Hi again Pat I don't have a middle name for James Davis, so far not ever mentioned on any documents found on him. Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "C D Wood" <wood.c@sbcglobal.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Re: James Davis, Shelby County > Possibly Knox County, I have researched the Davis line for 30 years. > James Davis in my family was born this same year. His parents were Soloman > and Lucinda Davis of Knox county Illinois. Do you have a middle initial. > Believe he married a Carolyn Bonesteel. > > Pat and Clem Stephens <patclem2@yahoo.com> wrote:I have a James Davis born > September 16,1832 in the Sand Creek Area, Shelby County, IL. I believe his > father to be Daniel Davis, but I have yet to find proof of this. > > > Pat and Clem Stephens > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >

Hi Pat I posted to the list earlier , maybe we should compair notes on these families. Lorraine Llewellyn PS I'll be out all afternoon today ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat and Clem Stephens" <patclem2@yahoo.com> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:18 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Re: James Davis, Shelby County >I have a James Davis born September 16,1832 in the Sand Creek Area, Shelby >County, IL. I believe his father to be Daniel Davis, but I have yet to find >proof of this. > > > Pat and Clem Stephens > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >

Hi Pat I don't know if there is any connection between your James Davis and mine, maybe we can do some collaboration on these families together and see what we can find. Contact me of list and we'll compare our finding together. I am just starting the research in Shelby Co ILL. so, maybe we can sort it out together. Lorraine Llewellyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "C D Wood" <wood.c@sbcglobal.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Re: James Davis, Shelby County > Possibly Knox County, I have researched the Davis line for 30 years. > James Davis in my family was born this same year. His parents were Soloman > and Lucinda Davis of Knox county Illinois. Do you have a middle initial. > Believe he married a Carolyn Bonesteel. > > Pat and Clem Stephens <patclem2@yahoo.com> wrote:I have a James Davis born > September 16,1832 in the Sand Creek Area, Shelby County, IL. I believe his > father to be Daniel Davis, but I have yet to find proof of this. > > > Pat and Clem Stephens > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >

Hi Eileen This explains what happened to James Davis husband to Juliana Todd Davis, and why he can not be found in 1850 census and why she is living with her brother John H. Todd family in 1850 Wisconsin. What took them that far north is a big question too. Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Bridges" <35Hup@consolidated.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Lorraine - Now for Davis - > > In Shelby Co., IL Probate Journal II, Part I, pages 41 to 43 [This is > from > the Shelby Co. Hist/Gen publication] > > 21 Feb 1846 - James Davis Estate > > Represented that James Davis died intestate on or about the 9th day of > January A. D. 1846. Julian Davis appointed Administratrix. Bond in the > penal sum of $1500 signed by Julian Davis and Gerge W. Clinkinbeard as > security. John Douthit, Michael Litz and Henry Helton appointed > appraisers. > Inventory dated Mary 7, 1846 lists "Interest in his father's estate, > Bourbon > County, Kentucky not known" Appraisement Bill filed. Ordered that the > Adms. pay the sum set to their names: > > to Julian Davis, widow - $67.13 > to Thomas Davis - 33.32 > to Francis M. Davis - 33.32 > to James B. Davis - 33.34 > to Baalis M Davis - 33.32 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >

Dear Eileen WOW !! Everyone has been so very helpful on this list, it is amazing what everyone has found for me. Do you know where these records would be keep, I would like to send for copies of the pages for each one? I do a very deep research when studing the family, it helps me get to know each one personally. I am wondering about Francis M. Todd who recieved $15.05 of John H. Todd, is it possible that she was the daughter of William M. Todd and wife Lutecia; Lutecia was living with John H. Todd in the 1850 Wisconsin census along with Francis M. and others of William Todd's family? This would make John H. Todd her/his Uncle and according to this info here maybe and aminstrator of the Estate for William M. Todd. But, to date I have not found a connection with any Todd family who have a Francis Todd as head of family, this may very well be the clue to the partents of John Todd Sr. & Edward Todd Sr. who were in Fayette County 1784~1790/91. again, John Sr. was Benjamin B. Todd father and grandfather to John H. Todd of the entries here in your email. Interesting, need to know more on this person. Nicholas Co. is Next county to Bourbon Co KY. from 'Paris City' in Bourbon Co, to county line it is 9.4 miles with Nicholas Co line. Most likely about 10 to 15 miles from where they live when there father Benjamin B Todd was living prior to his death. Amazing amount of info to sort out, how wonderful! Lorraine Llewellyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Bridges" <35Hup@consolidated.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Lorraine - In 1840 Shelby County, Illinois is listed John H. Todd > [00001-000000001]. When I had read the 1840 census, I noted that he was > on > pg 4. The census did not indicate districts in Shelby County for 1840. > It > looks as he were single and had an older woman [possibly mother] living > with > him. > > In March of 1840, there is a William Todd listed as a purchaser at the > estate sale or John Potts. From the land description it looks like John > Potts owned land in Todd's Point which bordered Moultrie Co. > > There is a marriage record for John H. Todd who married Neomia Killam, 29 > Apr 1841, B. W. Henry officiating > > Also a marriage record for Wm. M. Todd who married Lucreta Demert, 22 Aug > 1834, B. W. Henry officiating > > I am assuming that B. W. Henry was Bushrod W. Henry, early Christian > Church > preacher in Shelby Co. IL. > > I did not find any Todds in 1850 or 1860 in Shelby Co. > > Now in Shelby County Probate Court, 1 Oct 1844 is an estate record for > Francis Todd. John H. Todd appointed administrator and also is listed as > a > purchaser at the sale along with Thomas Davis, Michael Gregory, and > Carlisle > Deval. > Listed in pages 103 and 104, in Probate Journal II part I > > In Probate Journal II, part II, pg 493 Came Isaac Killam, guardian for > Francis Mariah Todd, a minor and made a settlement which included "$15.05 > received of John H. Todd, said minors father cash" which I interpret to > mean > either that the Francis Todd who died in 1844, had a minor child, Francis > Mariah Todd, for whom John H. Todd, adm. of Francis Todd, submitted cash > to > the guardian from the estate - or another interpretation could be that > John > H. Todd was said minor's father. It is very difficult to assess as to the > meaning of this entry. > > A biography of John Thomas Killiam of Shelby Co., IL stated that a John > Todd > married Naomi Killiam, d/o Peter Killiam. I don't know the connection of > the two Killiams but they seemed to have migrated from Nicholas Co., KY in > the 1830's. > > Buried in Craig Cemetery, which is located in Sec. 28, Ridge Twp. about > three miles north and three miles west of Shelbyville: > > Peter Killiam ; Died Sept. 11, 1838; Aged 60 yrs.6 mo. > Leah, wife of Peter Kiliam; Died Nov. 17, 1832; Aged 55 yrs, 2 mo, 28ds > William Kiliam, Pvt., 3 Ill. Vols. Mex. War; 3 Jul 1852 > Namoi, wife of J. H. Todd; Died Nov. 2, 1847; Aged 27 yrs, 3 mo. 12 ds. > > Now this is interesting - > > 1850 Iowa Co., Wisconsin, Dodgevlle > > 1117/1117 - John H. Todd, 42, KY, clerk > Lutecia, 34, IL > William H., 12 IL > Charles, 10 IL > Francis M., female, 6 IL > Francis E., female, 5 Wisc > Francis Barrett, female, 20 IL > Martha Phillips, 23 IL > Julian Davis, 45 KY > Bayless Davis, 11 IL > Hanah Williams, 25, Wales > Charles Nourse, 21 KY,clerk > B. F. Thomas, 25 NY, clerk > John J. Jones, 22 Wales, clerk > B. M. Henry, 21 VA, clerk > > Note the Julian [Julia Ann?] > > I don't know if these are the ones you are looking for but maybe you can > glean something from it. > > Eileen Bridges > > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > >

Hi Bess Correction on departure of John & Edward Todd family from Fayette Co PA was 1790/91 and arrival Bourbon Co KY. 1792 Tax list Bourbon, plus many other court documents until estates settled in 1813 or there abouts. Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Llewellyn" <Forefathers@leblink.com> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Hi Bess > I do not know when they were born, Juliana Todd Davis' father did not > arrive in Bourbon Co KY until 1808 or so. > His father John Todd Sr. & John's brother Edward Todd arrived from Fayette > Co. PA. 1790. [I have cases on this also] Edward died 1795, John Todd Sr. > died 1809, John Todd Jr. Benjamin's brother died 1828 Bourbon Co KY. > Benjamin B. Todd then the surviving elder lived near these children in > North Middletown Bourbon Co. until some time after 1830 where he bought a > lot in Paris Bourbon Co. > Benjamin may have had another wife prior to coming to Bourbon Co. There > are not many Benjamin's of this time frame anywhere in the US and I have > been in touch with researchers of the others Benjamin. lines, so this is > like John in this Todd family to many in each generation just to pick one > an say this is the right family. > > The following is what I have that leads me to Shelby Co ILL. > > I don't know how long William M. Todd and John H. Todd were in Shelby > county but they were there on 8th day of 1838, date the court case was > written, a copy of which I have from the County Court Records of Bourbon, > Deed Bk. 37 pg 241~242, transcription follows. > > Bourbon County Deed Book 37 pg. 241~242 [personally copied by Lorraine > Llewellyn at Paris Court House Bourbon Co KY 2004] > 1838 Benjamin B. Todd, Heirs Deed to David R. Williams In. Lot W. 88 > Paris, Bourbon County Kentucky > This indenture made this eight day of November AD one thousand thirty > eight between John H. Todd, William ^M Todd and Leticia A. his wife and > James Davis and Juliana his wife late Juliana Todd of the County of Shelby > and state of Illinois a party of the first part and David R. Williams of > the County of Bourbon and State of Kentucky, a party of the second part > __________ that the said party of the first part for and in consideration > of the sum of two hundred dollars in hand paid the receipt whereof is > hereby acknowledged hereby granted bargained and sold and by these > presents do grant bargain sell covey and confirm unto the said party of > the second part all that piece or parcel of Land or Lot of ground situated > on Pleasant Street in the Town of Paris and County aforesaid it being lot > number eighty eight designated on the plat of said Town - said lot is > bounded on the NW by Pleasant Street, NE by a lot belonging to Joseph > Stephens on the SE by H T Duncan & SW by the same said lot measures 66 > feet in front and extends back two hundred & fourteen feet -- Together > with all the premises improvements rights and privileges thereunto > belonging or in any wise appertaining. To have and to hold the land > premises and appurtenances aforesaid unto the said party of the first part > do covenant and bind themselves their heirs executors & assignees > _________ to warrant and forever defend the land premises & appentences > aforesaid unto the said party of the second part his heirs, and assigns > against the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever. > In testimony Whereof the said party of the first part have here unto set > their hands and seals the day and year first above written. John H. Todd, > Seal; Wm. M. Todd, Seal; Leticia A. Todd, Seal; James Davis, Seal; Juliana > Davis; Seal > > As you see this is what leads me to Shelby Co Ill. > I have so many court cases that involve this family that it is impossible > to unwind it all in one email. > > John Sr. John Jr., Jane Todd widow of Edward are on the 1800 census for > Bourbon. By 1833 all of the children of John Sr. and some of Edwards > children have left Bourbon Co.KY for Pike Co MO and Pike Co, Ill. along > with acouple in Brown and Calhoun Co Ill. All these I have chased down to > this generation. Five surviving male members and five surviving female > member I am in contact with now. > > Lorraine Llewellyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> > To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:51 PM > Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > >> >> Lorraine, >> >> So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as >> grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? >> >> That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL >> would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they >> were >> in Shelby County, IL in 1850? >> >> Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? >> >> Bess >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM >> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >> Hello Bess >> I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. >> The >> only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another >> later >> on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 >> and >> he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and >> Uncles. >> >> I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a >> needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. >> Thank you this is greatly appreciated >> Lorraine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> >> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM >> Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >>> Lorraine, >>> >>> The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: >>> >>> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret >>> James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children >>> no >>> wife >>> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth >>> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 >>> James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 >>> >>> I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? >>> >>> Bess >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] >>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM >>> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >>> >>> >>> Hello List >>> I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. >>> Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? >>> >>> I would like to request a look-up for three family members. >>> John H. TODD >>> William M. TODD >>> James & Juliana Todd DAVIS >>> >>> 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of >>> Bourbon >>> Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky >>> Hooper >>> Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by >>> the >>> 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. >>> >>> Any help greatly appreciated >>> Lorraine Llewellyn >>> Falcon MO >>> >>> >>> ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== >>> Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. "Problems with the Shelby Co IL > Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >

Lorraine Correction for last email - 1860 Shelby Co. should be Balas Davis not Dalas Davis - Thanks. Eileen

Lorraine - More on Davis - 1860 Shelby Co., IL - South Division, Shelby Tp. 1154/1154 - Juiann Davis, 54 KY, private [income] Dalas, 21 IL, laborer Boales M Davis married Elmira Herrod, 11 Feb 1862, Shelby Co., IL, Peter P. Warren, officiating 1870 Shelby Co., IL, Shelby Twp. 132/135 - Balis Davis, 31 IL, farmer Elmira, 24 IL Jefferson Davis, 7 IL Charles, 5 IL Mary, 2 IL 1880 Shelby Co., IL, Shelbyville Twp. 155/155 - Balis M. Davis, 39 IL KY KY, farmer Elmira, wife, 35 IL KY TN Jefferson M., son, 16 IL IL IL Charles, son, 14 IL IL IL Frances, dau, 12 IL IL IL Roy E., son 7 IL IL IL Ione M., dau, 1 IL IL IL Getting late - let us know if any of this helps. Eileen Bridges

Lorraine - Now for Davis - In Shelby Co., IL Probate Journal II, Part I, pages 41 to 43 [This is from the Shelby Co. Hist/Gen publication] 21 Feb 1846 - James Davis Estate Represented that James Davis died intestate on or about the 9th day of January A. D. 1846. Julian Davis appointed Administratrix. Bond in the penal sum of $1500 signed by Julian Davis and Gerge W. Clinkinbeard as security. John Douthit, Michael Litz and Henry Helton appointed appraisers. Inventory dated Mary 7, 1846 lists "Interest in his father's estate, Bourbon County, Kentucky not known" Appraisement Bill filed. Ordered that the Adms. pay the sum set to their names: to Julian Davis, widow - $67.13 to Thomas Davis - 33.32 to Francis M. Davis - 33.32 to James B. Davis - 33.34 to Baalis M Davis - 33.32

Lorraine - In 1840 Shelby County, Illinois is listed John H. Todd [00001-000000001]. When I had read the 1840 census, I noted that he was on pg 4. The census did not indicate districts in Shelby County for 1840. It looks as he were single and had an older woman [possibly mother] living with him. In March of 1840, there is a William Todd listed as a purchaser at the estate sale or John Potts. From the land description it looks like John Potts owned land in Todd's Point which bordered Moultrie Co. There is a marriage record for John H. Todd who married Neomia Killam, 29 Apr 1841, B. W. Henry officiating Also a marriage record for Wm. M. Todd who married Lucreta Demert, 22 Aug 1834, B. W. Henry officiating I am assuming that B. W. Henry was Bushrod W. Henry, early Christian Church preacher in Shelby Co. IL. I did not find any Todds in 1850 or 1860 in Shelby Co. Now in Shelby County Probate Court, 1 Oct 1844 is an estate record for Francis Todd. John H. Todd appointed administrator and also is listed as a purchaser at the sale along with Thomas Davis, Michael Gregory, and Carlisle Deval. Listed in pages 103 and 104, in Probate Journal II part I In Probate Journal II, part II, pg 493 Came Isaac Killam, guardian for Francis Mariah Todd, a minor and made a settlement which included "$15.05 received of John H. Todd, said minors father cash" which I interpret to mean either that the Francis Todd who died in 1844, had a minor child, Francis Mariah Todd, for whom John H. Todd, adm. of Francis Todd, submitted cash to the guardian from the estate - or another interpretation could be that John H. Todd was said minor's father. It is very difficult to assess as to the meaning of this entry. A biography of John Thomas Killiam of Shelby Co., IL stated that a John Todd married Naomi Killiam, d/o Peter Killiam. I don't know the connection of the two Killiams but they seemed to have migrated from Nicholas Co., KY in the 1830's. Buried in Craig Cemetery, which is located in Sec. 28, Ridge Twp. about three miles north and three miles west of Shelbyville: Peter Killiam ; Died Sept. 11, 1838; Aged 60 yrs.6 mo. Leah, wife of Peter Kiliam; Died Nov. 17, 1832; Aged 55 yrs, 2 mo, 28ds William Kiliam, Pvt., 3 Ill. Vols. Mex. War; 3 Jul 1852 Namoi, wife of J. H. Todd; Died Nov. 2, 1847; Aged 27 yrs, 3 mo. 12 ds. Now this is interesting - 1850 Iowa Co., Wisconsin, Dodgevlle 1117/1117 - John H. Todd, 42, KY, clerk Lutecia, 34, IL William H., 12 IL Charles, 10 IL Francis M., female, 6 IL Francis E., female, 5 Wisc Francis Barrett, female, 20 IL Martha Phillips, 23 IL Julian Davis, 45 KY Bayless Davis, 11 IL Hanah Williams, 25, Wales Charles Nourse, 21 KY,clerk B. F. Thomas, 25 NY, clerk John J. Jones, 22 Wales, clerk B. M. Henry, 21 VA, clerk Note the Julian [Julia Ann?] I don't know if these are the ones you are looking for but maybe you can glean something from it. Eileen Bridges

Possibly Knox County, I have researched the Davis line for 30 years. James Davis in my family was born this same year. His parents were Soloman and Lucinda Davis of Knox county Illinois. Do you have a middle initial. Believe he married a Carolyn Bonesteel. Pat and Clem Stephens <patclem2@yahoo.com> wrote:I have a James Davis born September 16,1832 in the Sand Creek Area, Shelby County, IL. I believe his father to be Daniel Davis, but I have yet to find proof of this. Pat and Clem Stephens --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== Do not send Virus messages to the list. "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." timcasey1@earthlink.net

Hi Bess I do not know when they were born, Juliana Todd Davis' father did not arrive in Bourbon Co KY until 1808 or so. His father John Todd Sr. & John's brother Edward Todd arrived from Fayette Co. PA. 1790. [I have cases on this also] Edward died 1795, John Todd Sr. died 1809, John Todd Jr. Benjamin's brother died 1828 Bourbon Co KY. Benjamin B. Todd then the surviving elder lived near these children in North Middletown Bourbon Co. until some time after 1830 where he bought a lot in Paris Bourbon Co. Benjamin may have had another wife prior to coming to Bourbon Co. There are not many Benjamin's of this time frame anywhere in the US and I have been in touch with researchers of the others Benjamin. lines, so this is like John in this Todd family to many in each generation just to pick one an say this is the right family. The following is what I have that leads me to Shelby Co ILL. I don't know how long William M. Todd and John H. Todd were in Shelby county but they were there on 8th day of 1838, date the court case was written, a copy of which I have from the County Court Records of Bourbon, Deed Bk. 37 pg 241~242, transcription follows. Bourbon County Deed Book 37 pg. 241~242 [personally copied by Lorraine Llewellyn at Paris Court House Bourbon Co KY 2004] 1838 Benjamin B. Todd, Heirs Deed to David R. Williams In. Lot W. 88 Paris, Bourbon County Kentucky This indenture made this eight day of November AD one thousand thirty eight between John H. Todd, William ^M Todd and Leticia A. his wife and James Davis and Juliana his wife late Juliana Todd of the County of Shelby and state of Illinois a party of the first part and David R. Williams of the County of Bourbon and State of Kentucky, a party of the second part __________ that the said party of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred dollars in hand paid the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged hereby granted bargained and sold and by these presents do grant bargain sell covey and confirm unto the said party of the second part all that piece or parcel of Land or Lot of ground situated on Pleasant Street in the Town of Paris and County aforesaid it being lot number eighty eight designated on the plat of said Town - said lot is bounded on the NW by Pleasant Street, NE by a lot belonging to Joseph Stephens on the SE by H T Duncan & SW by the same said lot measures 66 feet in front and extends back two hundred & fourteen feet -- Together with all the premises improvements rights and privileges thereunto belonging or in any wise appertaining. To have and to hold the land premises and appurtenances aforesaid unto the said party of the first part do covenant and bind themselves their heirs executors & assignees _________ to warrant and forever defend the land premises & appentences aforesaid unto the said party of the second part his heirs, and assigns against the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever. In testimony Whereof the said party of the first part have here unto set their hands and seals the day and year first above written. John H. Todd, Seal; Wm. M. Todd, Seal; Leticia A. Todd, Seal; James Davis, Seal; Juliana Davis; Seal As you see this is what leads me to Shelby Co Ill. I have so many court cases that involve this family that it is impossible to unwind it all in one email. John Sr. John Jr., Jane Todd widow of Edward are on the 1800 census for Bourbon. By 1833 all of the children of John Sr. and some of Edwards children have left Bourbon Co.KY for Pike Co MO and Pike Co, Ill. along with acouple in Brown and Calhoun Co Ill. All these I have chased down to this generation. Five surviving male members and five surviving female member I am in contact with now. Lorraine Llewellyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > Lorraine, > > So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as > grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? > > That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL > would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they were > in Shelby County, IL in 1850? > > Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? > > Bess > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM > To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > > Hello Bess > I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. > The > only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another later > on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 and > he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and > Uncles. > > I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a > needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. > Thank you this is greatly appreciated > Lorraine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> > To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM > Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > >> Lorraine, >> >> The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: >> >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret >> James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children >> no >> wife >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 >> James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 >> >> I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? >> >> Bess >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM >> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >> Hello List >> I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. >> Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? >> >> I would like to request a look-up for three family members. >> John H. TODD >> William M. TODD >> James & Juliana Todd DAVIS >> >> 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of >> Bourbon >> Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper >> Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by >> the >> 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. >> >> Any help greatly appreciated >> Lorraine Llewellyn >> Falcon MO >> >> >> ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm

I have a James Davis born September 16,1832 in the Sand Creek Area, Shelby County, IL. I believe his father to be Daniel Davis, but I have yet to find proof of this. Pat and Clem Stephens --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Bess I'll have to answer you later storms coming in now I have to get off the computer for now. Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > Lorraine, > > So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as > grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? > > That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL > would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they were > in Shelby County, IL in 1850? > > Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? > > Bess > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM > To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > > Hello Bess > I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. > The > only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another later > on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 and > he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and > Uncles. > > I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a > needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. > Thank you this is greatly appreciated > Lorraine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> > To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM > Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > >> Lorraine, >> >> The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: >> >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret >> James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children >> no >> wife >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth >> James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 >> James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 >> >> I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? >> >> Bess >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM >> To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please >> >> >> Hello List >> I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. >> Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? >> >> I would like to request a look-up for three family members. >> John H. TODD >> William M. TODD >> James & Juliana Todd DAVIS >> >> 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of >> Bourbon >> Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper >> Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by >> the >> 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. >> >> Any help greatly appreciated >> Lorraine Llewellyn >> Falcon MO >> >> >> ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm >> >> >> >> >> ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm >> >> > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RENFROE - MACHEN - NOLL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vh.2ADE/886 Message Board Post: I am searching for the parents of Joseph Renfroe born 1854 in Illinois, Joseph married Amanda Machen/Machan born 1855 in Mississippi. Joseph's father and mother was born in Tenn. Amanda Machen father was born Alabama & mother was born in Tenn. . Joseph and Amanda were the parents of three children. Robert born 1876, Fuello born 1877, and Cavori born 1880. They were all born at Gray Twp. White County, Arkansas. Joseph Robert married Emma Mcqueen and one known daughter was born to them Sylvia Renfroe born in Illinois and she married Phillip Noll, as in the 1930 census St. Louis, Missouri shows Sylvia age 31, married at age 15, Phillip Noll age 34, Phillip Noll was born at Hamburg Germany, Immigrated in 1911 at Pa. Phillip and Sylvia were the parents of 9 children, Peter 11, Joseph 10, Dorothy 9, William 7, James 6, John 5, Elizabeth 3, Lois 2, Francis 2/12. If there is some one that might connect this line, I will really appreciate any help finding the parents of Joseph Renfroe born 1854 in Illinois & Amanda Machan born 1855. Thank you very much. God Bless you. jot72121@alltel.net

Lorraine, So, Julianna Todd married James Davis in KY in 1823, and both served as grantors in KY in 1838... Were they (couple)born abt 1800? That would mean everyone listed on the 1850 census for Shelby County, IL would be too young to be "your" Davis line. What makes you think they were in Shelby County, IL in 1850? Are the Todd's on the 1800 census for KY? Bess -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com]Lorraine, Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:21 PM To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please Hello Bess I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. The only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another later on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 and he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and Uncles. I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. Thank you this is greatly appreciated Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Lorraine, > > The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: > > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret > James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children > no > wife > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 > James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 > > I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? > > Bess > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM > To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > > Hello List > I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. > Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? > > I would like to request a look-up for three family members. > John H. TODD > William M. TODD > James & Juliana Todd DAVIS > > 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of Bourbon > Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper > Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by > the > 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. > > Any help greatly appreciated > Lorraine Llewellyn > Falcon MO > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm

Hi Shaunee Thank you for trying, it is greatly appreciated. Lorraine Llewellyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <Shauneeh@aol.com> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Hi, > > I did not find any Todds in the 1850 Shelby County, IL census. > > Shaunee Powe > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus messages to the list. > "Problems with the Shelby Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey." > timcasey1@earthlink.net > >

Hello Bess I am not sure if any one of these James Davis you found are my family. The only thing I do know for a fact is that his wife (1st? maybe another later on) was a Juliana Todd they were married in Bourbon Co KY.June 12 1823 and he was in North Middletown 1820 Bourbon Co KY, near her parents and Uncles. I'll keep this message and see what else comes my way, I know this is a needle in a hay stack, but it was worth a try. Thank you this is greatly appreciated Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronbessantes" <ronbessantes@earthlink.net> To: <ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > Lorraine, > > The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: > > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret > James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children > no > wife > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth > James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 > James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 > > I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? > > Bess > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM > To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please > > > Hello List > I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. > Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? > > I would like to request a look-up for three family members. > John H. TODD > William M. TODD > James & Juliana Todd DAVIS > > 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of Bourbon > Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper > Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by > the > 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. > > Any help greatly appreciated > Lorraine Llewellyn > Falcon MO > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > > > > > ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm > >

Lorraine, The 1850 census lists the following for Shelby County, IL: James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1825 Kentucky and wife Margaret James Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL abt 1811 Pennsylvania with children no wife James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1816 Virginia and wife Elizabeth James Davis Town D, Shelby, IL abt 1844 Illinois age 6 James T Davis Sand Creek, Shelby, IL Illinois age 2 I have Hoopers in my line... who were Franky's parents? Bess -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine Llewellyn [mailto:Forefathers@leblink.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:45 AM To: ILSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILSHELBY] RE: 1850 Census LOOK UP Please Hello List I am new to Shelby Co ILL list. Does anyone have the 1850 Sehlby Co Federal Census? I would like to request a look-up for three family members. John H. TODD William M. TODD James & Juliana Todd DAVIS 1838 all were listed as Grantors in Deed to a David R. WILLIAMS of Bourbon Co KY. The three Todd's were born children of Benjamin B. & Franky Hooper Todd. I do not know when they move to Shelby Co but could have been by the 1840 Census as there father died before or during the year of 1838. Any help greatly appreciated Lorraine Llewellyn Falcon MO ==== ILSHELBY Mailing List ==== Visit the Shelby Co IL ILGenWeb Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilshelb2/shelby.htm

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