<< Was the alter lit at St. Rose? >> We got there rather late at night and the church was dark and locked. As we walked around the outside a car pulled up and asked what we were doing. The man in the car turned out to be the Asst. Pastor and was very interested when we told him we were a genealogy group attending the St Anne Pumpkin Fest. He asked us to wait a few minutes, while he parked his car, and entered the rear of the church. He unlocked the front doors, and turned on all of the lights. Then he spent a considerable amount of time showing us everything, and talking about church history, etc. We couldn't have planned it better. I have belonged to a rather modest (by comparison) Lutheran church my entire life. The building is only 60 years. I must say, I fully appreciate the beauty of these old ornate churches. Their statuary is lifesize and look as if they could reach down and touch you. Audrey

In a message dated 5/30/00 8:20:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time, DaSinga31@aol.com writes: << I don't know if they have changed in their attitude, but that has been the attitude I ran up against when trying to do research on my Kankakee ancestors. I know more about my ancestors in Québec than I do about them in Kankakee! >> Brenda is quite correct in her assessment of St. Rose Church personnel. I, and others, have had a great deal of trouble in trying to get any help at all as far as their records are concerned. Records of several grandparents and gr. grandparents and gr. gr. grandparents are contained at St. Rose. A few years ago, my husband and I went to the office to try to get the records of my grandparents marriage. I had the date and everything. We were met with extreme rudeness on the part of the individuals working there, and we left unable to believe we had been treated so badly because of such a simple request. When we arrived home, I wrote a letter to Bishop Imesh in Joliet. It was only after a letter was sent to St. Rose from the Bishop's office, that I received from St. Rose the information I had requested. I've not been in any hurry to try and find any further information from that church. It's a real shame, because as Brenda mentioned, they have some very old records. Like Brenda, I too, have had much more success and have encountered nothing but friendly and helpful people in the churches of Quebec. I can only hope St. Rose has changed its attitude.......because what I ran up against was certainly far from a Christian attitude. Myrna

I have a complaint about St. Rose's, though. Yes, they may have a nice church, but they are VERY reluctant to help genealogists. My great-grandfather, his parents and his grandparents are buried there, but sadly the grandparents don't have headstones, so I can't find information through the cemetary on when they died. I thankfully saw a snip in the KVGS newsletter about a probate notice on my gr-gr-gr-grandfather's estate, and so I was able to find out when he died and that he is buried at St. Rose, but I wasn't able to get a copy of the death record until one day a new woman was working in the office and she was very kind and photocopied the death record in the books. But I still have not been able to find out when gr-gr-gr-grandmother died. >From what I understand they won't do the research without a substantial amount of money (per person or per record), they won't let a genealogist go through the old books because they're "falling apart" and they have "private information" in them. Yet, they won't do anything to preserve what information is in the books, either -- and that is one of the oldest churches in Kankakee County -- they have records predating most of the County records. I don't know if they have changed in their attitude, but that has been the attitude I ran up against when trying to do research on my Kankakee ancestors. I know more about my ancestors in Québec than I do about them in Kankakee! Sorry for venting, Brenda

Was the alter lit at St. Rose? We attended mass there last April when we were in Kankakee. It is indeed breathtaking. Karen

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I was really impressed with St Rose of Lima in Kankakee. Dave King took our St Anne group on a tour last Sept and St Rose was just spectacular. If any of our group are in the area it is a magnificent "don't miss" church to add to your list of places to visit. I am always amazed at the old churches that were built without modern construction equipment. They really surpass any of the new modern churches that are being built. The domed ceilings, woodwork, stain glass, etc are breathtaking. I agree with RAB (Anita) that it gives you a feeling of awe to know your ancestors had attended these churches over 100 years ago. Even the quaint little country churches have a real charm. Audrey

In a message dated 05/30/2000 11:40:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, VCrawf@aol.com writes: << < Just a correction before it becomes confusing to others, the Catholic = > Church in St. Anne is St. Anne Catholic Church, not St. John's- St. John = > the BaptistCatholic Church is in L'Erable,Illinois ardis >> >>

Ardis wrote to clarify: << Just a correction before it becomes confusing to others, the Catholic = > Church in St. Anne is St. Anne Catholic Church, not St. John's- St. John = > the BaptistCatholic Church is in L'Erable,Illinois ardis >> Thanks, Ardis! And renewed thanks to our own NiteOwl226, who found the postcards. I see that the first one was written by someone named "Albert" - could not quite get the last name. The second (the church) could actually be read! The writer says he has been busy going to church and will write soon. Yep. Salut to all, Ginny

Audrey and anyone else interested in pictures of St. John's Catholic Church in St. Anne, I still have pictures in my camera from my trip to Illinois in March. I took almost a whole roll at the church. When I get them dceveloped I will post the best or e-mail to anyone that wants them. The church is really beautiful. It was really cool walking down the aisle that you know your parents, your grandparents, and your great-grandparents walked. Rab

There are 2 old St Anne postcards being offered on E-Bay. Click on the blue link or type in the URL. #1 <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=341418121"> eBay item 341418121 (Ends May-31-00 23:57:41 PDT) - St. ANNE IL Illinois 1909; </A> Sleepy Station St. 1909 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=341418121 #2 <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=343156501"> eBay item 343156501 (Ends Jun-03-00 12:31:13 PDT) - St Anne's Church St Anne IL</A> Interior of Church 1912 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=343156501 Some providers, like AOL will allow you to "right click" and save the image. Both of these cards were mailed and there are messages written on the back. You might be able to read them on the screen. Take a peek at the site to see old St Anne. I am saving a copy of the church interior to put with my husband's grandmother's St Anne Baptism record. Audrey

Hi everyone... I just read the attached email and low and behold I saw the name of my great great grandfather Joseph MARTIN... Is there any further information on the individual? I know it's a common name but I can't let any possibility slide by as he is rather elusive. Any help would be greatly appreciated .... Sincerely, Deborah BC, Canada SEARCHING TROMBLEY or TREMBLAY, Quebec, Alberta, British Columbia, Saskatchewan, CANADA; Kansas, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, California, New York, Louisiana, USA possibly Mexico... MARTIN, Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, CANADA; Kankakee and/or Petit Canada, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, USA CREPEAU, Quebec, CANADA; Washington, Kansas, USA LANDRY, Quebec, CANADA; Illinois; Kansas, USA BOUDREAU, Quebec, Canada; Kansas, USA; British Columbia, Canada GAY, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, USA GENNETTE/GANNETTE, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, USA BLANCHETTE, Kansas, USA WAGNER, Vancouver, Washington, USA WADE, Vancouver, Washington, USA and Portland, Oregon, USA BAILEY, Glendale, Washington, USA Unknown Tremblay's web page... photo of Tremblay siblings circa 1938. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tremblay/index.html -----Original Message----- From: VCrawf@aol.com [mailto:VCrawf@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 7:57 PM To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSTANNE] inquiry re first board members of CCC Greetings, St. Anners. I'm forwarding a special request from our member=20 Bishop Serge Theriault (satheriault@sprint.ca) of the Christian Catholic=20 Church. You will recall that Dr. Charles P. T. Chiniquy was instrumental in founding= =20 the Christian Catholic Church after he left the Roman Catholic church; other= s=20 who served on the first Board of Directors of the CCC were: MICHEL ALLAIS D=C9SIR=C9 DROLET GEORGES GAUTHIER MO=CFSE LANGELIER JOSEPH MARTIN LOUIS MERCIER ABRAHAM PELLETIER ANSELME ROBILLARD THOMAS LORTIE At the Bishop's request, I sent a copy of a photograph of Achille Chiniquy=20 [Board secretary] to the church for its archives. Bishop Theriault=20 responded: =20 <<<It was very moving for all of us to see the picture of Mr. Achille=20 Chiniquy, who was Secretary of the First CCC Board. I was wondering: is there a way we can find the photographs of the other members of the first Board: [and he lists the names given above] >>>> Those are all St. Anne names, of course! I hope some of you will recognize= =20 them and will be able to identify them in photographs. I had my photograph= =20 of Achille enlarged and printed on heavy SEPIA stock at Kinko's - it wasn't= =20 expensive and looked great! I know the Bishop will appreciate any photos=20 and/or information you can send him about these first-signers [of the=20 foundation document]. It seems most of us have an interest in the early=20 days of this church and its influence on our St. Anne families, so it would=20 be nice if your replies to the Bishop would be sent via the list.=20 Salut to all! Ginny Administrator - ILSTANNE-L Carmel Valley CA USA VCrawf@aol.com ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Greetings, St. Anners. I'm forwarding a special request from our member=20 Bishop Serge Theriault (satheriault@sprint.ca) of the Christian Catholic=20 Church. You will recall that Dr. Charles P. T. Chiniquy was instrumental in founding= =20 the Christian Catholic Church after he left the Roman Catholic church; other= s=20 who served on the first Board of Directors of the CCC were: MICHEL ALLAIS D=C9SIR=C9 DROLET GEORGES GAUTHIER MO=CFSE LANGELIER JOSEPH MARTIN LOUIS MERCIER ABRAHAM PELLETIER ANSELME ROBILLARD THOMAS LORTIE At the Bishop's request, I sent a copy of a photograph of Achille Chiniquy=20 [Board secretary] to the church for its archives. Bishop Theriault=20 responded: =20 <<<It was very moving for all of us to see the picture of Mr. Achille=20 Chiniquy, who was Secretary of the First CCC Board. I was wondering: is there a way we can find the photographs of the other members of the first Board: [and he lists the names given above] >>>> Those are all St. Anne names, of course! I hope some of you will recognize= =20 them and will be able to identify them in photographs. I had my photograph= =20 of Achille enlarged and printed on heavy SEPIA stock at Kinko's - it wasn't= =20 expensive and looked great! I know the Bishop will appreciate any photos=20 and/or information you can send him about these first-signers [of the=20 foundation document]. It seems most of us have an interest in the early=20 days of this church and its influence on our St. Anne families, so it would=20 be nice if your replies to the Bishop would be sent via the list.=20 Salut to all! Ginny Administrator - ILSTANNE-L Carmel Valley CA USA VCrawf@aol.com

I just thought of something. So that I don't accidentally delete a request for translating from French to English, it would probably be helpful if you put in the subject line: "French to English Translation" or something like that so that I know what it is. :o) Brenda Hébert

I also am fairly fluent in French. (at least I've been complimented by French speakers on my French). :o) I can try to help anyone that needs a translation. Brenda Hébert

Hi Ginny, It is a death cert. for Phoebe Cyr Boudreau. It has been translated, and I sent the original certificate to Joanne. If you would like the translation, let me know and I'll send it to your email account. Jerrian

Re: It is written in French by Father Chinoquy, and I can't read French Our own member Ardis Boone transcribed Father Chiniquy's Ledger. I believe she is probably the "expert" on his handwritting. Audrey

In a message dated 4/29/2000 8:42:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jdbs@uslink.net writes: << old piece of paper. It is written in French by Father Chinoquy, and I can't read French, but it has something to do with the exhumation of the body o >> Greetings, gang! Did anyone ever translate and/or figure out this document? I'd love to know what the result was. Many thanks for any info. Ginny

Holly, Thank you for the urls - Canadian Resources book and more CAN info. What a wealth of information. It will certainly be ongoingly helpful to at least have an idea of the locations and contents of the many, many, many museums, libraries and research sites. Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: Forgue@webtv.net <Forgue@webtv.net> To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:04 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Canadian Resouces Hi, This was sent to me and there are some great resources. I'm sending just the way it was received, hope it works ok for everyone. Holly <http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/queblib.txt > <A HREF="http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/queblib.txt"> <http://www.oz.net/~johnbang/genealogy/index.html> ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hi Kathleen: I've not forgotten about you and still have your last e-mail saved so I can answer you. My friend and I went to Chicago week before last and then my husband had hernia surgery last week so it's left little time for anything else. I promise to get back to you, hang on. :-) Karen

Hello, Karen! Just began to wonder if you have any additional information on Napoleon and Rosemary ... m. date, children, locations, etc.? Also wondering from what line Pelagie Boudreau (married name or maiden name?) comes? I believe that the Cyprien would be my 2nd great granduncle. Thanks for your help. Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: Kwirsching@aol.com <Kwirsching@aol.com> To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] NAPOLEON & JOSEPHINE PARADIS BOUDREAU, KANKAKEE, ILM. 4/20/1874 >Hi Kathleen: Cyprien married to Pelagie are my g g grandparents. Seems like >these people always got stuck on a name and beat it to death. :-) > >Karen > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >