Thats ok. These are anixous times, no harm done.

We are so sorry to hear of Ryan's death. My brother called me this morning with the news. Ryan's grandfather, Ozzie Bieber, is my first cousin; my grandfather, Steve Goyette, was Ryan's great-great grandfather. Some of you may remember his parents from the Pumpkin Festival several years ago. Jim and I watched the parade from their front lawn and perhaps some of you stopped by, too. Please pray for him, his family and friends, and all the brave people working for liberation. Bev Goyette Mieure St. Louis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ardis Boone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Startling News > Sorry that it sounded like that, I did not mean it to go that way. But I > was so shocked as I was sitting at the computer when the Chicago TV came > across with Ryan's name, I felt I had been hit in the head. As his parents > and both sets of grandparents have been our friends all of our lives. I was > wrong in stating the first death in the war, not sure if he was or was not. > But that news broadcast sent it out that way. I have no idea where you are > located, but our Chicago stations have repeated the same news about every > half hour. > My Apology Ardis > Is the truth, as Military Officials were here in St. Anne this morning > visiting Ryan's parents, Mark & Nicky. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Startling News > > > > Yes, I do watch TV. However, to my knowledge the TV hasn't given names > out. > > The tone of your reply offends me. Since I do not live in the St. Anne > area > > anymore I don't have access to local radio or news. So naturally one > wonders > > where the info came from. Not that it is doubted. > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined > Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: > > http:boards.ancestry.com/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: > http:boards.ancestry.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ryan Beaupre, Capt., USMC, 30, was son of Mark & Nichole Bleaupre Box 126 St. Anne, IL 60964 He was piloting a group of British commandos when his chopper went down. Prayers for him, his buddies, and all his family would not be amiss.

Yes, I do watch TV. However, to my knowledge the TV hasn't given names out. The tone of your reply offends me. Since I do not live in the St. Anne area anymore I don't have access to local radio or news. So naturally one wonders where the info came from. Not that it is doubted.

Sorry that it sounded like that, I did not mean it to go that way. But I was so shocked as I was sitting at the computer when the Chicago TV came across with Ryan's name, I felt I had been hit in the head. As his parents and both sets of grandparents have been our friends all of our lives. I was wrong in stating the first death in the war, not sure if he was or was not. But that news broadcast sent it out that way. I have no idea where you are located, but our Chicago stations have repeated the same news about every half hour. My Apology Ardis Is the truth, as Military Officials were here in St. Anne this morning visiting Ryan's parents, Mark & Nicky. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Startling News > Yes, I do watch TV. However, to my knowledge the TV hasn't given names out. > The tone of your reply offends me. Since I do not live in the St. Anne area > anymore I don't have access to local radio or news. So naturally one wonders > where the info came from. Not that it is doubted. > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: > http:boards.ancestry.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Our hearts, thoughts and prayers reach out to Ryan's family. How very sad and tragic. God bless him and his family. Myrna

How is this known???

Hello everyone, I'm not a member of the list but I've just sent an email to be added. Another member of your list let me know that St. Anne has lost one of its own. My prayers are with you all. My interest in St. Anne is that my family comes from there. I'm a descendent of Michael Allain. Deb Allain

Do you not watch TV. Local news and friends of family. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Startling News > How is this known??? > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

St. Anne makes the news again. That first soldier to lose his life in this war, Ryan Beaupre of St. Anne. Relatives to half of the Listers on St. Anne Group.

Interesting sites http://www.manataka.org/page80.html and http://www.mountain-press.com/otherpages/links/PompsLX.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents > > Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint [Charboneau]" - as given by a > Quebec lister. > > Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, > 1735) > > Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - died about 1843), married > Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died Dec 22, 1812) > > Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the > trail to the Pacific. > > I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but cannot find it now. Anyone > know? > > The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis ("Undaunted Courage", or something > like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) is terrific - highly > recommended, > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear List: Those of us who live in Wyoming do subscribe to the version that says Sacajawea died in Wyoming as an old lady and is buried (there is a grave marked) at Ft. Washakie, near Lander where I lived as a teenager. There are numerous accounts of her life and many agree that the Journals of Lewis and Clark contain some of the most accurate info. Yes, she is popularly known as 'Bird Woman,' and contemporary Shoshone people say that is a reasonable translation. Jeny, in Wyoming >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:06:34 -0500 >From: "Jack" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: [ILSTANNE] Carol Anne--Re:CARON / ST GERMAIN >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >You wrote : snip: > It showed Clara's parents as Hyppolite Caron & >> Mathilda St Germain. They were all in Kankakee. Now, all I have to do it >> try and hook Hyppolite to his parents in Quebec. > >Carol Anne >Perhaps it would help to locate the St.Germain side. Most marriages occur in >the girls parish. >There was a Antoine St.Germain and his wife Harriet Wimet who came to >Kankakee in 1857 and farmed in Limestone twp. >They had nine children seven sons and two daughters. He had a son named >Romain ,born 15 May 1846 , at Montreal, married,18 Nov 1874, a Miss >Louisa Carrow,the eldest child of Joseph Carrow et Susan Tatro. The parents >were born in Canada. >The interest here is >1. The St.Germain name in Montreal >2. THe marriage with Louisa Carrow. I believe that the name Carrow is the >same as Caron or Carreau in Quebec Province. probably dit names ?? >So I would look for the mariage of Hyppolite et Mathilda in and around >Montreal. But for this period you will need parish records unless >it would be in the Red or Blue Drouin. You may also post a quiry on a Quebec >genealogy Forum > >Happy Hunting > >a Bientot >Jack Langlois >Source: Portrait et Biographical record of Kankakee County,IL.,pub.1893, >Page 281 > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #9 >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:33:08 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Jack----Re:CARON / ST GERMAIN >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 3/14/03 1:06:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > >> Carol Anne >> Perhaps it would help to locate the St.Germain side. Most marriages occur >> in >> the girls parish > > Bonjour Jack, >That's a good idea. I'll go after the St Germain side and see what I can >turn up. Thanks so much for all of your help. I really appreciate it. >Carol Anne > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #10 >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:16:51 -0500 >From: "Richard Graveline" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint Charbonneau >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello: > >For those who smiled when they read about "wily old Toussaint" I offer the >following baptism. > >Celestine Charbonneau baptised Aug 20, 1829. Parents were "Toussaint and >Indian". Recorded in >Church of St. Louis King of France, St Louis. > >And for those who say that St Louis was too far away for a baptism, I want >to say that Joseph >Graveline who met Lewis and Clark in the Dakotas, had his children's >baptisms recorded in St >Louis also. > >Richard Graveline >Georgia > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:59 PM >Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint Charbonneau > > >> In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:46:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, a Quebec >> lister wrote about Toussaint Charboneau: >> >> << Just happen to start reading a book: >> People of the First man---The first hand account of Prince Maximillian's >> expedition up the Missouri river 1833-1834. >> E.P.Dutton & Co -1976-- ISBN 0-525-17732-9 >> >> In the Editor's preface: < Of a remarquable group of hardy man, perhaps the >> hardiest was wily old Toussaint Charbonneau who was well into his >>seventies when >> Maximillian encountered him at Fort Clark. Charbonneau has been working as a >> guide. interpreter, and trader along the Missouri river for anyone who >>would hire >> him since the 1790s. He had served as interpreter on the Lewis and Clark >> expedition. Sacajawea, the Shoshone Indian woman who played a crucial >>role in >> the success of that expedition, was one of his many wifes. As >>Maximillian sourly >> noted, he was forever chasing after women, and five years after the prince's >> visit he still at it. Francis Chardon, then in command at Fort Clark, >>reported in >> his journal that, having bought a fourteen-year-old Assiniboin girl who >>had been >> captured by the Arikaras, he sold her to Charbonneau whose "marriage" >> was solemnized thusly: >> "... the young men at the Fort and two rees( Arikaras) gave the Old Man a >> splendid Charivaree, the Drums, pans. Kittles &c Beating; gun fireing &c. >> The old gentleman gave a feast to the Men, and a glass of grog- and went >>to bed >> with his young wife with the intention of doing his best" >> > >> Well not so bad.........! >> >> A Quebec lister > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #11 >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:36:42 -0500 >From: "Richard Graveline" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] CARON / ST GERMAIN >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello: > >Lots and lots of Caron's mentioned in the St Peter & Paul book published >by KVGS. Hypolite was >a son of Pierre Paul Caron and Marie Adelaide Caron ("no relation"). > > "Pierre Paul Caron - Born at L'Islet PQ, Canada, 1805. Came from >Riviere du Loup (Lower >Canada) to the states and settled in Limestone Township, Section 31, 1848." > >There is also a chart on page 125 that list the siblings of Hypolite and >their children. > > >richard graveline >Georgia > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:14 AM >Subject: [ILSTANNE] CARON / ST GERMAIN > > >> Bonjour Everyone, >> >> Is anyone on the list researching the surnames CARON & ST GERMAIN. >> >> I am looking for Hyppolite CARON who married Mathilde ST GERMAIN. I believe >> they were married in Quebec. They might have been living in Kankakee City >> and Hyppolite might be buried at Mt Calvery Cemetery. >> >> Any information will be greatly appreciated. >> Carol Anne > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #12 >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:56:19 -0500 >From: "Jack" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: [ILSTANNE] Re:CARON / ST GERMAIN >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Carol Anne >I found on the Ill state death index > >Mathilde Caron, died 19 Jan 1917,at Kankakee,Kankakee County.,IL. > >a Bientot >Jack Langlois > > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #13 >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:37:13 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Re:CARON / ST GERMAIN >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 3/14/03 3:56:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > >> I found on the Ill state death index >> >> Mathilde Caron, died 19 Jan 1917,at Kankakee,Kankakee County.,IL. >> > Thanks again, Jack. I must have missed that when I was looking stuff up. > >Carol Anne > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #14 >Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:01:57 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint [Charboneau]" - as given by a >Quebec lister. > >Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, >1735) > >Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - died about 1843), married > Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died Dec 22, 1812) > >Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the >trail to the Pacific. > >I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but cannot find it now. Anyone >know? > >The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis ("Undaunted Courage", or something >like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) is terrific - highly >recommended, > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #15 >Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:58:37 -0600 >From: Jackie Doty <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <BA989BBD.4DD8%[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents >Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >According to a program on the History Channel, J.B "Pomp" Charbonneau's >education was funded by one of the explorers, and he eventually became a >traveling companion of a European noble. > >> From: [email protected] >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:01:57 EST >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:01:57 -0700 >> >> >> Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint [Charboneau]" - as given by a >> Quebec lister. >> >> Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, >> 1735) >> >> Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - died about 1843), married >> Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died Dec 22, 1812) >> >> Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the >> trail to the Pacific. >> >> I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but cannot find it now. Anyone >> know? >> >> The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis ("Undaunted Courage", or something >> like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) is terrific - highly >> recommended, >> >> >> ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== >> Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to >> those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice >> to see them thanked publicly. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >______________________________ >------------------------------ >X-Message: #16 >Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:58:02 -0800 (PST) >From: alan boudreau <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Adding my 2 cents worth...here is what the History >channel had to say. > > >Sacajawea > >Sacajawea, Sacagawea, or Sakakawea, c.1784-1884?, >Native North American woman guide on the Lewis and >Clark expedition and the only woman to accompany the >party. She is generally called the Bird Woman in >English, although this translation has been >challenged, and there has been much dispute about the >form of her Native American name. She was a member of >the Shoshone, had been captured and sold to a Mandan, >and finally was traded to Toussaint Charbonneau, one >of whose wives she became. He was interpreter for the >expedition. She proved invaluable as a guide and >interpreter when Lewis and Clark reached the upper >Missouri River and the mountains from which she had >come. On the return journey she and Charbonneau left >(1806) the expedition at the Mandan villages. While >some historians date Sacajawea's death around 1812, >there are others who claim that she was discovered by >a missionary in 1875 and that she actually died in >Wyoming in 1884. > >See biography by H. P. Howard (1971). > > > > >--- Jackie Doty <[email protected]> wrote: >> According to a program on the History Channel, J.B >> "Pomp" Charbonneau's >> education was funded by one of the explorers, and he >> eventually became a >> traveling companion of a European noble. >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:01:57 EST >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents >> > Resent-From: [email protected] >> > Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:01:57 -0700 >> > >> > >> > Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint >> [Charboneau]" - as given by a >> > Quebec lister. >> > >> > Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & >> Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, >> > 1735) >> > >> > Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 >> - died about 1843), married >> > Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died >> Dec 22, 1812) >> > >> > Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau >> (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the >> > trail to the Pacific. >> > >> > I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but >> cannot find it now. Anyone >> > know? >> > >> > The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis >> ("Undaunted Courage", or something >> > like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) >> is terrific - highly >> > recommended, >> > >> > >> > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== >> > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please >> send thanks ON the list to >> > those who have helped you. Our listers are so >> smart and generous - it's nice >> > to see them thanked publicly. >> > >> > ============================== >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion >> online genealogy records, go >> > to: >> > >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== >> Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers >> about this list. 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Hope I am not overdoing this - but here's another Quebec-L message that deals with Toussaint Charboneau - quotes from the Lewis & Clark book I mentioned earlier. The Quebec lister says: << Aloha, I'd like to add to the considerable recent past discussion of CHARBONNEAU. The quotes below are from a well-researched story of the Lewis and Clark expedition in "Undaunted Courage" 1996 by Stephen E. Ambrose. Much of Ambrose's material is taken from the logs of either Merriwether Lewis or William Clark. Ambrose: "....on November 4 (1804) Clark recoded that 'a french man by Name Chabonah....visit us, he wish to hire & informed us his 2 sqars were Snake Indians.' His name was Toussaint Charbonneau. A French Canadian, about forty-five years old, he had once worked for the North West Company but was now living among the Hidatsas as an independent trader. His squaws, or 'wives' were Shoshones, or Snakes, from a band that lived in the Rocky Mountains at the headwaters of the Missouri. They were teenagers who had been captured by a Hidatsa raiding party four years earlier at the place where three rivers came together to form the Missouri, called Three Forks. Charbonneau had won them in a bet with the warriors who had captured them. The captains (Lewis and Clark) eagerly accepted Charbonneau's offer to sign on as interpreter, not so much for his own sake as because his wives could speak the language of a mountain tribe. The wives could speak to Charbonneau in Hidatsa; he could then talk in French to (George) Drouillard, who could pass it on to the captains in English........So on the spot they signed up Charbonneau and one of his wives 'to go with us', He (Charbonneau) chose Sacagawea, who was about fifteen years old and six months pregnant." Ambrose goes on to tell us that Sacagawea was particularly effective in leading the expedition through Indian territory and in trading for horses. Ambrose: "Lewis's most unusual experience as a doctor came on February 11 (1805), when he was present at the labor of one of Charbonneau's wives, Sacagawea. Lewis noted that 'this was the first child which this woman had boarn and as is common in such cases her labour was tedious and the pain violent'..........The baby, a boy named Jean Baptiste Charbonneau, was healthy and active. The family had their hut inside Fort Mandan....". In early 1808, long after the expedition was completed, Ambrose tells of Lewis and Clark living in St. Louis, Missouri and that Sacagawea's son, Jean Baptiste, and daughter, Lizette, became boarders in Clark's home and were tutored there. There were several anecdotes in Ambrose's book about Charbonneau and his family...Toussaint apparently was the expedition's cook with assistance from Sacagawea, a poor sailor in the pirogues, and not always in favor with Lewis. I was able to obtain the book on the Internet for $11.50 (US) although the listed price was $17.00 (US) or $24 (CA) >> [end quote] For those interested, I think the book has been remaindered and is available at bargain prices at Borders, B & N, etc. Clark's spelling is always good for a couple of chuckles - and does remind us that spelling was not very important to our pre-1850 ancestors - another reason for us to notice and collect surname variants, even the most far-out! Salut to all, Ginny

For those of you that have my edition of the St. Marys Catholic Church of Beaverville, Illinois. (1859-1882) You will recognize that the edition on the CD's of same church recently being offered, is not my distorted version. Ardis Boone

In a message dated 3/13/03 8:44:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Carol Ann, you found the children of Cecilia and Alphonse in Father Charles > CHINIQUY'S Ledger and on the baptismal record the godparents were listed. > Thanks to you, I can trace my ALLAIN line back to 1647, in France. > Bonjour Mary, I'm so glad that I was able to help and that you are finding so much information on your line. Right now I am hot on the trail of my own ancestors. Isn't it fun..... Carol Anne

According to a program on the History Channel, J.B "Pomp" Charbonneau's education was funded by one of the explorers, and he eventually became a traveling companion of a European noble. > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:01:57 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:01:57 -0700 > > > Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint [Charboneau]" - as given by a > Quebec lister. > > Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, > 1735) > > Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - died about 1843), married > Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died Dec 22, 1812) > > Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the > trail to the Pacific. > > I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but cannot find it now. Anyone > know? > > The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis ("Undaunted Courage", or something > like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) is terrific - highly > recommended, > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to > those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice > to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Adding my 2 cents worth...here is what the History channel had to say. Sacajawea Sacajawea, Sacagawea, or Sakakawea, c.1784-1884?, Native North American woman guide on the Lewis and Clark expedition and the only woman to accompany the party. She is generally called the Bird Woman in English, although this translation has been challenged, and there has been much dispute about the form of her Native American name. She was a member of the Shoshone, had been captured and sold to a Mandan, and finally was traded to Toussaint Charbonneau, one of whose wives she became. He was interpreter for the expedition. She proved invaluable as a guide and interpreter when Lewis and Clark reached the upper Missouri River and the mountains from which she had come. On the return journey she and Charbonneau left (1806) the expedition at the Mandan villages. While some historians date Sacajawea's death around 1812, there are others who claim that she was discovered by a missionary in 1875 and that she actually died in Wyoming in 1884. See biography by H. P. Howard (1971). --- Jackie Doty <[email protected]> wrote: > According to a program on the History Channel, J.B > "Pomp" Charbonneau's > education was funded by one of the explorers, and he > eventually became a > traveling companion of a European noble. > > > From: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:01:57 EST > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ILSTANNE] Toussaint CHARBONEAU's parents > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:01:57 -0700 > > > > > > Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint > [Charboneau]" - as given by a > > Quebec lister. > > > > Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & > Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, > > 1735) > > > > Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 > - died about 1843), married > > Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died > Dec 22, 1812) > > > > Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau > (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the > > trail to the Pacific. > > > > I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but > cannot find it now. Anyone > > know? > > > > The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis > ("Undaunted Courage", or something > > like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) > is terrific - highly > > recommended, > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please > send thanks ON the list to > > those who have helped you. Our listers are so > smart and generous - it's nice > > to see them thanked publicly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go > > to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers > about this list. To join, an interested person > should send an eMail to > [email protected] with the word > SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com

Here's the parentage for "the wily Toussaint [Charboneau]" - as given by a Quebec lister. Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau (b. Aug 28, 1735) & Marguerite Deniau (b Apr 19, 1735) Their son was Toussaint Charbonneau (Mar 21, 1767 - died about 1843), married Sacagawea "Bird Woman" (born about 1787 - died Dec 22, 1812) Their son was Jean-Baptiste "Pompey" Charbonneau (b. Feb 11, 1805 on the trail to the Pacific. I have seen more about Pompey as an adult, but cannot find it now. Anyone know? The recent biography of Meriweather Lewis ("Undaunted Courage", or something like that -it was a best seller a few years ago) is terrific - highly recommended,

In a message dated 3/14/03 3:56:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I found on the Ill state death index > > Mathilde Caron, died 19 Jan 1917,at Kankakee,Kankakee County.,IL. > Thanks again, Jack. I must have missed that when I was looking stuff up. Carol Anne

Carol Anne I found on the Ill state death index Mathilde Caron, died 19 Jan 1917,at Kankakee,Kankakee County.,IL. a Bientot Jack Langlois