Hello: Lots and lots of Caron's mentioned in the St Peter & Paul book published by KVGS. Hypolite was a son of Pierre Paul Caron and Marie Adelaide Caron ("no relation"). "Pierre Paul Caron - Born at L'Islet PQ, Canada, 1805. Came from Riviere du Loup (Lower Canada) to the states and settled in Limestone Township, Section 31, 1848." There is also a chart on page 125 that list the siblings of Hypolite and their children. richard graveline Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] CARON / ST GERMAIN > Bonjour Everyone, > > Is anyone on the list researching the surnames CARON & ST GERMAIN. > > I am looking for Hyppolite CARON who married Mathilde ST GERMAIN. I believe > they were married in Quebec. They might have been living in Kankakee City > and Hyppolite might be buried at Mt Calvery Cemetery. > > Any information will be greatly appreciated. > Carol Anne

Hello: For those who smiled when they read about "wily old Toussaint" I offer the following baptism. Celestine Charbonneau baptised Aug 20, 1829. Parents were "Toussaint and Indian". Recorded in Church of St. Louis King of France, St Louis. And for those who say that St Louis was too far away for a baptism, I want to say that Joseph Graveline who met Lewis and Clark in the Dakotas, had his children's baptisms recorded in St Louis also. Richard Graveline Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:59 PM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint Charbonneau > In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:46:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, a Quebec > lister wrote about Toussaint Charboneau: > > << Just happen to start reading a book: > People of the First man---The first hand account of Prince Maximillian's > expedition up the Missouri river 1833-1834. > E.P.Dutton & Co -1976-- ISBN 0-525-17732-9 > > In the Editor's preface: < Of a remarquable group of hardy man, perhaps the > hardiest was wily old Toussaint Charbonneau who was well into his seventies when > Maximillian encountered him at Fort Clark. Charbonneau has been working as a > guide. interpreter, and trader along the Missouri river for anyone who would hire > him since the 1790s. He had served as interpreter on the Lewis and Clark > expedition. Sacajawea, the Shoshone Indian woman who played a crucial role in > the success of that expedition, was one of his many wifes. As Maximillian sourly > noted, he was forever chasing after women, and five years after the prince's > visit he still at it. Francis Chardon, then in command at Fort Clark, reported in > his journal that, having bought a fourteen-year-old Assiniboin girl who had been > captured by the Arikaras, he sold her to Charbonneau whose "marriage" > was solemnized thusly: > "... the young men at the Fort and two rees( Arikaras) gave the Old Man a > splendid Charivaree, the Drums, pans. Kittles &c Beating; gun fireing &c. > The old gentleman gave a feast to the Men, and a glass of grog- and went to bed > with his young wife with the intention of doing his best" > > > Well not so bad.........! > > A Quebec lister

In a message dated 3/14/03 1:06:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Carol Anne > Perhaps it would help to locate the St.Germain side. Most marriages occur > in > the girls parish Bonjour Jack, That's a good idea. I'll go after the St Germain side and see what I can turn up. Thanks so much for all of your help. I really appreciate it. Carol Anne

You wrote : snip: It showed Clara's parents as Hyppolite Caron & > Mathilda St Germain. They were all in Kankakee. Now, all I have to do it > try and hook Hyppolite to his parents in Quebec. Carol Anne Perhaps it would help to locate the St.Germain side. Most marriages occur in the girls parish. There was a Antoine St.Germain and his wife Harriet Wimet who came to Kankakee in 1857 and farmed in Limestone twp. They had nine children seven sons and two daughters. He had a son named Romain ,born 15 May 1846 , at Montreal, married,18 Nov 1874, a Miss Louisa Carrow,the eldest child of Joseph Carrow et Susan Tatro. The parents were born in Canada. The interest here is 1. The St.Germain name in Montreal 2. THe marriage with Louisa Carrow. I believe that the name Carrow is the same as Caron or Carreau in Quebec Province. probably dit names ?? So I would look for the mariage of Hyppolite et Mathilda in and around Montreal. But for this period you will need parish records unless it would be in the Red or Blue Drouin. You may also post a quiry on a Quebec genealogy Forum Happy Hunting a Bientot Jack Langlois Source: Portrait et Biographical record of Kankakee County,IL.,pub.1893, Page 281

In a message dated 3/14/03 10:29:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > What I did find that was interesting. > In the 1880 federal census by father ledoux. there was a family .T.Carron > age 44 ,born Canada .Mathilda Carron,age 34,born Canada. > children were all born Illinois: Andrew 14, Alice 13,Emma 6, Clara 4, Kaus > Bonjour Jack, thank you for everything but I also found this in the Ledoux census and I'm sure that's the one I want. Clara Caron married Rudolph Chiniquy, my grandfathers brother and I just received a copy of their marriage certificate. It showed Clara's parents as Hyppolite Caron & Mathilda St Germain. They were all in Kankakee. Now, all I have to do it try and hook Hyppolite to his parents in Quebec. Oh what fun Carol Anne

Carol Anne Bonjour et stuff I found a Hyppolite Caron buried 1896 at Mt.Calvary. I searched the following Quebec counties, St jean, Laprairie,et St-Luc parish and no luck I also searched the 1881 census of U.S. and Canada and no marriages What I did find that was interesting. In the 1880 federal census by father ledoux. there was a family .T.Carron age 44 ,born Canada .Mathilda Carron,age 34,born Canada. children were all born Illinois: Andrew 14, Alice 13,Emma 6, Clara 4, Kaus 1. This was the only Mathilda Caron (Carreau) I could find. Perhaps Hyppolite was his middle name as this was given in burial. a Bientot Jack Langlois ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] CARON / ST GERMAIN > Bonjour Everyone, > > Is anyone on the list researching the surnames CARON & ST GERMAIN. > > I am looking for Hyppolite CARON who married Mathilde ST GERMAIN. I believe > they were married in Quebec. They might have been living in Kankakee City > and Hyppolite might be buried at Mt Calvery Cemetery. > > Any information will be greatly appreciated. > Carol Anne > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Bonjour Everyone, Is anyone on the list researching the surnames CARON & ST GERMAIN. I am looking for Hyppolite CARON who married Mathilde ST GERMAIN. I believe they were married in Quebec. They might have been living in Kankakee City and Hyppolite might be buried at Mt Calvery Cemetery. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Carol Anne

Carol Ann and Listers I want to thank you for your help in finding my BOUDREAU ancestors. Because of your help; you gave me the clues that finally paid off today. Today, I found the ancestors of Alphonse Boudreau's wife Cecelia ALLAIN. I am in contact with descendants of Michael ALLAIN my great great great grandfather and they are giving me lots of family history. It was interesting that the Allain family is listed on the St. Anne Saga as being the first family in St. Anne. I think, I read that right. If I didn't, I think you will tell me different. This has been a exciting day and I wanted to share it with people who have helped me so much. Carol Ann, you found the children of Cecilia and Alphonse in Father Charles CHINIQUY'S Ledger and on the baptismal record the godparents were listed. Thanks to you, I can trace my ALLAIN line back to 1647, in France. I also, want to thank the listers who looked up and found censuses for my BOUDREAUS. They were a great help too. Thank you, Mary Boudreau

In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:46:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, a Quebec lister wrote about Toussaint Charboneau: << Just happen to start reading a book: People of the First man---The first hand account of Prince Maximillian's expedition up the Missouri river 1833-1834. Water colors by Karl Bodner. E.P.Dutton & Co -1976-- ISBN 0-525-17732-9 In the Editor's preface: < Of a remarquable group of hardy man, perhaps the hardiest was wily old Toussaint Charbonneau who was well into his seventies when Maximillian encountered him at Fort Clark. Charbonneau has been working as a guide. interpreter, and trader along the Missouri river for anyone who would hire him since the 1790s. He had served as interpreter on the Lewis and Clark expedition. Sacajawea, the Shoshone Indian woman who played a crucial role in the success of that expedition, was one of his many wifes. As Maximillian sourly noted, he was forever chasing after women, and five years after the prince's visit he still at it. Francis Chardon, then in command at Fort Clark, reported in his journal that, having bought a fourteen-year-old Assiniboin girl who had been captured by the Arikaras, he sold her to Charbonneau whose "marriage" was solemnized thusly: "... the young men at the Fort and two rees( Arikaras) gave the Old Man a splendid Charivaree, the Drums, pans. Kittles &c Beating; gun fireing &c. The old gentleman gave a feast to the Men, and a glass of grog- and went to bed with his young wife with the intention of doing his best" > Well not so bad.........! A Quebec lister >>

Ilstanne listers - I'm passing on these messages about Toussaint CHARBONNEAU, father of SACAGAWEA's child (she traditionally served as guide and interpeter for Lewis and Clark on their expedition), as I recall that we wee discussing this some months ago. I think there were more messages, about what happened to the child, "Pompey" - I'll send them if there is interest. Is there a St. Anne tie-in with this family? Ginny. +++++++++++++++++++++++ << In a message to QUEBEC-L dated 2/14/03 04:05:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, a Quebec lister wrote: << Does anyone know who the parents of TOUSSAINT CHARBONNEAU were? He accompanied Lewis and Clarke on their expedition of discovery. Does anyone know where he is buried? >>> A Quebec lister responded: <<< in 1839, Charbonneau, described by Superintendent of Indian Affairs Joshua Pilcher as "tottering under the infirmities of 80 winters", appeared in St. Louis to ask the Indian Bureau for back salaries. This was the last entry about Charbonneau discovered thus far to appear in the official records. It is thought that he died sometime around the year 1843 at about 86 years of age, for it was in that year that his estate was settled by his son Jean Baptiste. From the National Park Service website www.nnps.gov (Jefferson National Expansion Monument) Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, 1735) | Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - About 1843) & Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (About 1787 - Dec 22, 1812) | | Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (Feb 11, 1805 - ) >>>>

The History Channel had a great show about the Lewis and clark expedition. The show stated that, "Pomp" was educated by one of the pair of Lewis and Clark, and became the traveling companion of a wealthy European noble. According to the PDRH, Toussaint was born in Boucherville, Quebec, but I would have to go back to find who his parents were. Sacajawea died while still in her 20's. The large, rock outcropping in eastern Montana was named after "Pomp" and is called "Pompey's Pillar". There are, on that pillar, inscriptions written by members of the L&C expedition. J > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:51:27 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONNEAU > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:51:35 -0700 > > Ilstanne listers - I'm passing on these messages about Toussaint CHARBONNEAU, > father of SACAGAWEA's child (she traditionally served as guide and interpeter > for Lewis and Clark on their expedition), as I recall that we wee discussing > this some months ago. I think there were more messages, about what > happened to the child, "Pompey" - I'll send them if there is interest. Is > there a St. Anne tie-in with this family? Ginny. > +++++++++++++++++++++++ > > << In a message to QUEBEC-L dated 2/14/03 04:05:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, > a Quebec lister wrote: > > << Does anyone know who the parents of TOUSSAINT CHARBONNEAU were? He > accompanied Lewis and Clarke on their expedition of discovery. Does anyone > know where he is buried? >>>> > > A Quebec lister responded: > > <<< in 1839, Charbonneau, described by Superintendent of Indian Affairs > Joshua > Pilcher as "tottering under the infirmities of 80 winters", appeared in St. > Louis to ask the Indian Bureau for back salaries. This was the last entry > about Charbonneau discovered thus far to appear in the official records. It > is thought that he died sometime around the year 1843 at about 86 years of > age, for it was in that year that his estate was settled by his son Jean > Baptiste. > > From the National Park Service website www.nnps.gov (Jefferson National > Expansion Monument) > > Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, > 1735) > > | Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - About 1843) & Sacagawea "Bird > Woman" > (About 1787 - Dec 22, 1812) > > | | Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (Feb 11, 1805 - ) >>>>> > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, > an interested person should send an eMail to [email protected] > with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

... especially if you have ancestors/relative in Eastern Ontario/Western Quebec. Here, 'borrowed from another list', is a great site for those who are looking for cemeteries and headstones. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~snaylor/CemeteryGraveMarkers.htm Jean-Paul <[email protected]>

I was asked to post this... If you have any comments or questions please contact Bob D'Aoust at either [email protected] or [email protected] ************************************** All: Just a quick e-mail to tell you about a planned D'Aoust (Daoust, Dault, Deault Doe, Dow, Dowe) family get together / reunion that will be held in conjunction with the 300th Anniversary Celebration of Saint-Anne de Bellevue. http://sainteannedebellevue.homestead.com/home.html The date for this get together will be Saturday July 26, 2003, time to be determined. A forthcoming email will provide the time, the address and directions to the Archives, and our initial meeting spot. The only cost planned for this reunion will be $25.00 for the supper / concert that is planned for 6:00 pm, this is optional. Take a look at the planned activities scheduled for the get together. http://www.daoust53.homestead.com/daoustcousinsletter.html This will be a great opportunity for family members to meet and exchange Family History. If you are interested in this planned activity please contact me via e-mail or s-mail. Please pass this e-mail onto other family members that may be interested in this Family get together. Bob D'Aoust 389 Wintergreen Drive, Waterloo, Ontario N2V 1L7 519-886-1242 [email protected] [email protected]

Bonjour Looking for the "" enfants"" of Antoine Langlois,ne 1774,( fils d'Isaac et Marie Belanger),maries 17 Apr 1798 at St-Pierre-du-Sud, a Marie Angelique Fontaine,nee 1779 ,(fille d' Joseph et Rosalie Gerbert-Jalbert), Maybe enfant Emerance nee 1809.??. Others were Antoine , Edward et Louis. Any aide appreciated. a Bientot Jack Langlois

Jayne Glad to see you have a sense of humor. The following is recommended if you intend to do any serious Acadian Genealogy. 1. Do all your recordings in pencil. 2. A BIG eraseur 3. A bottle of aspirin and a fifth of you favorite libation ,Port Royal Rum et Coke ?? 4. When all else fails then do as any good Acadian descendant would do and GUESS. a Bientot Jack P.S. If you get really bored then post to the forum that perhaps Anne, Etiennte,et Antoine were siblings , then watch out for the " flaming " responses ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAYNE HEBERT" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: [QUEBEC] Jean Cote revisited > Dear list, Since the parentage of my ancestor Anne Martin is (can we at > least agree) questionable. Can anyone dispute or verify the Etienne > Hebert (Acadian, my 9th ggf, brother to my direct ancestor Antoine) > connection to the Cote line: > Etienne Hebert/Marie Anne Gaudet, Emanuel Hebert/Andree Brun, > Marguerite Hebert/Pierre Jean Thibodeaux, Jean Baptiste > Thibodeaux/Marie Lablanc, Jean Baptiste Thibodeau/M. Anne Fr. Babin, > Marguerite Thibodeau/Jean Cote Sincerely, Jayne Hebert

Yes! I would like to buy your Red Drouin for $80 if it isn't sold already. Please contact me at newmeyerj @aol.com. Thank you!

Hi Don, I would also be interested in the files from Drouin book. I was going to try and purchase the book, but figured by the time I read my e-mails, it would have been sold. Thanks Kim P.S. Doing research for my family: Turners, Rangers, Frechette, Chartrand, Chapados, Perree. I am from the Pontiac. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Boudreaux" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Fw: [QUEBEC] Red Drouin for sale > Hi Marietta: > I have a file that someone created from the Drouin book that they took > all > the names but put the names of the WIVES in alphabetical order instead > of > like the book is, with only the males in alphabetical order. It has all > the > names the book does. It is a pretty small file compressed (ZIP). If you > would > like a copy of it I can attach it to an email and send to you. The file > fits > on a regular floppy so it is less then 1.5 megs big. All you have to do > is run > PKZIP to unZIP it and you can read the file with any text processing > program. > I downloaded it off the internet several years ago. > > Don Boudreaux > Lafayette, La. > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > This Is Marietta Tanner and the Book sounds like it might be helpful, but I > > can't afford it. I have to live on my Social Security Check.My son buys some > > of my computer items. Right now I,m working on my fathers family. His > > brothers and sisters. Thank you anyhow. Talk to you later. > > > > Tanner > > (Boudreau) > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to [email protected] with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Don Boudreau, I would like the information.I hope I can copy it on a disk. I thank you very much. I would like to know what Boudreau family you are related to.Do you think we are related.My great Grandfather is Joseph, married to Judith Josephe Doxtoder.I have quite a bit of information from a cousin of mine.Her name is Brenda Hebert.Lives in Aberdeen Washington. Will talk to you later. Marietta

Marietta, I have sent you a separate email describing the contents of my CD. Les ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] CDs of Beaverville-Papineau > Can you tell me what is on the CD's.Does it give baptism, marriages. .Explain > more what is on them. I'm on Limited income and have to watch my > pennies.Thank you. > > Marietta > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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