Hi Bess Correction on departure of John & Edward Todd family from Fayette Co PA was 1790/91 and arrival Bourbon Co KY. 1792 Tax list Bourbon, plus many other court documents until estates settled in 1813 or there abouts. Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Llewellyn" <Forefathers@leblink.com> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Hi Bess > I do not know when they were born, Juliana Todd Davis' father did not > arrive in Bourbon Co KY until 1808 or so. > His father John Todd Sr. & John's brother Edward Todd arrived from Fayette > Co. PA. 1790. [I have cases on this also] Edward died 1795, John Todd Sr. > died 1809, John Todd Jr. Benjamin's brother died 1828 Bourbon Co KY. > Benjamin B. Todd then the surviving elder lived near these children in > North Middletown Bourbon Co. until some time after 1830 where he bought a > lot in Paris Bourbon Co. > Benjamin may have had another wife prior to coming to Bourbon Co. There > are not many Benjamin's of this time frame anywhere in the US and I have > been in touch with researchers of the others Benjamin. lines, so this is > like John in this Todd family to many in each generation just to pick one > an say this is the right family. > > The following is what I have that leads me to Shelby Co ILL. > > I don't know how long William M. Todd and John H. Todd were in Shelby > county but they were there on 8th day of 1838, date the court case was > written, a copy of which I have from the County Court Records of Bourbon, > Deed Bk. 37 pg 241~242, transcription follows. > > Bourbon County Deed Book 37 pg. 241~242 [personally copied by Lorraine > Llewellyn at Paris Court House Bourbon Co KY 2004] > 1838 Benjamin B. Todd, Heirs Deed to David R. Williams In. Lot W. 88 > Paris, Bourbon County Kentucky > This indenture made this eight day of November AD one thousand thirty > eight between John H. Todd, William ^M Todd and Leticia A. his wife and > James Davis and Juliana his wife late Juliana Todd of the County of Shelby > and state of Illinois a party of the first part and David R. Williams of > the County of Bourbon and State of Kentucky, a party of the second part > __________ that the said party of the first part for and in consideration > of the sum of two hundred dollars in hand paid the receipt whereof is > hereby acknowledged hereby granted bargained and sold and by these > presents do grant bargain sell covey and confirm unto the said party of > the second part all that piece or parcel of Land or Lot of ground situated > on Pleasant Street in the Town of Paris and County aforesaid it being lot > number eighty eight designated on the plat of said Town - said lot is > bounded on the NW by Pleasant Street, NE by a lot belonging to Joseph > Stephens on the SE by H T Duncan & SW by the same said lot measures 66 > feet in front and extends back two hundred & fourteen feet -- Together > with all the premises improvements rights and privileges thereunto > belonging or in any wise appertaining. To have and to hold the land > premises and appurtenances aforesaid unto the said party of the first part > do covenant and bind themselves their heirs executors & assignees > _________ to warrant and forever defend the land premises & appentences > aforesaid unto the said party of the second part his heirs, and assigns > against the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever. > In testimony Whereof the said party of the first part have here unto set > their hands and seals the day and year first above written. John H. Todd, > Seal; Wm. M. Todd, Seal; Leticia A. Todd, Seal; James Davis, Seal; Juliana > Davis; Seal > > As you see this is what leads me to Shelby Co Ill. > I have so many court cases that involve this family that it is impossible > to unwind it all in one email. > > John Sr. John Jr., Jane Todd widow of Edward are on the 1800 census for > Bourbon. By 1833 all of the children of John Sr. and some of Edwards > children have left Bourbon Co.KY for Pike Co MO and Pike Co, Ill. along > with acouple in Brown and Calhoun Co Ill. All these I have chased down to > this generation. Five surviving male members and five surviving female > member I am in contact with now. > > Lorraine Llewellyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> > To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:51 PM > Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > >> >> Lorraine, >> >> So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as >> grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? >> >> That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL >> would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they >> were >> in Shelby County, IL in 1850? >> >> Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? >> >> Bess >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM >> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >> Hello Bess >> I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. >> The >> only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another >> later >> on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 >> and >> he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and >> Uncles. >> >> I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a >> needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. >> Thank you this is greatly appreciated >> Lorraine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> >> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM >> Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >>> Lorraine, >>> >>> The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: >>> >>> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret >>> James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children >>> no >>> wife >>> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth >>> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 >>> James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 >>> >>> I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? >>> >>> Bess >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] >>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM >>> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >>> >>> >>> Hello List >>> I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. >>> Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? >>> >>> I would like to request a look-up for three family members. >>> John H. TODD >>> William M. TODD >>> James & Juliana Todd DAVIS >>> >>> 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of >>> Bourbon >>> Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky >>> Hooper >>> Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by >>> the >>> 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. >>> >>> Any help greatly appreciated >>> Lorraine Llewellyn >>> Falcon MO >>> >>> >>> ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== >>> Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. "Problems with the Shelby Co IL > Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >