Susanna, I not sure if you got a response on why people move to the Shelby county area. I'd be interested to hear a good explanation. My ancestors came about 1830, plus or minus. Illinois was admitted as a state in 1818, but it seems only real pioneers would be settling in some place like Shelby county at that time. There were land bounties about 1828 that seem to start the movements. There were still "indian wars" at that time. After the Black War for 1832, there seems to be more stability and I think that encouraged more people to move. Some time around then, they started to move out of the valleys and discovered that prairies were good farm land. One of my ancestors, John Smith, was in his 50s when he moved to Shelby/Moultrie counties. I'm baffled as to why he moved at 50, he should have been well established, more than why he came to Shelby county. Any thoughts? Brian -----Original Message----- From: Susanna Clark-Smith [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILSHELBY] Migration paterns Can someone tell me why people started moving to the Shelby co. area in the 1830's? Was there a particular event? My ancestor, Russell FLETCHER, moved his family there about 1836. Susanna Clark-Smith "Motivation is when your dreams put on work clothes"

Hi, I show the following: 1830 Shelby County, IL census: James Milikin 1M under 5 3M 5-10 1M 10-15 1M 15-20 1M 40-50 1F under 5 3F 15-20 1F40-50 1840 Shelby County, IL census: Not listed Shaunee Power

Hi list, I'm trying to trace just when the James Milliken family moved to Shelby Co. Another researcher told me that they are on the 1830 and 1840 census'. Could someone who has access to these census' please do a lookup for me? thanks, Sherry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

In the 1840 Shelby Co., IL census from the Decatur Genealogical Society, I show on page 2, only a SAMUEL MILLICAN: SAMUEL MILLICAN- 0-0-1-1-4______0-1-0-1-1-0-0-1 I don't have a copy of the 1830 census; believe it's only available on microfilm. This is what is in the 1850 census: #755 GEORGE MILLIKEN-----30-----farming--------1,280------b. TN LAVICA 23-------------------------------b. NC WILLIAM-------------1 mo.----------------------------b. IL #756 JESSA MILLIKEN-------24-----farming-------400--------b. TN ELIZABETH------------25------------------------------b. OH JAMES----------------5 mos.--------------------------b. IL #757 JAMES MILLIKEN-------32------farming-------1,200------b. TN LUCINDA--------------28-------------------------------b. TN MARGARETT------------8--------------------------------b. IL MANERVA--------------6--------------------------------b. IL MARY-----------------1--------------------------------b. IL GEORGE---------------4--------------------------------b. IL ****(this family has been in IL at least 8 yrs.) #812 (listed with the DYE family) REBECKA MILLIKEN-----33--------------------------------b. IL BENJAMIN F.----------8---------------------------------b.IL GEORGE W.------------7---------------------------------b. IL WILLIAM--------------5---------------------------------b. IL #1016 SAMUEL MILLIKEN------33------farming------800----------b. TN JANE-----------------27--------------------------------b. IL WILLIAM--------------5---------------------------------b. IL DAVID----------------3---------------------------------b. IL CHARLS---------------3---------------------------------b. IL HENRY F.-------------4 mos.----------------------------b. IL Hope this helps, Nancy Elam-Kelly >From: "sherry mirkovic" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILSHELBY] 1830-40 census >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:07:25 > >Hi list, I'm trying to trace just when the James Milliken family moved to >Shelby Co. Another researcher told me that they are on the 1830 and 1840 >census'. Could someone who has access to these census' please do a lookup >for me? thanks, Sherry > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Would someone please be willing to look up a death record for Henry K. (K. Henry) Baines, he died in 1888 and was from the Tower Hill District. Thanks, Sue

SHERRY, This is from the printed version of the 1850 census -done by the Decatur Genealogical Society. Flat Branch District, Page 86 Household 757 James MILLIKEN 32M 1,200 Tennessee Lucinda 28F Tennessee Margarett 8F Illinois Manerva 6F Illinois Mary 1F Illinois George 4M Illinois Levisa HEINS 24F Illinois Mary 5/12F Illinois Brothers George and Jesse are households 755 and 756. SHERRY ----- Original Message ----- From: sherry mirkovic <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] 1850 Census > Hi list, does anyone have access to the Shelby Co IL 1850 census? If so, > would you send me the family info on: James Milliken, Knole Dist? > Thanks, Sherry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >

Hi, Did your Jones family,s have a daughter named Elizabeh Jones that married a Robertson? Thank's...

Hi list, does anyone have access to the Shelby Co IL 1850 census? If so, would you send me the family info on: James Milliken, Knole Dist? Thanks, Sherry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi, I am searching the Jones family in Moultrie Co. Lewis R. Jones wife Anna Gates and their children. Is this the Jones family you are searching? Shirley

I have always requested searches by mail but the IRAD site does say they accept requests by telephone so I'd say it is your choice. The phone call might give you an answer faster but then you'd have the long distance charge. Sue

Thanks. I'll get a request off to them tomorrow. Sue from Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] IRAD > I have always requested searches by mail but the IRAD site does say they accept requests by telephone so I'd say it is your choice. The phone call might give you an answer faster but then you'd have the long distance charge. > > Sue > > >

Surnames researching: BLAND HARTLEY WAINSCOTT Thank you Vivian [email protected]

Pat, I'm looking for the David Moore that married my GGgrandmother in around 1854 give or take...Thank's..Sharon..

Which Moores' are you looking for. There are several families, of which Hanford Moore is listed. Pat Loftin ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Beck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Surnames > Researching Shelby County,Illinois Surnames.. > Robertson,Beck,Jones,Moore...Any help appreciated & thank's...Sharon > Robertson Beck.. > >

Researching Shelby County,Illinois Surnames.. Robertson,Beck,Jones,Moore...Any help appreciated & thank's...Sharon Robertson Beck..

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I did what you said, now is it better to call and request look-ups or to write to them? Sue from Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: [ILSHELBY] Illinois Regional Archives Depository System (IRAD) > Dear Sue et al., > > The Ilinois State Archives site: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/archives.html > has searchable data bases for several counties. From that site you can get to IRAD's (Illinois Regional Archives Depository System) or go to: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/irad/iradhome.html > and click on "IRAD Local Government Records Data Base" > Once you are there, "click on: "Search the Local Government Records Data Base" > When you get to the search page simply type in "Shelby" or whatever county you want and click "submit query" > This will show you all of the records available for Shelby or whatever county. > The IRAD site has directions on where and how to order records from them. I've even gotten records from them that the County Clerk told me they didn't have. They do not charge for the searches but only for the copies that they make. > > Sue, the searchable data bases on the Illinois State Archives site is where I got the marriage info for Henry and Susannah " Bains". It is in the "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index" Be sure to try a variety of different spellings when searching this. I actually found "Longwell, Plummer" as "Logenwell, Phimener"!!! > > Happy Searching in Illinois! > Sue in Oklahoma > > > >

Thank you very much for the information on IRAD. It is a very worthwhile website.

Dear Sue et al., The Ilinois State Archives site: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/archives.html has searchable data bases for several counties. From that site you can get to IRAD's (Illinois Regional Archives Depository System) or go to: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/irad/iradhome.html and click on "IRAD Local Government Records Data Base" Once you are there, "click on: "Search the Local Government Records Data Base" When you get to the search page simply type in "Shelby" or whatever county you want and click "submit query" This will show you all of the records available for Shelby or whatever county. The IRAD site has directions on where and how to order records from them. I've even gotten records from them that the County Clerk told me they didn't have. They do not charge for the searches but only for the copies that they make. Sue, the searchable data bases on the Illinois State Archives site is where I got the marriage info for Henry and Susannah " Bains". It is in the "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index" Be sure to try a variety of different spellings when searching this. I actually found "Longwell, Plummer" as "Logenwell, Phimener"!!! Happy Searching in Illinois! Sue in Oklahoma

I don't know how to do this so please let me know!:} Thanks, Sue from Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriages > Sue from Idaho, > > I just looked at your Susannah on the 1900 census. Was I surprised to see > her listed living right next door to my Longwell great grandparents!! I also > noticed that she was born in Pennsylvania as were my > Longwells.........hmmmmmmm. > > Do you know how to search the Illinois Regional Archives Data Bases?? > Illinois has one of the best Regional Archives systems in the country. You > can look at their data bases online and see what records they have available > for each county. Then, you can request searches of these records from the > Archives that holds them. They are very nice, very prompt and bill you for > they copies that they make when they send you the copies!! > Let me know if you want more info. > > Sue in Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Wood <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 8:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriages > > > > No, I don't have anything! Wow, Why was she called Elizabeth in 1870 and > > Susannah in 1880 but I now see that Susannah had a middle initial of E! > > So, I guess what I need now is a death record for his first wife and the > > mother of his children as Susannah put down in 1900 that she had no > children > > dead or alive. Thanks so MUCH. Sue from Idaho > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 6:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILSHELBY] Marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue, Do you have this?? BAINS, K HENRY HUFFMAN, > > > SUSANNAH E SHELBY 10/16/1860 C/ 12 > > > > > > Sue in Oklahoma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Sue Wood <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:16 PM > > > Subject: [ILSHELBY] Marriages > > > > > > > > > > Would someone be willing to look up Baines marriages for me? I think > > that > > > Henry K. or K. Henry Baines might have been married twice, he seemed to > > have > > > gotten to Shelby Co., from Ohio about 1859/1860, his first wife must > have > > > died before the 1860 census. In 1870 he had a wife named Elizabeth and > in > > > 1880 he had a wife named Susannah. He died sometime in 1888. > > > > > > > > I would like to hear from [email protected] as she had tried to send > me > > > death information BUT when I get the files they are empty and are > infected > > > with a virus! So, please don't send me anything Klara as I don't want > to > > > have to reboot my computer again! I feel badly about this and do hope > > that > > > you can find someone to help you clean up your computer!! Sue from > Idaho > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >