> Dear Carolyn, In reply to you message I don't know > who Tobias's parents are but I am a distant something > to him. My Grandmothers, mother's, mother. Her Father > was Jacob Joseph Renner & his father was Tobias. Not > counting my Grandmother thats back 4 greats in > grandparents. I guess thus far I haven't looked at the > Shelby Moultrie Book., not that I remember anyway. > I have been doing a little on The above names for a > very short time frame now maybe 3 months as I've > been very busy on the GOOD line. All of this is on my > Dad's mothers side. Some interesting facts is a John > Stoner married a Elizabeth Oberholtzer Renner after > 1818. She was born Aug. 1779 & died Nov 15, > 1842. Elizabeth was the widow of Abraham Renner > On March 29, 1819 The Fredick Co, MD Orphans > Court Book HS3, appointed Elizabeth guardian of > her eight children by her 1st husband. Her Securties > for this appointment were Adam Renner & her Future > husband John Stoner. The children were identified as > William Renner born 10/15/1799. John Renner > born 01/08/1803. Joseph Renner born 01/11/ > 1805. Noah Renner 04/16/1807. Sophia Renner > born 04/05/1809 Isaac Renner 03/23/1811 > Susanna Renner 05/20/1813 and Elizabeth > Renner 09/29/1816... It is presumed that these > Childrem lived with John & Elizabeth after they got > married in 1819 or 1820. My thoughts are there is > a connection to Tobias either Adam Renner was > Abraham's Father or Brother & I'm guessing brother > possibly Tobias's Father??? or maybe even Abraham > was a cousin??? But I'm 99 & 100's % sure these folks > has something really strong to do with Tobias. Your > better at all this stuff than me so I'll let you fill me in > when or as you find out OK?. Nice meeting you > through this way... Terry R. Good -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for the wonderful posting of the Shelby/Moultrie > Book. What a wonderful labor of love. Have enjoyed > reading it. > > Still searching for loose ends on my RENNER and SHAY > lines. As stated in the book, my TOBIAS RENNER and > his wife Cynthia Smith came to Shelby Co in 1838 > from Ohio with the SHAYS. However, Tobias Renner > and Synthia Smith were originally from PA. I am still > trying to find parents for both Tobias and Synthia > (also spelled Cynthia). Tobias died Oct 14, 1845 > and is buried in Richland Cemetery n Richland Township. > Cynthia died April 30, 1868. Is there any chance of > finding any burial records or obits for this time period. > I do have a copy of Tobias will or estate settlement. > > As for my SHAY line, Abram SHAY died April 1, 1842 > in Shelby Co. He left a widow Ruth with several > children. I am trying to find a maiden name for Ruth? > Any suggestions. Abram's son John Shay was the > executor of his estate but I have not located a will. > > All leads appreciated. THANKS > > Carolyn in Oklahoma >