. JOSEPH BOUDREAU, b. Abt. 1877, Kankakee IL; d. Unknown, Fruitvale CA. iv. VALIDA BOUDREAU, b. Abt. 1878, Kankakee IL; d. Unknown, Kankakee IL. 9. v. ROSE DELIMA BOUDREAU, b. January 11, 1882, Kankakee Illinois; d. March 14, 1975, Stockton CA. 10. vi. AGNES BOUDREAU, b. Abt. 1884, Kankakee IL; d. Unknown, Oakland CA. vii. ADELOR BOUDREAU, b. Abt. 1890, Kankakee IL; d. Unknown; m. ALICE; d. Unknown. It is Luc/Luke's marriage to Aurelie Landry where we might have some sort of double connection ... with Cyprien's son, Napoleon who married Rosemary Turner/Latourneau ... which might be Letourneau which is the surname of Aurelie's mother, Elizabeth Letourneau m. Jean-Baptiste Landry. ******************8 Accepting that it is confusing ...

Have you tried translating the French note with the aid of this site? <A HREF="http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate">AltaVista: Translations</A> http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate Audrey

Hi, Ginny suggested that I post to the list the reason that I had that original note, is because my gggrandfather was Dr. DeMars, Who was a St. Anne resident and good friend of the Boudreaus and Father Chinoquy, which would explain why I have it. Jerrian

I know this site is in french but go to the index on on the left chick on Mariages de Longueuil. All the names are in english.http://www.club-genealogie-longueuil.qc/ca/cadres/index_cadre.html - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.

Jerrian, What a fantastic find! Phoebe Cyr Boudreau and Julian Boudreau are my husband's GGGrandparents. I am very interested in a copy of whatever you have - and it would be wonderful if someone could translate it. Thanks so much, Joanne Boudreau "Jerrian D. Barsness" wrote: > Hello List, Been going through things I have, again today, and ran across an > old piece of paper. It is written in French by Father Chinoquy, and I can't > read French, but it has something to do with the exhumation of the body of > Phoebe Boudreau, spouse of Julian Boudreau, Circa, 1850. Perhaps something > to do with a quarrantine??? St. Anne, Kankakee, Illinois. Signed by Charles > Chinoquy. I'm just guessing as to the contents, but if someone would like > me to see if I can scan it to them, using JPG, I would try to do that. > Jerrian > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

In a message dated 4/30/00 7:25:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, VCrawf@aol.com writes: << I know that Carol Anne has transcribed some old news articles about this murder - of her very own great-grandparents! - and one time did send them out to the St. Anne group. Perhaps she would be willing to send the articles again. It is an amazing story - and the crime was never solved. I have some clippings too, but will defer to Carol Anne as the victims were in her direct line. >> Bonjour listers, I have run this story one before, but will re-run it for some of the new members. The story of the murders is also in The Saga of St. Anne and will be on the new web site shortly. I sent the same story to the publisher of the Le Bourgeois newsletter and it was published in their April edition. ****************************************************************************** ******************* The following account of the murder of my great grandparents, Emile Chiniquy and Victorine Bourgeois was copied from an article written on April 23, 1996 by Mary Ellen Smith and published in The Herald’s Country Market of Bourbonnis, Illinois. Although the murder occured on Oct, 1898, there are still articles written about this very brutal murder. It was Kankakee County’s “most brutal slaughter” It was simply meant to be an overnight visit between friends; a favor in fact. Victorine Chiniquy was trying to spare Eliza Marcotte a trip home over muddy October roads. Neither woman could have guessed the outcome. Victorine was the wife of Emile Chiniquy, a nephew of St Anne’s controversial founder, Charles Chiniquy. The couple had moved to the village from Kankakee just two months earlier and now occupied one of the most elegant houses in town. Emile owned and operated a butcher shop in St Anne’s business districk and rented out the family farm northwest of town. It was Eliza Marcotte’s husband, Rene, who worked that land for Emile. Monday, October 17, 1898, began as an ordinary day. Rene brought his wife and daughter, Alice, into town for groceries. On the way home, the family stopped by to visit the Chiniquy’s. Vistorine persuaded her friend to spend the night since Eliza was planning to attend mass early the next morning anyway. Alice stayed with her mother, while Rene took the supplies home. After dinner had been eaten and the dishes done, the Marcottes retired to a guest room on the second floor of the Chiniquy Home. The couple’s three sons, 20-year -old Dolph, 12 year-old Oscar and 9-year-old Emile Jr., also had rooms on the second floor. Victorine and Emile occupied a bedroom on the first floor, just off the kitchen. About 4 or 5 a.m., little Alice Marcotte heard a noise she later described as sounding “like a vase moving across the floor.” Otherwise, the house and everyone in it, was quiet. Eliza Marcotte rose early the following morning to prepare for mass. She wanted to thank her hosts brfore she left, so knocked softly on their bedroom door. There was no answer. She tried again. Still no luck. Eliza called up the stairs for Dolph, the eldest Chiniquy son. When Dolph opened the door to his parent’s bedroom, Eliza’s breath caught in her throat. The paper-covered walls of the room were splattered with the blood of Victorine and Emile Chiniquy. Newspaper accounts of the day called the crime the “most brutal slaughter in the history of Kankakee County.” A reporter from the Kankakee Gazette was one of the few people allowed to enter the Chiniquy home immediately following the discovery of the murder. He described what he saw for the readers: “When the door of the bedroom was opened, Mrs Chiniquy could be seen lying on the floor face downward, her feet towards the door. A great pool of blood, fully two feet square, was near her hand. On the south side of the bed with one foot resting on the bed rail, was the body of Emile Chiniquy. His head and shoulders were on the floor and his face turned upward. The body was partly wrapped in a blanket. Several great gashes caused by some sharp instrument made the bloody face look horrible. The frontal bones of the skull were crushed to a pulp. The clothing had been disarranged and the matress had been pulled up until it curled over at the head of the bed. Large splashes of blood were discovered on the wallpaper near the bed, on the ceiling and in one corner fully fifteen feet from the head of the bed. “After placing the bodies in fair shape, (authorities) went from the room and a search was made of the premises. The family ax and hatchet were found undisturbed in their usual place and in usual conditions. A bloody towel was found in the kitchen on the sink. A pane of glass was missing from the east window pf the kitchen. The glass was found broken in the grass under the window. A large wooden flower box containing a wax plant was located under this window. The top of the box was nearly level with the window sill. The imprint of a man’s knee was plainly noticed on the soft earth of the box. The party who entered the house must have worn fine diagonal-weave clothes. The absence of the cleavers mentioned by one of the (Chiniquy) children appears to indicate that one of them was probably used to commit the crime.” Bloodhounds were called in from Indiana. No suspects could be found, however. Even a motive was hard to come by. Everyone in town knew that Emile Chiniquy didn’t keep large sums of money in his home and as far as anyone could tell, nothing had been taken during the crime. Chiniquy was also not known to have had any enemies or to be involved in any shady dealings. At length, an arrest was made. The day of the murder, a stranger had been seen in the St Anne tavern of Gasper Marceau., Chiniquy’s son-in-law. The man had watched closely as Marceau pulled a large roll of bills from his pocket to pay off a debt and, later, the man asked a boy on the street where Marceau lived. The boy mistakenly told the stranger “the seventh house down”: the Chiniquy house. The man was brought to trial but was acquitted when his attorney produced evidence that he was in jail in Danville the night of the murders. The crime went unsolved. The Chiniquy boys went to live with their sister. Their parent’s possessions were auctioned off and the house where the murderes took place was closed. A year after the killings, the youngest son, Emile Jr., drowned. Hoping to escape the past, the rest of the family left St Anne and moved to California. For many years the Chiniquy house remained empty. St Anne children, afraid to even pass by, gave it a wide berth during play times and on their way to and from school. Eventually, however, newcomers employed by the town’s wheel works did make it their home. Perhaps the tragedy of the past was not as real to them as to those who had lived through it. (Editor’s note: The Chiniquy house was torn down during the early 1950’s to make room for the more modern home which now occupies its site on the southeast cornor of Station Street and Sixth Avenue.

In a message dated 04/30/2000 12:28:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, buetvsia@netins.net writes: << This may be of interest to several in the St. Anne's group. -- especially if you can read French! LOL :-) >> Kicking myself for taking Spanish instead of French, but a lot of things can be figured out and there are on line language dictionaries that help.

In a message dated 4/30/2000 7:11:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Rab71EIU@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 04/30/2000 10:00:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MARO2ME@aol.com writes: << << Chiniquy axe murders (somewhat later in time, of course). >> ?????? Tell us the story >> Yes, you have my attention. Do tell. >> CALLING CAROL ANNE CHINIQUY! I know that Carol Anne has transcribed some old news articles about this murder - of her very own great-grandparents! - and one time did send them out to the St. Anne group. Perhaps she would be willing to send the articles again. It is an amazing story - and the crime was never solved. I have some clippings too, but will defer to Carol Anne as the victims were in her direct line. Ginny

In a message dated 04/30/2000 10:00:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MARO2ME@aol.com writes: << << Chiniquy axe murders (somewhat later in time, of course). >> ?????? Tell us the story >> Yes, you have my attention<g> Do tell.