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    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey?
    2. Thanks for correcting that Gary - I see I chopped it off! It's a great place to look for alternate name suggestions though. Lisa [email protected] On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 12:09:23 -0600 "Gary Boivin" <[email protected]> writes: > You forgot one on the list which also comes from that book. > PERKIE = PAQUETTE > > Funny thing is that > PERKINS = PAQUET > yet Paquet & Paquette are both pronounced the same way today. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:16 AM > Subject: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey? > > > > Bren - > > > > Take a look at the surname variation page at > > www.afgs.org I looked through it a little, and > > didn't see PURKEY, but there is PERKIE > > > > > > (1) Perkie Larivière > > (1) Perkie LaVallée > > > > The (1) referes to names listed in the book > > "French-Canadian Names: Vermont Variants - > > by Véronique Gassette" published by the > > "Vermont Historical Society" Montpelier, VT. > > > > Lisa > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM > > Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > > > > > > > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE > line, > > I > > came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking > my > > brain > > all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could > have > > been > > originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the > daughter > > of > > a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to > genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > > Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you > want, > then the location or surname. Voila! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse through 8.6 million posts on combined > Ancestry.com and RootsWeb MESSAGE BOARDS at: > http:boards.ancestry.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    04/19/2003 05:50:15
    1. [ILSTANNE] PURKEY thanks!
    2. Brenda H�bert
    3. Thank you to everyone for their help! I did check in the SSDI and found a lot of PURKEYs listed, so am starting to wonder if it might NOT be F-C. Of course, can't really discount ANY alternatives until they've all be fully explored. Thanks again! ~~Bren Richard Graveline <[email protected]> wrote:Hello: Gary's note of Paquette looks to be a good solution for Brenda to explore as there was another Prairie-Paquette marriage in Bourbonnais (per the Maternity BVM Death Records book). The couple was Jean Baptiste Prairie and Aurelle Paquette. richard graveline Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boivin" To: Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey? > You forgot one on the list which also comes from that book. > PERKIE = PAQUETTE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brenda H�bert" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM > > Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > > > > > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, I > > came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my brain > > all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have been > > originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter of > > a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/19/2003 12:01:57
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey?
    2. Richard Graveline
    3. Hello: Gary's note of Paquette looks to be a good solution for Brenda to explore as there was another Prairie-Paquette marriage in Bourbonnais (per the Maternity BVM Death Records book). The couple was Jean Baptiste Prairie and Aurelle Paquette. richard graveline Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boivin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey? > You forgot one on the list which also comes from that book. > PERKIE = PAQUETTE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM > > Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > > > > > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, I > > came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my brain > > all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have been > > originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter of > > a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren

    04/19/2003 09:56:40
    1. [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey?
    2. Bren - Take a look at the surname variation page at www.afgs.org I looked through it a little, and didn't see PURKEY, but there is PERKIE (1) Perkie Larivière (1) Perkie LaVallée The (1) referes to names listed in the book "French-Canadian Names: Vermont Variants - by Véronique Gassette" published by the "Vermont Historical Society" Montpelier, VT. Lisa [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, I came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my brain all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have been originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter of a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    04/19/2003 06:16:22
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey?
    2. Gary Boivin
    3. You forgot one on the list which also comes from that book. PERKIE = PAQUETTE Funny thing is that PERKINS = PAQUET yet Paquet & Paquette are both pronounced the same way today. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] re: Purkey? > Bren - > > Take a look at the surname variation page at > www.afgs.org I looked through it a little, and > didn't see PURKEY, but there is PERKIE > > > (1) Perkie Larivière > (1) Perkie LaVallée > > The (1) referes to names listed in the book > "French-Canadian Names: Vermont Variants - > by Véronique Gassette" published by the > "Vermont Historical Society" Montpelier, VT. > > Lisa > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM > Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > > > > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, > I > came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my > brain > all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have > been > originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter > of > a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    04/19/2003 06:09:23
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY?
    2. Les Arseneau
    3. May I suggest that it is POURQUÉ. I don't personally know of such a surname, but if there is such a name, it would be pronounced and written as PURKEY by Anglos. Just a shot in the dark. Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boivin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > I agree... That PURKEY is a toughie. > The closest I can find in my database is the name PERTHUIS (pronounced > PAIR-TWU-EE --- actually TU-EE but the TU is a sound not said in English so > you would have to be French to know how to say it). BTW... LALIME is a "dit" > name for PERTHUIS (silent "s" ). > One thing I have observed is that the sound THIER is often written by > anglophones as CHY or KEY (as in GAUTHIER). Anglophones (English speakers) > have > a hard time with the French "TH" which does not sound like the English "TH" > but is simply said as a hard "T" followed by a hard vowel. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM > Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > > > > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, I > came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my brain > all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have been > originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter of > a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > To scan a remarkable collection of lists and webpages related to genealogy, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > Once there, click on "mailing lists", then select the category you want, then the location or surname. Voila! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    04/17/2003 10:33:57
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY?
    2. Gary Boivin
    3. I agree... That PURKEY is a toughie. The closest I can find in my database is the name PERTHUIS (pronounced PAIR-TWU-EE --- actually TU-EE but the TU is a sound not said in English so you would have to be French to know how to say it). BTW... LALIME is a "dit" name for PERTHUIS (silent "s" ). One thing I have observed is that the sound THIER is often written by anglophones as CHY or KEY (as in GAUTHIER). Anglophones (English speakers) have a hard time with the French "TH" which does not sound like the English "TH" but is simply said as a hard "T" followed by a hard vowel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY? > Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, I came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my brain all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have been originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter of a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    04/17/2003 08:38:11
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Tip for those researching the www.familysearch.org site
    2. Merci Gary, Sounds interesting......I'll give that a try Carol Anne

    04/17/2003 05:59:38
    1. [ILSTANNE] Tip for those researching the www.familysearch.org site
    2. Gary Boivin
    3. A good tip I found on the LALONDE List ********************************** A little hint you may find very useful, courtesy of the Executive Officer, Heather Garnsey, at the Society of Australian Genealogists in Sydney, NSW!! Many of us are familiar with the www.familysearch.org site and its online searches, but you may not know of the ability to search via batch number using the International Genealogical Index. Have you ever found an ancestor on film, ordered the film, then searched and searched through it looking for other members of the family?? Really hard work, especially if the eye sight is not too good! Well try this: First of all you MUST have found an ancestor's record on the IGI and it MUST BE from a Parish Record - NOT information someone has submitted. A GENUINE Parish Record extraction will have an upper case M or C preceding a number in the Batch Number section of the Source Information on the IGI record. No M or C?? You need not read any further, as the record has been submitted by someone instead. Select "International Genealogical Index" from the left hand panel. Select "British Isles" (for example) from the region section, and type in the Batch Number from your ancestors sheet. NOTE: you DO NOT put in their name - if you do you only get their record. By just selecting the region, and adding the batch number, and selecting Search, you will bring up everyone on the IGI who has been extracted from that specific parish register!! An example I just tried: Batch number M111102, British Isles, (taken from the sheet recording my GGG grandparents marriage) displays the other 1120 marriages recorded on the film from the Duirinish Parish, Inverness, Scotland - so you need not go blind looking for marriages of your ancestor's relatives!! BUT WAIT!! THERE'S MORE!! By following the same procedures, BUT CHANGING the upper case M to a C - eg for the above: C111102, brings up 2430 Christenings/Births in the Duirinish Parish!! I spent HOURS looking through this film for the christenings/ births of my ggg grandparents' children - but NO luck - so I got excited this morning - BUT no luck again - so perhaps their children were not christened. And a final word: look through very carefully - spelling variations and alphabetical order are problems!! For example McNEILL comes AFTER such names as McPHEE, McQUIN, MORRISON and MUNROE!!!

    04/17/2003 02:40:40
    1. [ILSTANNE] PURKEY?
    2. Brenda H�bert
    3. Salut! Hi! I have a question -- in doing research on the PRAIRIE line, I came across the surname PURKEY from Momence. I have been wracking my brain all day trying to figure out WHAT French-Canadian name that could have been originally. Alphonsine PURKEY married Jesse PRAIRIE. She was the daughter of a Joseph PURKEY. All help is appreciated! ~~Bren --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/16/2003 05:20:35
    1. [ILSTANNE] Tanguay volume available, in English!
    2. St. Anners - here is a related treasure available from e-Bay - the message about this gem came from a member of QUEBEC-L. Plenty of time to get on board and bid! from Ginny In a message dated 4/14/2003 11:51:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] (of QUEBEC-L) writes: <<<< While "screen shopping" at E-bay I saw this that some researcher might be interested in (I already have it). If interested click on the link below: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2922601256 Partial Description: "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" It is the translation of Rev. Cyprien Tanguay's A TRAVERS LES REGISTRES and principally a collection of genealogical and historical details compiled by this same Rev. Tanguay who so patiently worked through almost all of the existing Canadian Registers to come up with his superlative effort, his nation's own Livre d'Or, his Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Canadiennes Depuis la Fondation de la Colonie Jusqu'a nos Jours, to gather together all of the genealogical material that he could before that same material was lost forever to wars, fires, lack of care, and the ravages of time. NOTE from RG: I personally have nothing to do with the sale of this item and do not know the seller. I have posted this for information purposes only and do not recommend the article or the seller. (gotta cover my #$$). >>>>> Thanks, RG - you are a prince!

    04/15/2003 03:49:18
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again.
    2. In a message dated 4/14/03 12:28:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Thanks, Gary.....Have you received any messages from the St. Anne Listers? > It surely cannot be that quiet, can it? ardis > Hi Ardis, It has been quiet. Spring is here and everyone is out playing. Carol Anne

    04/14/2003 09:55:37
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again.
    2. Ardis Boone
    3. Thanks, Gary.....Have you received any messages from the St. Anne Listers? It surely cannot be that quiet, can it? ardis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Boivin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again. > I know it's been slow... > The last posting I have from you is on March 21st regarding Ryan. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ardis Boone" <[email protected]eramp.net> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:51 AM > Subject: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again. > > > > Is the St. Anne list down again? Or is it just me that is not receiving > anything, I sent in a bit of information on the naming of Papineau and it > did not make the listers? Ardis > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list > to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's > nice to see them thanked publicly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the ARCHIVES of any RootsWeb list at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    04/14/2003 08:27:32
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again.
    2. In a message dated 4/14/03 8:52:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Is the St. Anne list down again? Or is it just me that is not receiving > anything, I sent in a bit of information on the naming of Papineau and it > did not make the listers? Ardis > Bonjour Ardis, The list is up and OK............Carol Anne

    04/14/2003 06:28:32
    1. [ILSTANNE] Problems Again.
    2. Ardis Boone
    3. Is the St. Anne list down again? Or is it just me that is not receiving anything, I sent in a bit of information on the naming of Papineau and it did not make the listers? Ardis

    04/14/2003 04:51:16
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again.
    2. Gary Boivin
    3. I know it's been slow... The last posting I have from you is on March 21st regarding Ryan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ardis Boone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [ILSTANNE] Problems Again. > Is the St. Anne list down again? Or is it just me that is not receiving anything, I sent in a bit of information on the naming of Papineau and it did not make the listers? Ardis > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    04/14/2003 04:23:47
    1. [ILSTANNE] Historical value of money from 1700's to today
    2. Gary Boivin
    3. Found posted on the ONTARIO LIST.... A web site called "How Much Is That" The site helps to calculate historical purchasing power of money including labour costs, inflation rates all kinds of things from 1700's to now. Should help those trying to calculate how rich (or poor) their ancestors were by calculating their income or living expenses in today's dollars. http://eh.net/hmit/

    04/09/2003 06:51:57
    1. [ILSTANNE] Contact Me Please
    2. Jackie Doty
    3. Hi Would Les Arseneau please contact me. Jackie Doty

    04/08/2003 03:52:22
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Ryan Anthony Beaupre, USMC
    2. jpmieure
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jpmieure" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ryan Anthony Beaupre, USMC > Today's Kankakee Daily Journal lists funeral arrangements and the obituary > for Ryan. > > "His grandparents, Baron and Anita Beaupre,-------and his great-grandparents > Nick and Ethel Lauro are deceased." > > I do not know if the Lauro's are on the maternal or paternal side of the > family. > > www.daily-journal.com > > Bev Goyette Mieure > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ryan Anthony Beaupre, USMC > > > > In a message dated 4/1/03 5:37:25 PM Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > << Does anyone have Ryan's BEAUPRE line? >> > > > > I only have a little info......Judy Beaupre, his mother was an Allain (my > > line)....I could get you in touch with my new Allain cousin who attended > Judy > > and Ed Beaupre's wedding, so she may be able to help you. > > > > Mary > > > > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list > to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's > nice to see them thanked publicly. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    04/03/2003 08:57:49
    1. Re: [ILSTANNE] Ryan Anthony Beaupre, USMC
    2. jpmieure
    3. Today's Kankakee Daily Journal lists funeral arrangements and the obituary for Ryan. "His grandparents, Baron and Anita Beaupre,-------and his great-grandparents Nick and Ethel Lauro are deceased." I do not know if the Lauro's are on the maternal or paternal side of the family. www.daily-journal.com Bev Goyette Mieure ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [ILSTANNE] Ryan Anthony Beaupre, USMC > In a message dated 4/1/03 5:37:25 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Does anyone have Ryan's BEAUPRE line? >> > > I only have a little info......Judy Beaupre, his mother was an Allain (my > line)....I could get you in touch with my new Allain cousin who attended Judy > and Ed Beaupre's wedding, so she may be able to help you. > > Mary > > > ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== > Courtesy is the key to list relationships. Please send thanks ON the list to those who have helped you. Our listers are so smart and generous - it's nice to see them thanked publicly. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    04/02/2003 11:00:54