Lorraine, So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they were in Shelby County, IL in 1850? Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? Bess -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please Hello Bess I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. The only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another later on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 and he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and Uncles. I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. Thank you this is greatly appreciated Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Lorraine, > > The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: > > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret > James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children > no > wife > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 > James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 > > I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? > > Bess > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM > To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > > Hello List > I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. > Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? > > I would like to request a look-up for three family members. > John H. TODD > William M. TODD > James & Juliana Todd DAVIS > > 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of Bourbon > Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper > Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by > the > 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. > > Any help greatly appreciated > Lorraine Llewellyn > Falcon MO > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm

Hi Bess I do not know when they were born, Juliana Todd Davis' father did not arrive in Bourbon Co KY until 1808 or so. His father John Todd Sr. & John's brother Edward Todd arrived from Fayette Co. PA. 1790. [I have cases on this also] Edward died 1795, John Todd Sr. died 1809, John Todd Jr. Benjamin's brother died 1828 Bourbon Co KY. Benjamin B. Todd then the surviving elder lived near these children in North Middletown Bourbon Co. until some time after 1830 where he bought a lot in Paris Bourbon Co. Benjamin may have had another wife prior to coming to Bourbon Co. There are not many Benjamin's of this time frame anywhere in the US and I have been in touch with researchers of the others Benjamin. lines, so this is like John in this Todd family to many in each generation just to pick one an say this is the right family. The following is what I have that leads me to Shelby Co ILL. I don't know how long William M. Todd and John H. Todd were in Shelby county but they were there on 8th day of 1838, date the court case was written, a copy of which I have from the County Court Records of Bourbon, Deed Bk. 37 pg 241~242, transcription follows. Bourbon County Deed Book 37 pg. 241~242 [personally copied by Lorraine Llewellyn at Paris Court House Bourbon Co KY 2004] 1838 Benjamin B. Todd, Heirs Deed to David R. Williams In. Lot W. 88 Paris, Bourbon County Kentucky This indenture made this eight day of November AD one thousand thirty eight between John H. Todd, William ^M Todd and Leticia A. his wife and James Davis and Juliana his wife late Juliana Todd of the County of Shelby and state of Illinois a party of the first part and David R. Williams of the County of Bourbon and State of Kentucky, a party of the second part __________ that the said party of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred dollars in hand paid the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged hereby granted bargained and sold and by these presents do grant bargain sell covey and confirm unto the said party of the second part all that piece or parcel of Land or Lot of ground situated on Pleasant Street in the Town of Paris and County aforesaid it being lot number eighty eight designated on the plat of said Town - said lot is bounded on the NW by Pleasant Street, NE by a lot belonging to Joseph Stephens on the SE by H T Duncan & SW by the same said lot measures 66 feet in front and extends back two hundred & fourteen feet -- Together with all the premises improvements rights and privileges thereunto belonging or in any wise appertaining. To have and to hold the land premises and appurtenances aforesaid unto the said party of the first part do covenant and bind themselves their heirs executors & assignees _________ to warrant and forever defend the land premises & appentences aforesaid unto the said party of the second part his heirs, and assigns against the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever. In testimony Whereof the said party of the first part have here unto set their hands and seals the day and year first above written. John H. Todd, Seal; Wm. M. Todd, Seal; Leticia A. Todd, Seal; James Davis, Seal; Juliana Davis; Seal As you see this is what leads me to Shelby Co Ill. I have so many court cases that involve this family that it is impossible to unwind it all in one email. John Sr. John Jr., Jane Todd widow of Edward are on the 1800 census for Bourbon. By 1833 all of the children of John Sr. and some of Edwards children have left Bourbon Co.KY for Pike Co MO and Pike Co, Ill. along with acouple in Brown and Calhoun Co Ill. All these I have chased down to this generation. Five surviving male members and five surviving female member I am in contact with now. Lorraine Llewellyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > Lorraine, > > So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as > grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? > > That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL > would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they were > in Shelby County, IL in 1850? > > Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? > > Bess > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM > To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > > Hello Bess > I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. > The > only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another later > on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 and > he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and > Uncles. > > I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a > needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. > Thank you this is greatly appreciated > Lorraine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> > To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM > Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > >> Lorraine, >> >> The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: >> >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret >> James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children >> no >> wife >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 >> James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 >> >> I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? >> >> Bess >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM >> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >> Hello List >> I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. >> Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? >> >> I would like to request a look-up for three family members. >> John H. TODD >> William M. TODD >> James & Juliana Todd DAVIS >> >> 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of >> Bourbon >> Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper >> Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by >> the >> 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. >> >> Any help greatly appreciated >> Lorraine Llewellyn >> Falcon MO >> >> >> ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm