Cousin Cathy-- Beaupre! We got Beaupre folks on the list! I'll get back to you privately and send you a bunch of stuff. Probably so will other cousins. Stand by for the deluge. Thank God for ILSTANNE, and peace to those who are on it. Bonne Ste-Anne-de-Beaupré, priez pour nous. --bob in monterey

In a message dated 4/22/2003 5:23:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << renewed by a trip to Montreal I took last week >> Oooo, Cathy - - - How I'd love to visit Montreal! Welcome back to the ILSTANNE list - you'll find that we are still the same delightful, insightful, witty, and highly intellectual crowd you knew before - you'll fit right in! < big fond smile > Salut, from Ginny Crawford Administrator, ILSTANNE

Bonjour, I just rejoined the list after being off for a long time. My interest in my French Canadian lines has been renewed by a trip to Montreal I took last week. My line is actually my late husbands and not mine but I am determined to build a complete family history for my sons and have always enjoyed the St. Anne/Kankakee and French-Canadian research. Some of the names in St. Anne that I am researching are: BROSSEAU (Albert, Jacob Syfrois, Hubert, Joseph?) BEAUPRE (Juliette, Victor, Alfred, etc.) BERTRAND (Corrinne, Jean Baptiste) BREAULT (Hermeline, Leander) Some others in the area are Lambert, Pilot, Spenard. I'm looking forward to learning more about the history of the area and the migrations, etc. Cathy Naborowski Plymouth, MN. [email protected]

Has anyone had any success searching on Canadian IGI Batch numbers? I did find some good data for my New York families by batch searching. However, when I entered the batch numbers for my Canadian families nothing came up. I am missing a few baptisms and marriages. I know the batch numbers I have are accurate for the family members I have records for...but they yield nothing when I enter them. For area, I enter North America, Canada, and Quebec... then the batch number. I have tried deleting Quebec but still get nothing. Audrey Peters

In a message dated 4/22/03 11:21:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Carol Anne > One can almost say with a degree of certainty. > " Whenever did a census taker ever get the spelling or for that matter a > French name correct in a 1800 ish census " > a Bientot > Jack Langlois > > Yes, Jack, of course you're right but I just might have this figured out. The 1870 census for Kankakee City (pg 113 of Albert Ledoux book) shows the same Jacob with his wife Joville. I'll just bet that is the Jovite PIEDALUE that I found on the IGI records of FHC records. At least it is something to go on. Oh what fun..... Carol Anne

but.........how does Areville (shown in census reports) become Olive > ????? > > Carol Anne > Carol Anne One can almost say with a degree of certainty. " Whenever did a census taker ever get the spelling or for that matter a French name correct in a 1800 ish census " a Bientot Jack Langlois

Dear Jack: Where can I get the marriages of St Luc, to which you refer? Jan Jack <[email protected]> wrote: Source: marriages of St.Luc 1801-1968. a Bientot Jack Langlois ==== ILSTANNE Mailing List ==== Please tell your fellow St. Anne area researchers about this list. To join, an interested person should send an eMail to [email protected] with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line or message box. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

In a message dated 4/22/03 9:23:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > AHA! But then - I guess Celestin wasn't John in an earlier incarnation. > We have always wondered about the John Blain who came to St. Anne with > Joseph > Guertin and stuck around like a burr, apparently for a long time. > Well, John could be Jacques (Jacob) the father of Celestin. <big grin> Carol Anne

In a message dated 4/21/03 9:37:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Just a guess, but this could be Jacques Blain and Olive Durand, married 10 > -Feb- 1834 St Luc, Who is possibly the son of Jacques Blain and Marguerite > > Barabe also married at St Luc 24 Oct 1814. > Thank you Dave & Jack for your responce. That's probably a pretty good guess but.........how does Areville (shown in census reports) become Olive ????? Carol Anne

In a message dated 4/22/2003 9:13:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Yes Ginny, Jacob Blain is the father of Celestin. I'm trying to fill in some >> AHA! But then - I guess Celestin wasn't John in an earlier incarnation. We have always wondered about the John Blain who came to St. Anne with Joseph Guertin and stuck around like a burr, apparently for a long time. Thanks for the info.

In a message dated 4/21/03 10:40:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Carol Anne - Josephine Chiniquy, born in 1847 and the sister of Charles A. > and Virginie, married a CELESTIN BLAIN. Yes Ginny, Jacob Blain is the father of Celestin. I'm trying to fill in some blanks and get the parents of Jacob and the name of his wife for my records. Carol Anne

Thought maybe someone might be able to help. I can't remember if Mary is on this list or not, but thought I'd pass it along anyway. Bren [email protected] wrote:Hello Jim and Listers Thanks for replying to my posting for my BOUDREAU line on Rootsweb. All my other French-Canadian lines PLANTS> came through St. Anne, Kankakee County, Illinois. My ancestor lines were a very close knit group of people. Most of them traveled from St. Anne to Nebraska in 1868 together. So, it is just the matter of making the right connection. My g.g.g. grandmother Appoline Provencher/Provancha's second husband was Antoine Allain and she married her first husband Louis Provencher who were third cousins. The reason I mentioned this is to show how close my ancestors were. In Rootsweb posting, I mentioned that Cecile Allain married Alphone (Afonse) Boudreau b. 1825 - a fur trapper/farmer and also, that Pierre Boudreau's (Sr.) children married children of Michel Allain, so there is diffently a Boudreau connection with the Allains. The other connection is St. Anne, where Alphonse and Cecile's children were born and where the Allains were the first to own land. We need help from BOUDREAU descendants who came through St. Anne, Illinois, ONLY. That is my request. Since I had luck before when I posted on Rootsweb and Genforum for my Allain line that came through St. Anne. I thought I would do the same for my Boudreau line. Because, of my new found cousins, we can trace our Allain roots back to 1643, in France. So, I know it can work. I would like to find descendants of Pierre BOUDREAU, Sr. and Celestine Belanger, with these children: Elphere (Allain) and Maxime Boudreau; so I can trace this line of Boudreaus back and see if they have any connection to Alphonse and his brother Celestine. So, I am looking for Boudreau descendants who have ancestors, who have a link to St. Anne, Illinois. Through my cousins, I know there is a BOUDREAU - ALLAIN connection...........marriages, baptisms and deed records. I hoping that some descendant has Pierre Boudreau's (Sr) family tree, so we can trace his parents and siblings. Thank you, Mary Boudreau ==== BOUDREAU Mailing List ==== Genealogy and/or History ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

You Wrote: > Just a guess, but this could be Jacques Blain and Olive Durand, married 10 > -Feb- 1834 St Luc, Who is possibly the son of Jacques Blain and Marguerite > Barabe also married at St Luc 24 Oct 1814. > > Once again just a quick guess. > > Dave King Greetings et stuff The Jacques Blain spouse of Olive Durand,married 1834, is a second marriage for Jacques who was the widower of Marie Belanger. Source: marriages of St.Luc 1801-1968. a Bientot Jack Langlois

In a message dated 4/21/2003 9:37:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Is anyone working on the BLAIN surname. I'm trying to find the parents of > Jacob Blain. I also need the name of his wife >> Carol Anne - Josephine Chiniquy, born in 1847 and the sister of Charles A. and Virginie, married a CELESTIN BLAIN. Another tidbit: when Joseph Guertin rode into town to capture the heart of Virginie Chiniquy - he was accompanied by a John Blain who was his steadfast friend for years. It struck me recently that "John" may have been an Americanism for "Celestin". Cheers! Ginny

In a message dated 04/21/2003 10:29:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Bonjour Everyone, > > Is anyone working on the BLAIN surname. I'm trying to find the parents of > Jacob Blain. I also need the name of his wife. The 1860 Manteno Census > shows her as Areville but I need the last name. > > Many thanks for any help you can give me > > Carol Anne > Just a guess, but this could be Jacques Blain and Olive Durand, married 10 -Feb- 1834 St Luc, Who is possibly the son of Jacques Blain and Marguerite Barabe also married at St Luc 24 Oct 1814. Once again just a quick guess. Dave King

Bonjour Everyone, Is anyone working on the BLAIN surname. I'm trying to find the parents of Jacob Blain. I also need the name of his wife. The 1860 Manteno Census shows her as Areville but I need the last name. Many thanks for any help you can give me Carol Anne

Here is the first of the series, addressed to Aunt Stella. It is on a fold-over sheet, with a nicely embossed emblem on the upper left. The emblem is a representation of the US Capitol dome. the word "Congress" appears in a half-circle above it, and underneath is a monogram of the letters P, P, and P. Could this be the maker of the paper? Most likely it is! Some clarification in brackets. What a wonderful glimpse into the lives of real people these letters give! +++++++++++++++++++++ St. Anne Ills. Nov. 27, 1880 Dear Daughter [in-law] We have had the pleasure of receiving your letter of the 18th inst., as well as that of Charles, and it is indeed very gratifying to us to hear that you are happy and content in your new home, notwithstanding the ruff weather you experienced on your arrival at Crookston. What must have been your feelings: to find yourself almost suddenly conveyed from the City of Chicago and the charms of your beautiful home to the wilds of the far west. [re-phrased for clarity] The interest you take in your store will no doubt help you to use your time agreeably, also being a constant companion to your husband. It is most gratifying to hear that you are doing a fair business in the store; it will increase, I have no doubt, as the country will be settled; next year will see a large imigration toward your part of the country than has ever been, and as you will say, after a few years you will be able to retire to Chicago to spend the remainder of your lifes with relatives and friends. My son Rudolphe has visited us on Thaksgiving day , Albert [another son] has been here a few days previous. He has just started on his first run to sell goods in the Country. Nelson [mystery man] and Rudolphe are very likely going to visit you on or about Christmas. They wanted me to join them but it is impossible. My health is too bad I could not endure the trip, and travel in the winter. I am much better but will not be able to leave the house for all winter. Clara [daughter] has Canada on the brain and as Mr. Parent[son-in-law] speaks of coming to Chicago soon I would not be surprised if she [Clara] would go [back to Canada] with him and be some time with her sister Mrs. Parent [[Aunt Artemise, a daughter who married George Parent]. Mrs. Chiniquy and myself are very thankfull of your kind invitation of us accompanying you back home next spring. I assure you it will be with the greatest pleasure we will accept, provided our circumstances, health and work, agree. I would like it most particularly for my poor wife who has had so much trouble and fatigue during my long sickness. It would give her the rest she is so much in need of. We send you and Charles our best wishes. Your very affectionate father, A. Chiniquy

Well, gang - at last I am attacking the precious little stack of letters obtained last December from an eBay seller by Bob and Sandy Bovie and Carol Anne Chiniquy. Hurray for those intrepid souls, who made this transaction (actually, these transactions) happen! And a thousand thanks to them for passing the letters on to me. More on all of that anon. The ink is faded, the words not always entirely legible - but I think I can fully transcribe each letter eventually. The letters are from my great great grandfather to his son Charles A. Chiniquy (brother to my great grandmother, Virginie) in the years 1880-1882. Achille, the younger brother of Fr. Charles Chiniquy and of Louis Phillipe Chiniquy (great great grandfather of Carol Anne), was born in Murray Bay, Charlevoix, Quebec on 8 April 1815. He married Luce Anastasie Fraser in Beaumont, Bellechase, Quebec, on 23 April 1838. Their son Charles A. Chiniquy was born in Quebec on 18 December 1846. To set the stage about Charles A. - I can do no better than copy for you the puff-piece in a Kankakee County book of biographies (please take with grain of salt - these write-ups were by nature much over-stated!). Transcriptions of the letters will follow in later messages. The following article was copied from HISTORICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ILLINOIS, and HISTORY OF KANKAKEE COUNTY (1906) pages 868 & 869 [begin quote] One of the most interesting, as well as many-sided occupations known to man, is the mercantile business. Perhaps no other furnishes such continous opportunity for studying human nature, and for enlarging one's knowledge of the world in general. The intelligent and successful merchant must be an observer, and the more he observed, the better merchant he becomes. Charles A. Chiniquy, who is catering to a large trade in St Anne, probably has as wide a range of information regarding mercantile pursuits as any man in Kankakee County. Not only has he been a merchant many years, but he has conducted stores in many parts of the county, and in the midst of widely differing environments. He is to merchandising born, and his years of practical experience have resulted in many wise observations and deductions on trade in general, which should be of inestimable benefit to the younger class of caterers to the public. In addition, he is an ex-soldier in the Civil War, an extensive traveler in the west and north, and a thirty-second degree Mason. Charles A. Chiniquy was born in the Province of Quebec, Canada, December 18, 1846, a son of Captain Achilles and Lucy Fraser-Chiniquy, natives also of Canada. Charles A. was the third oldest of nine children born to this pair. After completing his education in the public schools, Charles A. Chiniquy started a general store in St Anne in 1871. Four years later he sold out and removed to Chicago, where he was traveling salesman for the large mercantile firm. He then located in Crookston, Minnesota, and conducted a general merchandise business for ten years, and then a similar business in Seattle, Washington for six years. Returning to Chicago, he operated a general store until 1902, in which year he again settled in St Anne, and since has managed a very successful general store, having the largest and best equipped store of the kind in the town. On October 14, 1880, he was united in marriage to Estella M. Russell, a native of Chicago, and only daughter of Major Alfred Russell and Lucinde Page, the former of whom died when his daughter was an infant. Mr. Chiniquy has traveled extensively, having made four trips to California, and visited Alaska twice, on the first occasion remaining eight weeks in the frozen north, and on the second occasion five weeks. He is a member of the Grand Army of the Republic. For many years he has been identified with the Masonic order, being a member of the Blue Lodge, Chapter, Commandery, and Consistory, and of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine. He has turned his many experiences to good account, has remembered what he has seen, and is a most interesting and enlightening conversationalist. Mr Chiniquy is held in high esteem by the citizens of St Anne, and his recent acquistion to the business life of the town is regarded as a distinct promise of substantial and well-merited success. [close quote] My, my - what a guy! < smile > Ginny

Brenda et all This should be considered in light that LeBlanc = White, Boule = Stevens , Michel = Mitchell and so on. There is no logic to it that I have found. a Bientot Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Hébert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: [ILSTANNE] PURKEY thanks! > Thank you to everyone for their help! I did check in the SSDI and found a lot of PURKEYs listed, so am starting to wonder if it might NOT be F-C. Of course, can't really discount ANY alternatives until they've all be fully explored. Thanks again! ~~Bren > >