SUCH FOOLISHNESS Everyone CHILL OUT !!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Tortorelli" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] DAR News!! > At 09:45 PM 08/01/2001 , Patricia Oates wrote: > >I was going to libraries before you were hatched. > >Pat Oates > > Really? And when were you hatched? LOL > > I have to apologize Pat, and notice that I am doing it publicly? No excuse > but after 5 years of this online genealogy stuff for USGenWeb (Happy > Anniversary to me) and just enough psychology to be dangerous, my way of > coping is to get it off my chest. All but one other time I first change the > to to myself then I scream in email, then I narrow down my screaming then > delete that email and answer nicely. Yep, I talk to myself and hey, it > works for me most of the time, it would have worked this time too except > family time happened and I forgot to change the to part so now I feel worse > then when I started. > > Fact is my response wasn't to you, about DAR or anything more than this... > I can't reach out and slap these "I found it online so I am a > "genealogist"" ummmm people. Enough said. > > I am sorry Pat > > >At 09:12 PM 8/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >At 05:19 PM 08/01/2001 , Patricia Oates wrote: > > >>It is a good idea to recheck the info the DAR has if you do not want the > > >>wrong ancestor in your line. They have my 3rd GGrandfather as the son of > > >>a man who is not his father. They will just take anything I guess if > > >>someone wants in the DAR. > > >>This was so easy to prove wrong I was able to do it from home with info > > >>gathered from the census & bible records over the internet. > > >>Just check their info if you do not want the wrong person as your ancestor. > > >>Pat Oates > > > > > >Ummm.. Pat, the best idea is to get off your fanny and go to the library > > >before you mouth off. You found whatever on some web site, well guess > > >what? I am my Grandpas Mom and my Grandma is my daughter, and my brother > > >is my Great Aunts kid and some idiot some day is going to say, I found it > > >in a book and someone else typed it into a web page so it is fact. > > > > > >Be the solution, not the problem > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Barry County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/barry.htm > > >Gold Family Association http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gold/ > > > > > >Raising teenagers is a lot like nailing Jello to a tree > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Barry County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/barry.htm > Gold Family Association http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gold/ > > Cousins marrying cousins: A non-branching family tree > >

I''ve been through there many times. Beautiful country and I really miss it. Sharlene At 04:01 PM 8/3/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Mountain Home, about 45 miles from Boise, Mountain Home AFB is 10 miles from >us. Sue from Idaho > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sharlene Miller" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 3:41 PM >Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Voting > > > > Hi Sue, > > > > Your Sue from Idaho caught my attention. I grew up in Moscow Idaho and > > gradutated from the U of I too. Where are you from in Idaho?? > > > > Sharlene > > > > > > At 07:29 PM 8/2/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > >Me again with more questions:} Is there a published voting register for > > >the Tower Hill area say from 1877 to 1888.? If so, are there any Baines > > >in it? Thanks - Sue from Idaho > > > >

At 09:45 PM 08/01/2001 , Patricia Oates wrote: >I was going to libraries before you were hatched. >Pat Oates Really? And when were you hatched? LOL I have to apologize Pat, and notice that I am doing it publicly? No excuse but after 5 years of this online genealogy stuff for USGenWeb (Happy Anniversary to me) and just enough psychology to be dangerous, my way of coping is to get it off my chest. All but one other time I first change the to to myself then I scream in email, then I narrow down my screaming then delete that email and answer nicely. Yep, I talk to myself and hey, it works for me most of the time, it would have worked this time too except family time happened and I forgot to change the to part so now I feel worse then when I started. Fact is my response wasn't to you, about DAR or anything more than this... I can't reach out and slap these "I found it online so I am a "genealogist"" ummmm people. Enough said. I am sorry Pat >At 09:12 PM 8/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >At 05:19 PM 08/01/2001 , Patricia Oates wrote: > >>It is a good idea to recheck the info the DAR has if you do not want the > >>wrong ancestor in your line. They have my 3rd GGrandfather as the son of > >>a man who is not his father. They will just take anything I guess if > >>someone wants in the DAR. > >>This was so easy to prove wrong I was able to do it from home with info > >>gathered from the census & bible records over the internet. > >>Just check their info if you do not want the wrong person as your ancestor. > >>Pat Oates > > > >Ummm.. Pat, the best idea is to get off your fanny and go to the library > >before you mouth off. You found whatever on some web site, well guess > >what? I am my Grandpas Mom and my Grandma is my daughter, and my brother > >is my Great Aunts kid and some idiot some day is going to say, I found it > >in a book and someone else typed it into a web page so it is fact. > > > >Be the solution, not the problem > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Barry County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/barry.htm > >Gold Family Association http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gold/ > > > >Raising teenagers is a lot like nailing Jello to a tree > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/barry.htm Gold Family Association http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gold/ Cousins marrying cousins: A non-branching family tree

Hi Sue, Your Sue from Idaho caught my attention. I grew up in Moscow Idaho and gradutated from the U of I too. Where are you from in Idaho?? Sharlene At 07:29 PM 8/2/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Me again with more questions:} Is there a published voting register for >the Tower Hill area say from 1877 to 1888.? If so, are there any Baines >in it? Thanks - Sue from Idaho

Mountain Home, about 45 miles from Boise, Mountain Home AFB is 10 miles from us. Sue from Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlene Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Voting > Hi Sue, > > Your Sue from Idaho caught my attention. I grew up in Moscow Idaho and > gradutated from the U of I too. Where are you from in Idaho?? > > Sharlene > > > At 07:29 PM 8/2/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >Me again with more questions:} Is there a published voting register for > >the Tower Hill area say from 1877 to 1888.? If so, are there any Baines > >in it? Thanks - Sue from Idaho > >

Just returned from vacation and notice talk of a book "The History of Tower Hill." Where can this be obtained, and does anyone know the cost? My NEIL, JERNIGAN, DONNEL, PUGH, ROYSE, SHULTZ, GROSS, INMAN line is in the Tower Hill area by 1830. LYNN in AZ

Sorry Sharlene I didn't find either Baldwin or Baldens or anything else that was similar. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharlene Miller <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] RE: Baines family > Hi Sue, > > The book "The History of Tower Hill" caught my interest. Would you look > and see if there is anything on Baldwin or Baldens. > > Thanks-- > > Sharlene > > > At 04:08 PM 8/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Sue, > > > >I have "The History of Tower Hill and Vicinity" by Homer Eiler. There are > >ten references to Baines family members in it. If you are interested > >please let me know. > > > >Sue in Oklahoma >

Thanks Ron: I did get the information and yes, she is the one who burned to death. I believe that the man who was her finance, Charles Baines is related to my family. One of the children he had was named Alta, don't know if his wife knew about the tragedy or not. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] cemetery look up > I don't have a Tower Hill Cemetery book, but my wife's grandfather was > related by marriage to a Heady. Isn't Alta the one that burned to death? If > so, she is buried at Knobs Cemetery north of Tower Hill. I know that Scott > Heady is buried in Tower Hill, as I have seen his gravestone. > > Ron Eagan > >

I don't have a Tower Hill Cemetery book, but my wife's grandfather was related by marriage to a Heady. Isn't Alta the one that burned to death? If so, she is buried at Knobs Cemetery north of Tower Hill. I know that Scott Heady is buried in Tower Hill, as I have seen his gravestone. Ron Eagan

Sherry,Thanks so much ,now if you could help me get that book,I know it is 10.00 but I need an address.Thanks Ruth

Me again with more questions:} Is there a published voting register for the Tower Hill area say from 1877 to 1888.? If so, are there any Baines in it? Thanks - Sue from Idaho

Does anyone know if there are any directories available for Shelby Co. from the period 1880-1894? I am especially interested in Big Spring Twp. If they are available, where? Mark Carey [email protected]

Sorry, I don't.

Thanks so much Sherry! I really appreciate this, now I have to figure out why Charley Baines was in the 1880 census if he was suppose to have left for CA right after her funeral! Sue from Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Mazzetti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Alta Heady grave > > Information is from Volume 3 of Boedecker's Shelby County Cemetery books. Page 33. Recorded 1971. > > > > Alta A. dau of A. J. & M. A. Heady > > Died Oct. 28, 1877 > > Aged 19 yrs. 8 mo. 25 ds. > > > > She is in the Methodist Cemetery. Book says, "The Methodist Cemetery is located in Sec. 4, Tower Hill Twp. on the H. S. Barringer farm. It is approximately one mile west and one and one fourth miles north of the Rt. 16 curve north of Tower Hill, or5 one fourth mile south of the Knobbs Church. It is fenced on the sourth, west, and north sides with the road forming the east boundary. It is about the size of two city lots. It is cared for by the township. There were a few unmarked graves." > > > > Note that there were no other Heady names in the cemetery. > > > > SHERRY > > >

Sue, From the Church Directory of the Methodist Episcopal Church Tower Hill Ilinois 1900.: "The Methodist Church in Tower Hill was organized thirty-five years ago. On the evening of the 13th day of May, 1865 the first sermon was preached by Rev. W. J. Boone, from the text: 'There is therfore now no condemnation to them which are in christ Jesus, who walk not after.......' Boone was then traveling the Shelbyville Circuit which consisted of the following fifteen appointments with Tower Hill:--Buck's Castle, Mahoney School House,White's School House, Todd's Point, Rose Bud, Friddley School House, Prairie Bird, Knobs Church, Tower Hill, Robert's School House, Pleasant Valley, torrence School House, Black Log and Rural School House. This was then known as a 'four week's circuit.' The records show that the Circuit paid a salary of $475 and of this amount Tower Hill paid $45. The same year Tower Hill paid $11.50 for Missions. In 1868 Tower Hill Circuit was organized and has grown until the Circuit consisting of but two appointments has a membership of 275. Two church buildings have been built by this Society, the old frame building which a few years ago, was sold to the Christian Church and but recently torn down and the brick building which was built during the pastorate of Rev. J. B. Martin at a cost of about $6,000. " There is a list of pastors and members. There are no Baines or Headys listed. Sue in Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Wood <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] any written histories for the Methodist church in Tower Hill > Has there been a history written about the old Methodist Church in Tower Hill? Also the Presbyterian Church. I believe that Henry K. Baines went to the Methodist Church and his wife (2nd) Susan Baines went to the Presbyterian according to the booklet about Tower Hill. > > Thanks, Sue from Idaho >

Hello there, Do you have a Joseph Ambrose Hendricks in your line??He had a son named Ollie Hendricks born in Illinois in 1900.Joseph is my Ggrandfather...Any help appreciated..Thank's.. Sharon....

Thanks so much for the information on the Methodist Episcopal Church! It helps, just wish they had been listed but then it could be that Alta was the one who went to the Methodist Church and not Charley, in fact she did as I just re-read the information from Tower Hill. IF it is the right Family, Charles married probably in CA and had several children one of which was Alta!! No idea if he ever told his wife that he had been engaged before. This is just getting started. I'm actually looking for George Baines and think he was either an older son or a nephew of Henry K. Also hoping to learn what the K stood for. Sue from Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] any written histories for the Methodist church in Tower Hill > Sue, > > From the Church Directory of the Methodist Episcopal Church Tower Hill > Ilinois 1900.: "The Methodist Church in Tower Hill was organized > thirty-five years ago. On the evening of the 13th day of May, 1865 the > first sermon was preached by Rev. W. J. Boone, from the text: 'There is > therfore now no condemnation to them which are in christ Jesus, who walk not > after.......' Boone was then traveling the Shelbyville Circuit which > consisted of the following fifteen appointments with Tower Hill:--Buck's > Castle, Mahoney School House,White's School House, Todd's Point, Rose Bud, > Friddley School House, Prairie Bird, Knobs Church, Tower Hill, Robert's > School House, Pleasant Valley, torrence School House, Black Log and Rural > School House. This was then known as a 'four week's circuit.' The records > show that the Circuit paid a salary of $475 and of this amount Tower Hill > paid $45. The same year Tower Hill paid $11.50 for Missions. In 1868 Tower > Hill Circuit was organized and has grown until the Circuit consisting of but > two appointments has a membership of 275. > Two church buildings have been built by this Society, the old frame > building which a few years ago, was sold to the Christian Church and but > recently torn down and the brick building which was built during the > pastorate of Rev. J. B. Martin at a cost of about $6,000. " > > There is a list of pastors and members. There are no Baines or Headys > listed. > > Sue in Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Wood <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:27 PM > Subject: [ILSHELBY] any written histories for the Methodist church in Tower > Hill > > > > Has there been a history written about the old Methodist Church in Tower > Hill? Also the Presbyterian Church. I believe that Henry K. Baines went to > the Methodist Church and his wife (2nd) Susan Baines went to the > Presbyterian according to the booklet about Tower Hill. > > > > Thanks, Sue from Idaho > > > >

Sue, I believe Alta Heady is buried at Knobbs cemetery. I'm not sure but I think that the Shelby County Historical and Genealogical Society has a reading for it. Sue in Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Wood <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] cemetery look up > Hi: I got some great information now I have to flesh it out. Does anyone have a cemetery book for the Tower Hill Cemetery? If so is an Alta Heady mentioned or any Heady for the area. Thanks, Sue from Idaho (a lot of Sue's on this list:}). >

Has there been a history written about the old Methodist Church in Tower Hill? Also the Presbyterian Church. I believe that Henry K. Baines went to the Methodist Church and his wife (2nd) Susan Baines went to the Presbyterian according to the booklet about Tower Hill. Thanks, Sue from Idaho

All I need to know if the date of her death. In the Hist. of Tower Hill, it mentions that she died about 1878 when her clothes caught on fire, that her fiancee was Charley Baines and that he left for the Wild west of CA. a few days after her funeral but I found Charles in with his father for the 1880 census so it would help to know when she did die. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] cemetery look up > Sue, I believe Alta Heady is buried at Knobbs cemetery. I'm not sure but I > think that the Shelby County Historical and Genealogical Society has a > reading for it. Sue in Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Wood <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:01 PM > Subject: [ILSHELBY] cemetery look up > > > > Hi: I got some great information now I have to flesh it out. Does anyone > have a cemetery book for the Tower Hill Cemetery? If so is an Alta Heady > mentioned or any Heady for the area. Thanks, Sue from Idaho (a lot of Sue's > on this list:}). > > > >