Bill,How did you do it Iwant just a couple of death certificates and what cemetery they are in.so need all the help I can get,just tell me who you contacted.Ruth

I'm looking for the grave site of gggrandfather buried there,I'm in Mt.ruth

Dear Elam, Thank you for the info. Ervin Self moved to Carroll County, Arkansas by 1840. Erby Self married Mary ?? and by 1840 they too are in Carroll County, Arkansas. Mary was born in Illinois and she and Erby's first child was born in Illinois. I have not been able to find Erby Self anywhere in 1860 and wonder if he may have gone back to Illinois. Mary is back in Arkansas in 1870 with her children. Can find no record of Erby being in the Civil War. Am trying to find the info on Ervin or Evin as is transcribed sometimes, to try and connect him to Erby. Thanks for all the help the list is sending. I appreciate it VERY much. Reply with original message X-Original-Sender:    [email protected] In all the 90 cemetary listings done by Ed Bodecker that I have and the Shelby Co., IL 1850 census, I find not one listing for the surname: SELF. Listed in the Jordan Cemetary are these Douthits: John Douthit--B. SC--10/25/1792-d.10/10/1868 Matilda, wife of J. Douthit- age 64 yrs.-d. 2/6/1871 William H. Douthit-- 5/9/1841-7/16/1898 Rhoda A.E. Douthit--2/28/1842-2/13/1932 William E. son of W.H. & R.A.E. Douthit-8/1/1870-4 mo. Francis M. dau of W.H. & R.A. E. Douthit-12 yrs.-d.2/9/1877 Evan A. Douthit- 1866 - 1949 Andrew E. Douthit- age 74 yrs- d. 3/17/1889 Mary Ann wife of A.E. Douthit-b.Franklin Co. IL, 5/28/1814- d. 8/23/1871 Eliza B. wife of A.E. Douthit- b. Sharpsburg, Washington Co, MD, 11/16/1841- d. 3/8/1879 Levi N. Douthit - 2/4/1841 - 2/1/1918 Mary J. his wife- 2/28/1843 - 4/7/1896 Hardin H. Douthit- 1880 - 1950 Eva L. Douthit - 1884- 1963 Francis M. Douthit - 1/29/1845 - 11/9/1915 Lydia M. Douthit - 1/12/1845 - 11/6/1931 Andrew E. Douthit - 1873 - 1945 Elfa Douthit - 1873 - 1961 John J. Douthit - 1875 - 1952 Nellie Douthit - 1879 - 1959 Wm. F. Douthit - 9/24/1849 - 6/25/1919 Mary E. his wife - 8/18/1859 - 6/22/1945 May Douthit - 1877 - 1961 George W. Douthit - age 2 yrs - d. 187- There are many unmarked graves in this cemetary. There are 2 Douthit families listed in the 1850 Shelby Co Census : DOUTHIT A. E.---36.......farming-----1,600-----b. TN ANN---36----------------------------b. IL JOHN T.-15--------------------------b. IL MARGARET 12----------------------b. IL LEVI N.---10-------------------------b. IL MARION--6--------------------------b.TX? GEORGE --3--------------------------b. IL? WILLIAM - 1-------------------------b. IL? DOUTHIT JOHN ---57-----farming---------------b. SC MATILDA-45-------------------------b. KY JAMES --30---------------------------b. TN NANCY-20---------------------------b. TN W.H.-----9----------------------------b. IL This is all I could find. Nancy Elam-Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] marriage in Shelby County Illinois This is what I come up with on the Self that I am trying to find the marriage date for. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900             GROOM     BRIDE     CNTY     DATE   VOL/PAGE   LIC ______________________________________________ SELF, EVIN                           DOUTHIT, MALINDA (DATE IN DOUBT) SHELBY     00/00/1836   1/ 36         Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900

I'm also looking in Shelby,Il.,I'm in Billings ,Mt.I'm looking for my g=g=grandfather that is buried in Shelby co. Ruth

In a message dated 5/13/01 3:02:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I found where Evin Self married Malinda Douthit in Shelby County but the transcribed info says date is in question. Was wondering if you could please look in the county books for this marriage the year may be 1836 and this might be found on page 36 of book 1 >> Anita, try this http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s Enter the name (either) and county or statewide - when you find the record you are looking for scan to right for complete record. When you first get this site, instructions will be there for obtaining copy of the record. Good luck. Carol

I might be able to look if I knew something more

In all the 90 cemetary listings done by Ed Bodecker that I have and the Shelby Co., IL 1850 census, I find not one listing for the surname: SELF. Listed in the Jordan Cemetary are these Douthits: John Douthit--B. SC--10/25/1792-d.10/10/1868 Matilda, wife of J. Douthit- age 64 yrs.-d. 2/6/1871 William H. Douthit-- 5/9/1841-7/16/1898 Rhoda A.E. Douthit--2/28/1842-2/13/1932 William E. son of W.H. & R.A.E. Douthit-8/1/1870-4 mo. Francis M. dau of W.H. & R.A. E. Douthit-12 yrs.-d.2/9/1877 Evan A. Douthit- 1866 - 1949 Andrew E. Douthit- age 74 yrs- d. 3/17/1889 Mary Ann wife of A.E. Douthit-b.Franklin Co. IL, 5/28/1814- d. 8/23/1871 Eliza B. wife of A.E. Douthit- b. Sharpsburg, Washington Co, MD, 11/16/1841- d. 3/8/1879 Levi N. Douthit - 2/4/1841 - 2/1/1918 Mary J. his wife- 2/28/1843 - 4/7/1896 Hardin H. Douthit- 1880 - 1950 Eva L. Douthit - 1884- 1963 Francis M. Douthit - 1/29/1845 - 11/9/1915 Lydia M. Douthit - 1/12/1845 - 11/6/1931 Andrew E. Douthit - 1873 - 1945 Elfa Douthit - 1873 - 1961 John J. Douthit - 1875 - 1952 Nellie Douthit - 1879 - 1959 Wm. F. Douthit - 9/24/1849 - 6/25/1919 Mary E. his wife - 8/18/1859 - 6/22/1945 May Douthit - 1877 - 1961 George W. Douthit - age 2 yrs - d. 187- There are many unmarked graves in this cemetary. There are 2 Douthit families listed in the 1850 Shelby Co Census : DOUTHIT A. E.---36.......farming-----1,600-----b. TN ANN---36----------------------------b. IL JOHN T.-15--------------------------b. IL MARGARET 12----------------------b. IL LEVI N.---10-------------------------b. IL MARION--6--------------------------b.TX? GEORGE --3--------------------------b. IL? WILLIAM - 1-------------------------b. IL? DOUTHIT JOHN ---57-----farming---------------b. SC MATILDA-45-------------------------b. KY JAMES --30---------------------------b. TN NANCY-20---------------------------b. TN W.H.-----9----------------------------b. IL This is all I could find. Nancy Elam-Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] marriage in Shelby County Illinois > This is what I come up with on the Self that I am trying to find the > marriage date for. > > Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 > > > GROOM BRIDE CNTY DATE VOL/PAGE LIC > ___________________________________________________________ > SELF, EVIN DOUTHIT, MALINDA (DATE IN DOUBT) > SHELBY 00/00/1836 1/ 36 Illinois Statewide Marriage > Index 1763 - 1900 > >

This is what I come up with on the Self that I am trying to find the marriage date for. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 GROOM BRIDE CNTY DATE VOL/PAGE LIC ___________________________________________________________ SELF, EVIN DOUTHIT, MALINDA (DATE IN DOUBT) SHELBY 00/00/1836 1/ 36 Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900

The Shelby county Historical society will look up documents for you. http://www.shelbycohistgen.org/ this is the Illinois data base search link for marriage records from the 1700 on http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s Type in grooms name or brides name or both and the county looking in hint if it comes up with NO Data try altering you commas or spaces sometimes it will help pull up data do it exactly as shown on the example. I have used both and both are very helpful Jan

Andrew I notice your last name is Robertson. My maiden names was Robertson and I'm researching Robertson who lived in Shelby Co. The line is Robert, Nathan, Samuel, James. Migrated from MD> KY> IN>IL>IA. Some members went directly from KY to IL. Does any of this follow your family lines? Sondra "andrew P. Robertson" wrote: > And Kentucky and so on. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriage record > > > Dear Ruth, > > Shelby County is in Illinois. > > The 1836 date is as close as I have. > > Thank you so much for any help you can give. > > Anita > > > > original message > > I don't know where Shelby Co is ,I'm In Yellowstone and I would need a > > date.Montana Ruth > > > > > > ====================================== > > Mail message > > From: [email protected] Date: Sat, May 12, 2001, 11:48pm > > > > Is there someone that could please do a look-up for me out of the > > goodness of their heart? > > I found where Evin Self married Malinda Douthit in Shelby County but the > > transcribed info says date is in question. Was wondering if you could > > please look in the county books for this marriage the year may be 1836 > > and this might be found on page 36 of book 1 Would be happy to pay for > > photo copy and postage if you could be so kind to find this. > > With Sincere Thanks > > Anita > > > > > >

Anita The marriage record is probably in the Illinois State Archives. I have a copy of the page the marriage was recorded on for a descendant of mine married in Shelby Co., IL in 1839. I was told this is the only record available. You can get this record by going into this address www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/.html. You will then need to go in to IL Marriages. Once there search for your ancestors names. There is instructions on how to obtain records from the archives and which archive holds Shelby Co. records. Copies of the records in IL archives are $.25, I was billed for the copies and sent them a check. I heard they now have you buy a copy card and deduct any copying fees from it. The instructions to pay are probably there too. I know this is not what you requested but it may be an alternative method to your finding what you need. Sondra Mansfield, TX [email protected] wrote: > --WebTV-Mail-27691-274 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > I live thousands of miles from Shelbyville. > This is why I was asking if there is anyone that would be willing to go > to the Court House to retrieve copies of the Self marriage records for > me. > > --WebTV-Mail-27691-274 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by > storefull-263.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 13 May 2001 > 09:33:54 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 830A318A; > Sun, 13 May 2001 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) > Delivered-To: [email protected] > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by > smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id > 04D9E176; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) > Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id > f4DGUBj30150; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:30:11 -0700 > Resent-Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 09:30:11 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun May 13 09:30:10 2001 > From: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:30:09 EDT > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriage record > Old-To: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1412 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > I found early marriage records in Shelby County by going to Early Illinois > Marriage Records and got the records from Shelbyville, IL. I received 15 > records including my Grandparents. > Bill Kull > > --WebTV-Mail-27691-274--

I found early marriage records in Shelby County by going to Early Illinois Marriage Records and got the records from Shelbyville, IL. I received 15 records including my Grandparents. Bill Kull

And Kentucky and so on. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriage record > Dear Ruth, > Shelby County is in Illinois. > The 1836 date is as close as I have. > Thank you so much for any help you can give. > Anita > > original message > I don't know where Shelby Co is ,I'm In Yellowstone and I would need a > date.Montana Ruth > > > ====================================== > Mail message > From: [email protected] Date: Sat, May 12, 2001, 11:48pm > > Is there someone that could please do a look-up for me out of the > goodness of their heart? > I found where Evin Self married Malinda Douthit in Shelby County but the > transcribed info says date is in question. Was wondering if you could > please look in the county books for this marriage the year may be 1836 > and this might be found on page 36 of book 1 Would be happy to pay for > photo copy and postage if you could be so kind to find this. > With Sincere Thanks > Anita > > >

I don't know where Shelby Co is ,I'm In Yellowstone and I would need a date.Montana Ruth

--WebTV-Mail-27691-274 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I live thousands of miles from Shelbyville. This is why I was asking if there is anyone that would be willing to go to the Court House to retrieve copies of the Self marriage records for me. --WebTV-Mail-27691-274 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by storefull-263.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 830A318A; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 04D9E176; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f4DGUBj30150; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:30:11 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 09:30:11 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun May 13 09:30:10 2001 From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:30:09 EDT Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriage record Old-To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1412 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] I found early marriage records in Shelby County by going to Early Illinois Marriage Records and got the records from Shelbyville, IL. I received 15 records including my Grandparents. Bill Kull --WebTV-Mail-27691-274--

Dear Ruth, Shelby County is in Illinois. The 1836 date is as close as I have. Thank you so much for any help you can give. Anita original message I don't know where Shelby Co is ,I'm In Yellowstone and I would need a date.Montana     Ruth ====================================== Mail message From: [email protected] Date: Sat, May 12, 2001, 11:48pm Is there someone that could please do a look-up for me out of the goodness of their heart? I found where Evin Self married Malinda Douthit in Shelby County but the transcribed info says date is in question. Was wondering if you could please look in the county books for this marriage the year may be 1836 and this might be found on page 36 of book 1 Would be happy to pay for photo copy and postage if you could be so kind to find this. With Sincere Thanks Anita

Shelby is in ILL and if u are in Montana that is a long trip I used to live in Montana DeBorgia Mt now I live in Washington State sorry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriage record > I don't know where Shelby Co is ,I'm In Yellowstone and I would need a > date.Montana Ruth > >

Is there someone that could please do a look-up for me out of the goodness of their heart? I found where Evin Self married Malinda Douthit in Shelby County but the transcribed info says date is in question. Was wondering if you could please look in the county books for this marriage the year may be 1836 and this might be found on page 36 of book 1 Would be happy to pay for photo copy and postage if you could be so kind to find this. With Sincere Thanks Anita

Dick, I have a huge pile of genealogy stuff sitting on my desk and I haven't been able to do much with it. I just started digging through the pile tonight. In answer to your question, Yes, this is the Elizabeth Elder that married Townsend Baker in 1858 in Moultrie County, IL. They moved to Yell County, Arkansas and apparently Elizabeth died there as Townsend married a second time and his son Townsend ended up in Texas near the Oklahoma border. I would love to have any information on your line that you could send me. I will be happy to provide you copies of my stuff as well. Let me know the best medium for exchanging information. I use Family Tree Maker so I can send a file or print it out on paper for you as well. Just let me know. Thanks and sorry for not getting back to you sooner. John Fahland James R Cazier wrote: > John, > Is she the Elizabeth Elder that married Townsend Baker in in 1858 in > Moultrie County, IL? If so, which Baker line are you searching. The > Baker's married into my Cazier line in the 1890s. Charles Fred Baker > married my aunt Dora Alice Cazier in 1894. > Dick Cazier > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Fahland" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Harve Elder > > > Do you have an Elizabeth Elder on your list. She married into my Baker > > line in 1858 in Moultrie County, but I believe she was from Shelby > > County. > > > > John F. > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > Hi List, > > > This is my first time on this list. I am searching for information > on > > > Harve Roscoe ELDER and his wife Clara Henryetta EPPERSON. They are the > > > parents of Harve Randolph ELDER. > > > Harve Randolph was born in Wilson,Carter, OK on aug. 27,1937. He > filed > > > for an SSN # on 10-22-1951 in Cowden, Shellby, IL . SS application > showed a > > > Gen. Del. address. > > > SDI showed two possibilities Harve ELDER B.in1903 D.June 1970. > Clara > > > Elder B. 1905 D. June 1968. Cowden, IL is the last known address for > both. > > > If anyone can confirm them as the parents of Harve Randolph ELDER > it > > > will help with my family tree research. > > > > > > Don Reeves ([email protected] aol.com) > >

Joanie, You suggested I email Shelby County for Summers and Knox information. How long did it take for you to receive a response to your queries? Thanks for you inputs. Edna Pimental