Listers - you may respond either to the list or to Christina directly re her inquiry - she will join us on our list for a bit in hopes of some answers. << Subj: {not a subscriber} List Date: 8/2/2000 3:58:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: nikitacujo@yahoo.com (Christina floyd) To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com I am new at this so please bear with me. I am trying to find anything on an Arthur H. Schultz b. Nov. 9, 1900; d. Sept. 1959. He had two sisters >>
Subj: {not a subscriber} List Date: 8/2/2000 3:58:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: nikitacujo@yahoo.com (Christina floyd) To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com I am new at this so please bear with me. I am trying to find anything on an Arthur H. Schultz b. Nov. 9, 1900; d. Sept. 1959. He had two sisters who never married. Their names were Genevieve and Marie Schultz. Arthur had three sons whose names were/are James, Gerald, and Jackie Lee. I know that Jackie married Sharon Kay Regnier June 20, 1959 at St. Marys Church in Beaverville. That wedding announcement was in the Kankakee Sunday Journal on June 28,1959. I have been told that Arthur was accidently shot and killed by a 14 year old boy who while dove hunting saw movement and mistook my great grandpa for a dove. This is all that I know about this family. If anyone has any information please let me know. Thanks. Christina Floyd
Hi there: The Bovies have created a new free photo site at Photopoint.com to feature St. Anne area memorabilia, people, places and things. We encourage all of you to view the two dozen photos already in place. And also hope many of you will upload additional photos for the enjoyment of all. To access the site click on this hyperlink: <A HREF="http://www.photopoint.com/">PhotoPoint - Easily create and share free web photo albums</A> or go to www.photopoint.com When the first screen displays, about 1/2 way down the page on the left side you'll see a box under "View Member's Albums," in the box enter...... <bobbovie@aol.com> which is one of our e-mail addresses. Without the <&> Click on the "View" button to advance to the next screen. There you'll see a listing of a 5 or 6 albums. Click on an album name to view the pictures. Other site navigation is pretty well self-explanatory. When you get to a single picture page please click on the "Add comment" button and enter a message so I'll know you were successful. If this doesn't work for you please send us a message at either of our e-mail addresses noting any error messages you might receive. The process to upload photos to this site is relatively simple. Instructions are available in the site's help area. Additionally, we'll provide guidance to anyone who inquires. We'd be happy to scan and upload photos for any of you who don't have a scanner or otherwise digitized photos. Cheers Sandra & Bob Bovie Lancaster, PA
Sandy. I will try and keep a list on file, if any one even thinks they may make it. Ardis ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sandy2B@aol.com> To: <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:34 PM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Re: Pumpkin Festival > Hello there: > > The Bovies might be able attend this year's Festival. If so, how might we > know if other ILSTANNE folks are also participating? > > Sandra & Bob Bovie > Lancaster, PA > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >
ardymae@theramp.net writes: << I will try and keep a list on file, if any one even thinks they may make it. Ardis >> Last year, we created an eMail list of those who thought they might be able to make it to the Pumpkin Fest - talked among ourselves about accomodations, first-night-dinner, libraries, and so on. It worked very well. Several of us were in one hotel - the Holiday Inn just off the freeway at Bourbonnais - and others in another nice hotel nearby. I think it might be more fun to all stay in one place, and I would recommend the Bourbonnais Holiday Inn as reasonably priced and very nice. We also used its lobby as a meeting place to spread out files, etc. - no competition for the space between 10 PM and midnight, when we wanted it! (This was after the first-night-dinner, which was at an excellent spot just down the road.) More anon. Salut! Ginny list owner/administrator - ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com
I was wondering if all or part of the Saga of St. Anne has been made available yet? If so, how can we find it? Re: St. Anne Pumpkin Festival. Don and I will be able to make it there for at least one day of the festival if it doesn't conflict with a possible trip to San Francisco in Sept. It's hard to believe that almost a year has past since the last Pumpkin Festival "get together"! Holly
In a message dated 8/1/00 9:21:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Forgue@webtv.net writes: << I was wondering if all or part of the Saga of St. Anne has been made available yet? If so, how can we find it? >> Only an small part has been typed up and is now on the web page. It is taking longer then I thought, but we'll get it finished some day <G> <A HREF="http://www.kvgs.org/stannetwp/saga/">The Saga of St. Anne</A> Carol Anne
Hello there: The Bovies might be able attend this year's Festival. If so, how might we know if other ILSTANNE folks are also participating? Sandra & Bob Bovie Lancaster, PA
In a message dated 8/1/2000 5:00:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nikitacujo@yahoo.com writes: << From: nikitacujo@yahoo.com (Christina floyd) - not a subscriber To: ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com I am researching the Schultz family of St. Anne and need help with some information. Thanks Christina Floyd --------------------------------- >> Christina - we'll need some particulars from you - dates, full names, etc. We can't do much otherwise. St. Anners - if you can help, please contact Christine directly at her eMail address. Salut to all: Ginny Crawford listowner
St. Anners - here's an important message from our own Ardis Boone (ardymae@theramp.net) of St. Anne. She writes: << Ginny, Will you please put out a message to the St. Anne Group about the St. Anne Pumpkin Fest on the 22, 23 & 24 of September, 2000. Want to see if there is any interest at all in having a get together again. We are all busy working on the 150 year celebration. Although in my mind it should not be until about 1855, not many people in St Anne area in 1850. This past week Vic Johnson had an article in the KKK paper entitled "Settlements and Parishes: Monsieur Chiniquy's Colony". Although I do not agree on some of his writings, I will save it. It is to be continued in next Sunday's paper. >>> Ginny says: anyone else within reach of the Kankakee paper - please save these articles! Some one of us will want to keep them. Thank you! And if we can do the Pumpkin Fest, it would be great. Any interest out there??? Well, I KNOW there is interest; a better question would be "anyone got TIME to play hookey in September????" Salut, from Ginny
Does anyone in the group know who the pts or ancestors are of Antoine Arpin, husband of Clémence Levasseur (b. 9 Jul 1808 Boucherville, QC), dau. of Jean-Baptiste Levasseur dit Carmel and Marie Chauvin?
Does anyone have a contact address for Gaston Beaupré of St.-Vianney de Matapédia, Québec, another descendant of Ignace Beaupré, who was ancestor of the Beaupre clan of St. Anne? N.B.: Beaupre de St. Anne not to be confused with Ste.-Anne de Beaupré. Pas de tout!
Hello, St. Anners: wmcauth00@juno.com - not a subscriber - writes: All, Does SKS know when & where Tom Adamsick's 2 Volume "Pictorial History of Early Peotone, IL" will be made available. Walter >> If you can help, please reply to Walter directly at his eMail address. Ginny
There is mention of a Lafontaine daughter having married a Mr. Blanchette. I wonder if it is not related in some ways with Charles Alphonse Blanchette who was consecrated Christian Catholic Bishop in 1926, see city Portland, Oregon. If I remember well he died in Beaverton, OR. Bishop Theriault
MY APOLOGIES, St. Anne interest group - I was mistaken in remembering that the Rev. Chiniquy's niece was a nun; she was simply one of the Chiniquys who had stayed with the Roman Catholic church and happened to live in Montreal. If you are saving these transcriptions and commentary, PLEASE CHUCK THE FIRST PART ONE THAT I SENT AND REPLACE IT WITH THIS ONE. THANKS ! [begin corrected letter] Here's the article I promised Bill la Fountain some time ago - didn't find it till this minute. It had been given me by my cousin Margaret Bedard along with other papers. But I think most everyone will be interested, since this is part of the continuing story of the division of the St. Anne area community due to Fr. C.P.T. Chiniquy's rejection of the Roman Catholic church (and its rejection of him) and his establishment of the Christian Catholic Church in 1859. It is probably not surprising that those who blamed Chiniquy for the upheaval and ill will and family acrimony and feuds that were the results of those actions would like to have seen Chiniquy recant and repent and want to return to the RC church. The Church, too, had a vested interest in showing that Chiniquy subsequently realized he had been wrong and a failure as a leader and that he now feared the torments of a Roman Catholic hell. Well, it developed that one of Chas. Chiniquy's nieces, a daughter of Achille Chiniquy, lived in Montreal. This was my Aunt Arthemise, who had married George Parent. The story went that she was instructed [by whom?] to try to gain entry to the Montreal location where the Rev. Chiniquy was thought to be on his deathbed, in the hope and expectation that she could be a witness to his recanting the faith he had embraced and seeking again to embrace Roman Catholicism. I'll return to this story later, as I have some papers that relate to her visits. To end any suspense: Charles Chiniquy maintained to the end his faith in the protestant beliefs he had outlined in founding the new church, and he died peacefully in his bed, full of years (90) and honors. But anyway, there were those who pursued the very members of the Christian Catholic Church (which in its St. Anne identity became Presbyterian) to see if any would turn back to their old beliefs when death approached. The newspapers, which at that time could and did print just about anything without fear of reprisal, were hungry for this kind of stuff and were not above inventing it where reality did not provide enough zing. (Wasn't this around the time the Hearst papers single-handedly manufactured the Spanish-American War out of whole cloth?) Of course, some of what the papers wrote might actually have been true. So now you have the background for what this clipping tells us about the Rev. La Fountaine - who is not related to Bill of this list, so far as I understand, but for the co-incidence of the surname. The clipping is dated 18 March 1903, Kankakee Daily Republic. But I've gone on too long and will have to send you part 2 tomorrow. [end corrected letter]
from the Saturday, March 18, 1903 edition (front page) of the Kankakee Daily Republic. [correction: not "reporter" as given yesterday] [BEGIN QUOTED MATERIAL] [great big headline] RETURNS TO OLD FAITH [sub-big headline] Missing Ex-St. Anne Priest Reported to be in a Monastery [secondary headline] AGAIN EMBRACES CATHOLICISM [sub-secondary headline] After Being Outside the Church Fifty Years [third-ranking headline] BECAME A CONVERT OF FATHER CHINIQUY [sub-third] The Rev. La Fountaine Left St. Anne Three Months Ago After nearly fifty years outside the fold of the Roman Catholic church, during which he was ordained as a Presbyterian minister, was married, and raised a family, the Rev. I. LaFountaine, an ex-priest, at the age of 75 has returned to his old faith and left all else behind. This is the explanation given for the disappearance of Father LaFountaine, who came to Chicago from his home in St. Anne, near Kankakee, last December and apparently dropped out of sight. He is believed to be confied in some monastery in Canada, there to do penance for the remainder of his days, as he had been excommunicated after accepting the protestant faith, Father LaFountaine became a convert to the teachings of the Rev. Father Chiniquy when that celebrated ex-Catholic was in Canada. He followed Chiniquy to St. Anne, taught for several years in a parochial school, and then was ordained as a Presbyterian preacher. He officiated in the St. Anne Presbyterian church for many years and finally resigned to open the largest store in the village. He became rich, married into one of the most aristocratic families of the xxxxx of the little Franch-Canadian town, and was the father oftwo daughters. One of these is Mrs.L. Blanchette, teacher of music in St. Anne, and the other is Mrs. L. E. Scott, wife of a Denver capitalist. Though he prospered beyond the most sanguine expectations, it was always evident to the close friends of Father LaFountaine that his mind was not easy and that he yearned for his old faith, and he has been heard to express regret because he left the church. This feeling became so intense that he left his home in St. Anne three months ago and, without giving any one the slightest hint of his intention came to Chicago and held a conference with his son-in-law, L. Blanchette, a photographer and a [Roman] Catholic. Mr. Blanchette lives at St. Anne but is at present in Chicago, stopping at the St. Nicholas Hotel, 212 WAshington Street. "Three months ago Mr. LaFountaine came to Chicago on business," said Mr. Blanchette yesterday, "and for a few days visited with me at the hotel. Then he met a nephew of his who came from Canada. I do not remember the name. His nephew wanted him to take a month's trip through Canada and as it would cost nothing he accepted. Mr. La Fountaine wrote to his wife at St. Anne, and I read the letter, explaining that he had this chance to make the trip and that he would be back in four or five weeks. "After that we heard nothing from him for a month, when he sent a letter to me, just enclosing another to his wife which he wanted me to address so they would not see his handwriting in the postoffice at home. There was no other message. I heard from his wife that the enclosure said that he had entered a refuge, that it had long been his desire, and now he had the chance to follow it." Letter Post-marked "Quebec": No one knows where Father La Fountaine is beyond that he is in Canada. The letter received by Mr. Blanchette was post-marked "Quebec", but there are several monasteries within reach of that city. The family hopes to locate him before long, and some of the relations believe he is being held contrary to his wish. Mr. Blanchette in a letter to his wife told her and his mother-in-law of the purpose of Mr. LaFountaine to re-enter the fold of the [Roman] Catholic church, there to do penance until the end. Aside from the one letter received, the family has heard nothing from the missing man. from the CHICAGO TRIBUNE [END QUOTED MATERIAL]
----- Original Message ----- From: <VCrawf@aol.com> To: <ILSTANNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:43 PM Subject: [ILSTANNE] deathbed second-thoughts? part 1 > > Here's the article I promised Bill la Fountain some time ago - didn't find it > till this minute. It had been given me by my cousin Margaret Bedard along > with other papers, and wasn't on the surface. Sorry, Bill - now it's coming > your way. > > But I think most everyone will be interested, since this is part of the > continuing story of the division of the St. Anne area community due to Fr. > C.P.T. Chiniquy's rejection of the Roman Catholic church (and its rejection > of him) and his establishment of the Christian Catholic Church in 1859. > > It is probably not surprising that those who blamed Chiniquy for the upheaval > and ill will and family acrimony and feuds that were the results of those > actions would like to have seen Chiniquy recant and repent and want to return > to the RC church. The Church, too, had a vested interest in showing that > Chiniquy subsequently realized he had been wrong and a failure as a leader > and that he now feared the torments of a Roman Catholic hell. > > Well, it developed that one of Chas. Chiniquy's nieces, a daughter of Achille > Chiniquy, became a Roman Catholic nun. The story went that she was > instructed to try to gain entry to Chiniquy's home in Montreal when he was > near death in 1899, in the hope and expectation that she could be a witness > to his recanting the faith he had embraced and seeking again to embrace Roman > Catholicism. > > I'll return to this story later, as I have some clippings from the Kankakee > papers about her visits. To end any suspense: Charles Chiniquy maintained > to the end his faith in the protestant beliefs he had outlined in founding > the new church, and he died peacefully in his bed, full of years (90) and > honors. > > But anyway, there were those who pursued the very members of the Christian > Catholic Church (which in its St. Anne identity became Presbyterian) to see > if any would turn back to their old beliefs when death approached. The > newspapers, which at that time could and did print just about anything > without fear of reprisal, were hungry for this kind of stuff and were not > above inventing it where reality did not provide enough zing. (Wasn't this > around the time the Hearst papers single-handedly manufactured the > Spanish-American War out of whole cloth?) Of course, some of what the > papers wrote could actually have been true. > > So now you have the background for what this clipping tells us about the Rev. > La Fountaine - who is not related to Bill of this list, so far as I > understand, but for the co-incidence of the surname. > > The clipping is dated 18 March 1903, Kankakee Daily Reporter. But I've > gone on too long and will have to send you part 2 tomorrow. > > Oh, the suspense! > > Salut to all, from > > Ginny > > Ginny Crawford > listowner-administrator, ILSTANNE list > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM
Thanks to Ginny for the information about the background and controversy concerning the leadership and members of the Christian Catholic Church. The reference to Rev. LaFountaine is especially interesting to me. He might well have been part of my Fontaine-LaFountaine-LaFountain ancestors (a large family who originated in Quebec and migrated to many places in the eastern U.S., including the Plattsburg-Redford area of N.Y. Some of them ultimately came to the Kankakee area, and one family anecdote involved some of them becoming members of the Christian Catholic Church and the resulting family divisions resulting from that involvement. When I get the necessary ambition, I will forward more information to see if any one has any more information about this branch of the family who came to Illinois in the mid 1800s. Bill LaFountain
Here's the article I promised Bill la Fountain some time ago - didn't find it till this minute. It had been given me by my cousin Margaret Bedard along with other papers, and wasn't on the surface. Sorry, Bill - now it's coming your way. But I think most everyone will be interested, since this is part of the continuing story of the division of the St. Anne area community due to Fr. C.P.T. Chiniquy's rejection of the Roman Catholic church (and its rejection of him) and his establishment of the Christian Catholic Church in 1859. It is probably not surprising that those who blamed Chiniquy for the upheaval and ill will and family acrimony and feuds that were the results of those actions would like to have seen Chiniquy recant and repent and want to return to the RC church. The Church, too, had a vested interest in showing that Chiniquy subsequently realized he had been wrong and a failure as a leader and that he now feared the torments of a Roman Catholic hell. Well, it developed that one of Chas. Chiniquy's nieces, a daughter of Achille Chiniquy, became a Roman Catholic nun. The story went that she was instructed to try to gain entry to Chiniquy's home in Montreal when he was near death in 1899, in the hope and expectation that she could be a witness to his recanting the faith he had embraced and seeking again to embrace Roman Catholicism. I'll return to this story later, as I have some clippings from the Kankakee papers about her visits. To end any suspense: Charles Chiniquy maintained to the end his faith in the protestant beliefs he had outlined in founding the new church, and he died peacefully in his bed, full of years (90) and honors. But anyway, there were those who pursued the very members of the Christian Catholic Church (which in its St. Anne identity became Presbyterian) to see if any would turn back to their old beliefs when death approached. The newspapers, which at that time could and did print just about anything without fear of reprisal, were hungry for this kind of stuff and were not above inventing it where reality did not provide enough zing. (Wasn't this around the time the Hearst papers single-handedly manufactured the Spanish-American War out of whole cloth?) Of course, some of what the papers wrote could actually have been true. So now you have the background for what this clipping tells us about the Rev. La Fountaine - who is not related to Bill of this list, so far as I understand, but for the co-incidence of the surname. The clipping is dated 18 March 1903, Kankakee Daily Reporter. But I've gone on too long and will have to send you part 2 tomorrow. Oh, the suspense! Salut to all, from Ginny Ginny Crawford listowner-administrator, ILSTANNE list
from the Sears family website at www.genealogy.org/~lrsears/ <<<CYR of France The French name CYR has been Anglicized to SEARS in some cases. Yvon Cyr has a wonderful Acadian Genealogy Home Page which you can search this name and hundreds of others! >>> Who knew??? I didn't. Hope this is helpful and not old info. Ginny Crawford